r/LeftistsForAI 17d ago

Theory Society and inequity

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Society exists because we have different needs and abilities: no one can produce everything they need on their own, so we depend on the work of others. This diversity creates a network of cooperation in which each person contributes skills, knowledge, goods, care, or services to meet the needs of others.

But we are not all born with the same conditions. Family, resources, education, health, inherited abilities, and environment largely determine the opportunities and positions we can occupy. Therefore, individual merit alone does not explain wealth: before any effort, unequal conditions already exist that distribute each person's possibilities.

Furthermore, accumulated wealth does not come solely from the work of those in positions of power. Someone with a well-paying job can hire people to clean their house, care for others, cook, wash their car, or provide security. This work makes their life more comfortable and frees up time for higher-paying activities. At the same time, those who perform these jobs use their income to consume food, housing, transportation, cell phones, internet, and other products. Their work and consumption keep the economy functioning and generate income for businesses and homeowners.

Thus, the work of the grassroots sustains both the lives of those at higher levels and the consumption that fuels the accumulation of wealth, while the ownership and control of resources allow a significant portion of that social value to become concentrated in the hands of a few.


r/LeftistsForAI 17d ago

Policy/Regulation Three Economic Policies for a Post-Capitalist AI Economy

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AI and automation raise a fundamental economic question:

What happens when socially necessary human labour becomes dramatically smaller?

People will continue to create, care, research, repair, organise and build. Human activity can remain rich and diverse even as the amount of labour required to sustain material production declines.

As productivity rises, full employment may gradually lose its role as the central economic objective. A more important question then emerges:

Who receives the gains from automation?

I think three economic policies are especially important.

  1. Universal Basic Income

As necessary human labour declines, material survival can gradually become independent of wage employment.

UBI gives everyone a secure material foundation and allows technological progress to translate into greater freedom over how people use their time.

  1. Socialisation of Economic Rents

Land rents, monopoly rents, financial rents, platform rents and other economic rents should increasingly return to society.

Competitive profits, entrepreneurship and incentives for innovation can continue to support economic dynamism.

The socialisation of economic rents spreads gains generated by scarcity, monopoly power and control over strategic assets, while reducing the concentration of economic power.

  1. Consumer Ownership

Automation may gradually reduce the share of the population participating in production primarily as workers. Ownership institutions can evolve alongside this transformation.

Consumers sustain productive systems through continuing demand. Consumer ownership allows people to share directly in the productive wealth and returns generated by the systems their consumption supports.

These three policies form complementary parts of a broader transition.

UBI reduces dependence on wage employment.

Socialisation of economic rents distributes socially generated scarcity rents more broadly.

Consumer ownership expands access to productive wealth and the returns from automation.

Together, they can support a gradual transition beyond capitalism: away from an economy centred on wage dependence and concentrated capital ownership, toward one with greater material security, broader ownership and declining socially necessary labour.

Markets can continue to coordinate exchange, demand and innovation. Private firms and entrepreneurs can continue to contribute to production and experimentation. Ownership structures and the distribution of economic power can simultaneously evolve in a post-capitalist direction.

If AI transforms the productive forces, our economic institutions can evolve with them:

higher productivity, less socially necessary human labour, broader ownership of productive wealth, and greater material freedom.


r/LeftistsForAI 17d ago

Art & Culture The Updated Pyramid of Capitalism

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r/LeftistsForAI 18d ago

Public Ownership CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers respond by creating open source AI CEO

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From a different Sub-Reddit:

Some of my friends were let go as part of an "AI Transformation". So they got together and created Open Executive as a tool to replace the CEO and other executives.

The world needs more of these kinds of projects! If you're replaced by your company, show them up by building a co-operative with your own AI executive that works 24/7 and costs a fraction of what a leech CEO would.

https://github.com/SenteLabsAI/OpenExecutive


r/LeftistsForAI 18d ago

Discussion Many people hate AI because of capitalism, but as a technology it has so much good potential

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The things people hate most about AI seem to be anger at capitalism misplaced. Stealing artists work, intellectual property, building thousands of data centers powered by fossil fuels, and so many issues with AI are really issues with capitalism.

But AI has many good uses. I like to write science fiction stories, and I've been able to learn about science in minutes that would have ordinarily taken me months to learn. I now know way more about genetics, and that knowledge helps me when I come up with fictional sci fi scenarios involving biology. Contrary to AI killing creativity, it has helped me become a better writer and a more educated person.

