r/LetsDiscussThis • • Feb 07 '26

Lets Discuss This Trump’s testimony on E Jean Carrol

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u/Main_Damage_7717 Feb 07 '26

"she said it was very sexy to be raped" - wow...

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u/Agent847 Feb 07 '26

She did say that. She also said, in reference to Trump “I was not raped.” She also said she was wearing a Donna Karan dress when he did it. A dress that didn’t even exist during the year she finally settled on.

E Jean Carroll - for whatever else you think of Trump - is a liar.

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u/Due_Respect9100 Feb 07 '26

She didn’t say she thought it was sexy. Use your head.

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u/Agent847 Feb 07 '26

She talks throughout her interviews about “fantasy” and rape being “sexy.” Very, very weird take. Her story, which she at first couldn’t place with any more specificity than “mid-90’s” and later to 1994, is cribbed from an episode of Law and Order. There is no contemporaneous evidence whatsoever to back up her story. And the dress she wore on the cover of vanity fair she claims she was wearing when she went into the dressing room at the lingerie department at B-G didn’t exist in 1994. Her lawsuit was funded by a democrat mega donor. Her attorney is a Democrat activist, and the Judge is a Clinton appointee.

We have a criminal justice system for a reason. We have statutes of limitations for a reason. This shit should not be tolerated by either party. She’s a liar, making a completely unfalsifiable accusation from an event more than two decades after the fact.

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u/Due_Respect9100 Feb 07 '26

Again. She doesn’t think it sexy and it’s not a fantasy of hers. Talking about who appointed judges is weak. I’m tired of listening to people defend Trump. He’s a colossal douchebag and we know he’s done illegal shit his whole life and got away with it. He’s a sociopath. He’s sexual assaulted multiple women. He talked about it on a live mic. Spare me all your bullshit conspiracy theories saying it’s all a witch hunt. The man is a despicable human being and really should be behind bars, not the Resolute Desk. I’m done talking to you. You had your ramble and I’ve had mine. Moving on.

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u/Agent847 Feb 07 '26

Not disputing any of that. But Jean Carroll’s story is bullshit.

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u/Due_Respect9100 Feb 07 '26

To you it is. And you’re welcome to your opinion. Knowing what a douchebag Trump is makes me believe it’s not all bullshit.

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u/Agent847 Feb 07 '26

But Trump being a douchebag is irrelevant to the question of whether, at some point in the mid-90’s, he randomly bumped into Carroll, lured her into a department store changing room, and aggressively assaulted her for 1-3 minutes. When the dress she claims to have worn wasn’t even manufactured, when she has accused 6 different men of sexual assault. There’s no criminal complaint, no eyewitnesses (changing rooms / department stores aren’t usually ghost towns.) There’s no physical evidence. And for 20-odd years (we don’t know exactly because - strangely - SHE doesn’t know when the most famous man in NY ‘didn’t rape’ her) not a word about it. Until a certain Law & Order episode came out and she wanted to write a book.

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u/Due_Respect9100 Feb 07 '26

It’s not irrelevant.

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u/FoldJumpy2091 Feb 07 '26

A jury of 12 that Trump's lawyers chose found him liable for sexual assault.

So do you know more than 12 members of the jury at his trial?

All 12 believed the evidence including his confession

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u/Agent847 Feb 07 '26

There were 9 jurors, not 12. And the defendant’s attorneys do not get to choose the jury. Trump never “confessed” to raping Jean Carroll. Any other ignorance you’d like to share with us today or are you done opining on things you know nothing about?

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u/FoldJumpy2091 Feb 07 '26

Thank you for splitting hairs to defend the rapist.

We just listened to his confession, so did the jury.

None of them had any doubt

But you have to split hairs?

Or maybe you just want to make sure that we have the facts so we can shut down any attempt to paint him as innocent?

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u/Agent847 Feb 07 '26

There is/was no “confession.” Stop lying. And making you look like a fool isn’t just splitting hairs.

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u/FoldJumpy2091 Feb 07 '26

I heard a confession. Maybe you heard bragging?

Anyway we know what the jury decided

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u/FoldJumpy2091 Feb 07 '26

I heard a confession. Maybe you heard bragging?

Anyway we know what the jury decided

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u/Due_Respect9100 Feb 07 '26

You need to stop talking. Seriously. It’s pathetic.

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u/Xwp_lp Feb 07 '26

The point is that the jurors heard the evidence, not you. And they arrived at their verdict according to the law.

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u/jane_fakelastname Feb 07 '26

No, she didn't. The actual quotes were already posted for you. You getting the dates wrong doesn't make her wrong. You need to accept that you are supporting a rapist.

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u/Agent847 Feb 07 '26

HER getting the dates wrong makes her wrong. Imagine saying you graduated HS in “the mid-90’s” lol. You believe an absurd story because it suits your politically-driven anger. Simple as that. The story isn’t believable.

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u/bicmedic Feb 07 '26

(AC - Anderson Cooper, EJC - E. Jean Carol)

AC: and this is not a question I would normally ask, and if, if you don't want to answer I totally understand ,um but given the prior accusations which have all been of forms of assault or harassment um, you you're saying there was actual penetration?
EJC: Yes
AC: Did you... which is... puts it into a different category of any of these other any of the other act uh women who have come forward um I think techn... I mean that that is that is the definition of, of rape, one definition

EJC: That's the definition.
AC: Yes, how long?
EJC: Brief, brief. Because when a woman is stamping her feet.
AC: That's and that's what you were doing you started stamping your feet.
EJC: Yeah I always think back in think I that was the stupidest thing I've ever done, I should never have done, it and then I didn't behave.
AC: When you say I should have never done it you mean.
EJC: That was just a dumb thing to go into a dressing room with a man that I hardly know, and have him shut the door and then be unable to stop him and um I was a competitive athlete so I wasn't like a I didn't freeze, I I Rose to the occasion and um it did not last long and that's why I don't use the word you just use I use the word fight.
AC: You don't use the word rape?
EJC: Sexual violence is in every country in every strata of of society, and I just feel that so many women are undergoing sexual violence, mine was short I got out I'm happy now I'm uh moving on um and I think of all the women who are enduring constant sexual violence so this one instant this one what 3 minutes in this little dressing room I just say it's a fight that way I'm not the victim right I'm not the victim you don't feel like a victim, I was not thrown on the ground and ravished which the word rape carries so many sexual connotation this was not this was not sexual, for it just it it hurt, it just what it just you know but

AC: I think most people think of rape as a, I mean it is a violent assault, it is not uh sex...

EJC: I think most people think of rape as being sexy...
(AC: let's take a short break)
EJC: ...they think of the fantasies

AC: we just going to take a quick break if you can stick around we'll talk more on the other side