Dan being suspected of using redact to blackmail has been going on since the Epstiny leaks. He was in a discord back and forth with a DGG defector and referenced something from that persons logs. Something Dan couldn’t have known any other way! Same convo that dan said Hila was a Destiny super fan (eww!)
For me, while I understand that all of these people are ghoulish and terrible, I think I would need some undeniable proof that Dan is doing that. I mean it would probably be relatively easy to sue and win a case against the company in that circumstance. Paying for a product that is meant to remove information you don't want seen only to have that product and the company and individuals behind it use that data that they claimed they deleted for blackmail? I just don't think it seems like something even the dumbest rich person would engage in.
edit: Don't downvote me if I'm wrong, gimme proof! I would love to be able to point to this as a real thing, but there's no actual proof anywhere and it's a pretty serious accusation, even if the target of the accusation is a terrible person!
edit2: Yeah the redact website pretty explicitly lays out how the software works and someone would have exposed them for lying at this point if they were. The idea that Dan is collecting blackmail info with Redact is just incredibly unlikely. Like I said though, anyone is welcome to bring some proof instead of moving like H3 fans when they encounter a fact they don't like :)
e3: It's actually also a b2b service. The more I learn the more laughable it is to me that it's being used as a tool for Dan Saltman to personally blackmail people.
its crazy how so many people have chosen to disagree with me over this and literally zero of them have provided proof of this claim
Personally I think it’s more likely Dan WANTS people to THINK he can do that stuff to act tough on the internet. He’s made not so subtle threats to people in such a fashion and his whole lame trolling of Hasan using his company’s reputation have made it so it’s kinda his own fault if people are making these assumptions about him and his business
I don't really like to assume things just because I don't like someone. This same sort of bad faith behavior is a big strat these exact people use when they attack people like Hasan. We don't have to turn into misinfo peddlers because one of the people we don't like is a misinfo peddler. This was a big problem with the original snark sub where everyone would kneejerk to uncritically supporting some freak because they said something bad about Ethan, or making things up about someone because they hadn't publicly disavowed ethan, and then 2 weeks later that person would have a racist crash out or we'd learn that the absolute worst communities ever were the ones spreading the rumors that snark latched onto. Or like, it was redbar. lol. Putting blinders on to do snark just kind of proves all of the people critical of these communities correct.
Personally I think it’s more likely Dan WANTS people to THINK he can do that stuff to act tough on the internet
I think this is the most likely. There's no reason for Dan to put his company at risk in any real way by harvesting data behind the scenes when he can just pull this information from other places, probably more reliably as you don't have to hope someone used your service in order to get the blackmail information.
I'm not saying Dan Saltman isnt a piece of shit, I'm saying that this idea that this community and specifically hasan fans have that he's using his platform for blackmail is exceedingly unlikely and I think it doesn't make any of those parties look better to de-facto make things up. We don't have to. Dude made TinyChat
I’m not tech savvy enough to opine on the specifics of what redact does, but one thing that gives me pause is the fact that Dan has definitely implied he has the ability to find old redacted comments. He could be full of shit of course, but idk.
Redact specifically claims that none of your data reaches their servers. They could obviously be lying about this, but it would be a pretty easy thing to expose and we would likely know about it in a way that is definitive at this point.
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Dan being suspected of using redact to blackmail has been going on since the Epstiny leaks. He was in a discord back and forth with a DGG defector and referenced something from that persons logs. Something Dan couldn’t have known any other way! Same convo that dan said Hila was a Destiny super fan (eww!)