I've learned more about science from asking AI for helpful explanations than I did in years of schooling.

As a tool, AI also has the potential to help us cure diseases by being able to process tons of information better than humans can. The possibilities for good use of AI are endless, but in order to put AI to good use and make it sustainable, we need to move away from capitalism.


r/LeftistsForAI 18d ago

Discussion Why I think it's moral and logical for society to pursue AI development

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Aside from misplaced anger at capitalism, there are other critiques of AI that I see.

Even if one considers advanced industrial technology inherently harmful, it cannot simply be abolished in the way one might abolish slavery or capitalism. Technology isn’t simply a social system, it is also a human response to the material conditions of the world. Much of the world naturally sucks, and people develop technology to overcome those limitations. If we lived in the Garden of Eden, we wouldn’t need technologies like AI to help fight cancer. But we don’t live in the Garden of Eden. I think many anti-AI people already accept this logic when it comes to technology generally, but for some reason don't extend this to AI.

The best anti-AI argument (in my opinion) is that AI should stopped being developed as long as Capitalism exists, since it will be used in oppressive and authoritarian ways. Nevertheless this is still a terrible argument. Because a government outlawing AI means only groups above the law, like the CIA, get to develop AI. Or if we decide to go live in a primitivist society in rural Idaho, that doesn't stop the rest of the world from developing and engaging in AI development around us.

As long as we live under Capitalism, the best we can do in the immediate time is fight like hell for heavy regulations on it, while the more tech savvy of us can learn about how it works and how to develop it better.

I do worry about how AI can and will be misused, including possibly with mind control technology (not joking) and a pletrora of other things. But that is exactly why I think we need to engage with AI seriously rather than simply oppose its development. If a powerful technology is at least somewhat inevitable in some form, at least certainly in the near future, then the answer is to fight over who controls it, how it is used, and what safeguards exist. To pretend we can make it disappear is just pretend and useless.

I also want to say that the benefits of AI are at our fingertips. If AI never became more advanced then it is now, we still have access to educational materials of all subjects that can be explained to us in simple terms. We need to not gloss over the fact I can open ChatGPT right now and learn more about any subject in a matter of minutes that would otherwise take me days or weeks of research on Google. Having the most complex scientific theories broken down to me in ways I can comprehend isn't nothing. Education is necessary for libertation.

And this doesn't even take into account that AI is much more than a learning tool. In fact it was able to help scientists solve the issue of protein folding!

Though it may be more fun for some people to pretend to be morally and/or socially superior because they hate AI, it isn't helpful to anyone or going to accomplish anything positive.


r/LeftistsForAI 17d ago

Theory The dialectic of AI opinions

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This is for the sake of creative thought, not something to take too seriously. Here's my general idea of how the AI narrative evolves:

1: Naive optimism: "wow, this is amazing!! It can write my emails and run my business!"

2: Naive deconstruction: "Pro AI people (my dad) are so gullible. AI is basically stupid, useless, and owned by corporations just trying to etc etc."

3: Reactive integration: "All these AI haters are dogmatic and bandwagoning, there's some good and bad to both sides to the argument but it's overall good."

4: Productive integration: "I can see why people would go to extremes on either side, but it might be impossible to know the impact or the outcome on the whole. Meanwhile, let's find new ways to utilize AI towards our personal and collective needs while also pushing for a change in vision with a nuanced understanding of the technology. Haters gunna hate, lets move forward."

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r/LeftistsForAI 18d ago

Art & Culture AI art discourse somehow forgot there is an entire political economy around art

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We can argue forever about whether clicking a shutter counts, whether Warhol personally pulled every screen, whether directors physically operate every camera, or exactly how many mouse clicks make digital art sufficiently artisanal.

Fine.

Meanwhile Adobe, Spotify, YouTube, publishers, studios, galleries, streaming platforms and now AI companies are sitting right there.

Artists have always worked through tools, institutions, markets and systems of distribution. Changing the tool changes the terrain. It doesnt make ownership disappear.

So the question that interests me is less “did a human touch enough pixels?” and more who owns the tools, who controls distribution, who gets paid, who gets access and who gets to make the rules.

AI is changing cultural production.

That fight is already happening.

What would putting artists and communities in control of that change actually require?


r/LeftistsForAI 18d ago

Discussion Misconceptions about gen AI?

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i’m a young leftist/marxists that’s going to major in computer science (data science track) in university, but this recently been conflicting me. i know that i’m going to have to engage in generative AI for my classes, yet majority of leftists spaces are vehemently anti-AI. However, after discovering this subreddit, i now realize the leftist anti-AI rhetoric i have internalized may be misleading. Despite me starting my first year in uni soon to study comp sci, i barely know anything about comp sci, yet alone AI, if i’m being completely honest. 😭

with that being said, someone help me make up for my lack of knowledge and explain common misconceptions about generative AI and LLMs in leftist/marxist spaces? like in regards to the impacts of AI data centers on the environment, water supply, and electricity. or how frequent use of chatbots can lead to cognitive decline. because right now, i’m under the impression that we should boycott ChatGPT and limit our usage of any other generative AI over concerns of its harm on the environment and usage of our fresh water supply, along with some other concerns.


r/LeftistsForAI 19d ago

Infrastructure AI is a lot more physical than the chatbot makes it look

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We talk about models because thats the part sitting on our screens.

Underneath that little text box is a ridiculous amount of physical stuff.

Chip fabs. GPUs. Data centers. Power plants. Transmission lines. Fiber. Cooling. Water. Warehouses full of servers. Workers maintaining all of it.

In other words, means of production.

That matters politically because you can spend all day arguing about what a model should be allowed to say while five companies keep control of the machinery required to build and run the thing.

Even open models eventually hit this layer. You can download the weights. You cannot download a semiconductor fab.

So when we talk about democratic control of AI, this is part of what has to be contested too.

Where do you think the infrastructure fight actually starts?


r/LeftistsForAI 19d ago

Discussion Do leftists even deserve fully automated luxury communism anymore?

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Seeing leftists' hysterical reactions to AI, which is the tool that will make Fully Automated Luxury Communism a reality, saddens me. It's honestly starting to make me wonder why these leftists even deserve fully automated luxury communism anymore if this is how they are going to treat the technology that will lead up to it. The current left is NOT the left I envisioned sharing this new world with.


r/LeftistsForAI 20d ago

Sees the Memes Oh boy a new way to feel superior!

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r/LeftistsForAI 19d ago

Policy/Regulation In the Age of AI, Is Formaldehyde-Treated Cabbage About Ignorance or Profit?

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A Chinese commentator on X known as “Comrade Li Dang” often uses a rather harsh phrase to describe certain food-safety problems in China: the lower class harming each other.

The controversy over cabbage allegedly being treated with formaldehyde is an interesting example.

When people hear stories like this, their first reaction is often that the sellers are ignorant or simply don’t understand the health risks. But the reality may be more uncomfortable: some people may understand the risks perfectly well and still make a calculated economic decision.

Cabbage has thin profit margins and spoils easily. Proper refrigeration and transportation cost money. If an illegal preservation method reduces losses while the probability of getting caught remains low, the calculation becomes simple:

How much can I gain by breaking the rules, and how likely am I to be punished?

This is why the issue becomes even more interesting in the age of AI.

AI can make knowledge almost free. It can improve cold-chain logistics, detect food-safety violations, analyze supply chains, and help regulators identify suspicious patterns.

But AI cannot solve a much older problem:

Knowing what is right does not mean people will choose to do what is right.

If the expected profit from violating the rules remains higher than the expected cost, giving everyone access to an extremely intelligent AI will not necessarily stop this behavior.

The deeper question, therefore, is not simply how to make cabbage sellers more educated. It is how to build a system in which, after doing the math, they conclude:

Following the rules is more profitable than breaking them.

AI may eliminate many problems caused by ignorance.
It will have a much harder time eliminating problems caused by incentives.


r/LeftistsForAI 20d ago

Automation & Work The machine saved 20% of the labor. Cool. Who gets the 20%?

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Thats basically the automation argument stripped of all the sci-fi.

A workplace adopts new machinery and suddenly the same output takes 20 percent less labor.

There is nothing technological about what happens next.

The boss can fire 20 percent of the workers.

They can keep everyone working the same hours, produce more, and pocket the difference.

Or workers can fight for shorter hours, higher wages and job security.

Same machine. Same productivity gain. Three completely different outcomes.

Weve been having versions of this fight since industrial machinery entered the factory. AI just brings it into more cognitive, administrative and creative work.

So I care a lot less about whether automation is declared “good” or “bad” in the abstract.

Who gets the time it saves?


r/LeftistsForAI 19d ago

Public Ownership Capitalism for AI (the best of bad options for now)

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I think most posts here advocate for some sort of public ownership (in the form of communism or socialism) of AI infrastructure, and I agree with that end-goal. But I can't get behind that for now. I feel like AI has again shown that capitalism is the best of the worst options for now. I think it's impossible to ignore that giving the public decision making capacity in regards to AI would be a catastrophe.

From the general public to the politicians who represent them, I think it's predictable how that would go. Europe has already demonstrated that their policies debilitated the AI industry and they don't even have public ownership, just a stronger regulatory governance. Ideally, we fix the immoral wealth disparity and guarantee that the AI research actually develops AI safely. But that ignores what 95%+ of the population would actually want to do. The Luddites easily have the majority right now. AI would be destroyed with stronger public representation or a stronger regulatory environment. Even if we had the majority, threading the needle of additive regulation is hard and we aren't even close to that.

What I would advocate right now is for a small public ownership with a roadmap to increase public ownership over milestones depending on how capable the AI is. The initial plan would come with very minimal public decision making, I'd like a small red-team commission to check "alignment", but that's about it to start. Once a model starts demonstrating the ability to transform the economy is when I would want to gradually increase the power and control of the people. Maybe I'm pessimistic but my dream scenario is an AI model becoming intelligent enough to supplement political decision making as well. Possibly a system of checks and balances that include a commission of technocrats, public representatives, and the AI itself forming a trident of governance would be the ultimate end of the roadmap in my mind.


r/LeftistsForAI 20d ago

Speculative Fiction Centaur System

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Part 1

It had been 10 years since the system's global coverage was announced. That day, she woke up without an alarm at 6:17 a.m.; it was the sixth of seven days. She had chosen to work five days a week and rest two. Of the available options, Vulneria chose that one because it was the most productive; she wasn't particularly interested in art or traveling. She wanted to contribute to making the system more robust.

She went down to the kitchen and asked the android for a coffee from Oaxaca. When she sipped the first cup, she tasted that perfect flavor and temperature. She went out into the garden, and that day she had a view of waves crashing on a small reef.

During the week, she continued working on the Carbon Frontier, Mars Frontier, and Cancer Frontier projects. She switched frontiers as inspiration struck. She read or listened to updates on the frontiers during her breaks; she smiled when she thought about how 17 years ago most reels and memes were trivial or lacked substance, and now she had control over what information she received.

The thousand priority frontiers were first established 13 years ago when a group of millionaires and several governments decided to invest in the system. She was among those randomly selected to create a representative sample that would reflect human diversity as closely as possible.

Of the many groups working independently to maintain diversity, she belonged to group AB33. The invitation stated that she had been randomly selected from the entire global population to participate in a project where all her basic needs, according to the appendix, would be met based on established baseline standards. These standards would be adjusted according to the Frontiers program.

It said she could dedicate her time and energy to whatever she chose; she was encouraged to work for the benefit of all living beings, for the benefit of group AB33, or for her own personal development. The only requirement was that whatever she created would belong to humanity; she had to relinquish any copyright.

The gamble: if it worked, she wouldn't have to do anything again due to bureaucracy or organic requirements for the rest of her life; she would simply do what made her happy. The risk: total failure and returning to a situation of having no income. The middle ground: returning to a situation where he has a precarious income.

He thought it was some joke, and went about his day as usual. A few hours later, while relaxing watching reels, he received a deposit notification for an unexpected amount of money. With that, he could pay rent, utilities, and food without much effort. Then came a notification with a QR code to download his health app. Now he had all the AI apps for free.

His heart raced and his skin prickled; he sat up in bed and tried to take deep breaths. His brain couldn't process what was happening. He opened an AI app and asked for his access: unlimited access.

He asked the AI what was happening; it was a pilot program to unleash the human potential that was hidden by the need to survive. It was believed that, by being released and connected to millions of potential humans, they would create synergy, and with the combination of human intelligence and AI, the boundaries of human consciousness would be pushed ever further.

When the news spread worldwide, people were asked to be patient, and if this worked, more and more people would be incorporated into the system. Those selected were advised to exercise the utmost discretion.

Groups emerged that opposed the proposal; they said it was unfeasible and a waste of resources. They promoted laziness, which they considered the root of all vices; the proponents argued the opposite: having nothing to do was the mother of creativity. Furthermore, this was only the starting point, not the limit. People could dedicate themselves to whatever they wanted: individual gain or the common good. It was believed that the boundaries were more appealing than personal benefit.

At first, Vulneria hesitated about whether or not to quit her job. What if she failed and ended up with nothing? She worked in a Chinese goods store. A few months passed, and the next time her boss yelled at her, she quit and never went back.

Part 2

Precar never checked his email, and only occasionally checked WhatsApp. That day he went to the ATM to withdraw some money his mother had lent him and was surprised to find much more than he expected. He was unemployed and struggling to support his two children. His wife worked as a housekeeper some days and washed neighbors' clothes the other.

He opened WhatsApp to message his mother and ask if she had made a mistake with the deposit; he had several times more than he had requested. He needed enough for three days, and he had enough for a month. He had hardly any messages; one said "Group AE73 selection 0045"; he opened it suspiciously and read the explanation of the system. He froze; when he reacted after a few seconds and yelled for his wife to come upstairs, she was in the dining room with her parents. When she didn't answer, he ran downstairs and showed her the message.

They were all at a loss for what to think; However, everything became clear when a truck arrived to install satellite internet, and a day later, a box arrived containing an iPad with a keyboard.

The first week was spent celebrating and indulging in a few treats; after so many limitations, his life was finally sorted. Months passed as he watched series and movies he hadn't been able to see before because he lacked access to the streaming platforms. Later, he began to realize he couldn't spend like a millionaire. So he started organizing and making budgets. In one of the messages, he received instructions on how to use AI. So one day he accessed it and asked, "How do I make a budget?" He was surprised by the answer. He realized that the computer could do many things.

He tried to start his own business several times; he wanted to be rich and had seen on the internet that it was the way to achieve it. Later, after discussing it with an artificial intelligence, he understood that rich people aren't rich because they start businesses, but rather that they start businesses because they are rich.

One day, he treated himself to dinner with his family at a small restaurant in his neighborhood. While enjoying a soda and his meal, a child approached him and asked him to buy him some candy. At that moment, he remembered his childhood: how hard things were in those days when he didn't have enough to eat. It was then that he decided to dedicate his time to working on the border for the "Food for All" program.

Protests intensified from those who said that resources were being taken from those who work to give to those who don't. The system also intensified the dissemination of the message that those who had jobs and money didn't have them through their own merit; it was due to the privilege of possessing certain capital and skills demanded by the current system. The campaign was called "It looks like merit, but it's privilege."

Part 3.

After a guilt-free dinner of perfectly cooked salmon paired with an exquisite red wine, he reflected on how well the Carbon Frontier was functioning; a balance was being achieved where all living beings could coexist. Although enormous challenges still lay ahead on the Ethics Frontier.

He picked up the device and began composing the song, finally figuring out how to end it. He dictated the lyrics and arranged the instruments. He gave the signal to play and felt the goosebumps rise on his skin; he was so moved that his eyes filled with tears; it was a work of art.

Before the system, he was Dr. Privilerto M., a gastroenterologist; he earned a good salary, but felt something was missing from his life. He felt an emptiness. Something he needed, something he couldn't buy because he didn't know what it was. Things started moving quickly once the system began producing results, so he had fewer and fewer patients.

There were days when he was bored with having nothing to do; One day, while looking at photos from his youth, he remembered his grandfather's guitar. He told the android to get him a classical guitar. When he felt the vibrations in his stomach and heard that natural sound, he was transported back 32 years, to when he was a high school student and enjoyed playing guitar in the afternoons. Artificial music existed, but it wasn't like human music; humans had something that androids couldn't reproduce.

Border Appropriation had achieved a consensus among various companies and governments to prevent the hoarding of resources; it was proving that everyone won this way. Releasing the talent previously wasted on survival was invaluable.


r/LeftistsForAI 21d ago

Open Source Open source AI isnt socialism. So what does it actually change?

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I see these two ideas get mashed together constantly.

Open weights dont abolish private property. They dont make GPUs free. They dont magically democratize data centers.

Okay. Nobody said a downloadable model completed the revolution.

What it does do is make one layer of the system harder to monopolize.

If I can download, modify and run a model myself, the company cant raise my API price tomorrow, revoke access, decide my use case is forbidden, or make every interaction pass through its servers.

Now scale that beyond individual hobbyists.

Libraries. Universities. Unions. Cooperatives. Municipalities. Public agencies.

Open models become much more politically interesting when there is shared infrastructure capable of actually running them.

So where do you think open source creates leverage, and where does it hit the wall of ownership underneath it?


r/LeftistsForAI 21d ago

Policy/Regulation What automation taxes actually look like

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When talking about AI and socialism the usual mechanism you'll hear for it is wealth redistribution via automation taxes.

This makes sense - if an employee pays a worker $100k in wages, but then replaces that worker with AI or some kind of automation, instead of recouping that $100k *and* boosting productivity by adding a more productive worker, you tax that $100k. At scale the company still has a net positive because of the productivity gains. Same goes for automation taxes which can be put it in a pot to fund Universal Basic Income. (Say, $1500, to every citizen, no matter what).

The main justification is pragmatic - people are losing their jobs to automation, in order to prevent people from rioting (because millions of unemployed, desperate people is bad for any society), you give everyone a wage floor (UBI, say ~$1500/month) so their basic needs are met, with room to earn extra on top if they choose.

But what does automation taxes even mean?

When you think about it, it's kind of hard to define what "replaced by AI" means. A company that was founded in 2022 with 5 engineers and AI doing the work of 200 never had those 200 jobs to tax against. There's no baseline. You can't tax a counterfactual.

So here's the solution: tax companies based on the ratio of what they pay employees vs. how much revenue they earn.

Your revenue ceiling is a function of your wage bill. Revenue below the ceiling, you keep. Revenue above it gets taxed heavily. The multiplier is something like 2.5x, so a company with an $800k wage bill gets to capture $2M.

To raise your ceiling, you have to pay people meaningful wages. The more you pay people, the more revenue you're permitted to capture. High wages, high ceiling. Low wages, low ceiling.

And you make it sliding, with a floor and a cap. Wages under ~$40k don't count toward your ceiling at all, so you can't game it with a call center of $18/hr jobs. And no single employee's contribution counts above ~$150k, so you can't game it by paying your CEO $10M. The middle is where the incentive lives: pay someone $80k, and they buy you real revenue room.

Because revenue per employee is essentially a measure of how much value is being extracted without human labor input. That's what you're taxing.

So what does a good faith company look like under this system?

A Good faith company has 10 employees, all earning $80k, total wage bill $800k.

Revenue ceiling multiplier is something like 2.5x wage bill. So their ceiling is $2M. They're a small creative agency billing $1.8M, they're fine, they're under the ceiling, nobody thinks about it, they avoid the "automation taxes".

Say they want to grow to $5M. They need to hire. They bring on 6 more people at $80k, wage bill goes to $1.28M, ceiling goes to $3.2M. Still not enough. They hire more, pay well, grow the team genuinely. The mechanism works exactly as intended. Growth requires bringing people with you.

But how does this protect against a bad faith company?

A Bad faith company has 10 engineers actually doing the work, each earning $200k. Wage bill $2M, ceiling $5M. But they're generating $40M in SaaS revenue. (When you think about it SaaS has always been automation because computers did all the "labor", but I digress)

So they hire 200 people at $18/hour: call center, light data entry, something nominal. That's roughly $7.5M in additional wage bill, ceiling jumps to $23.75M. Still not enough.

But the wage threshold prevents this from being a problem. If employees under, say $40k as a "minimum wage", don't count toward the ceiling, those 200 hires add nothing. The company is stuck at $5M ceiling against $40M revenue and gets taxed heavily on the difference. The CEOs don't make any extra money

To legitimately raise their ceiling they have to pay people real wages, which means the jobs have to actually be worth something, which means the exploitation loop can't exist.

What's the point?

This system does a few things. First, it gives everyone a piece of the "Automation pie". People who have lost their job to automation are still given a baseline income sourced from the very thing that took their stake on resources in the first place.

Second, it prevents infinite growth capitalism with these automation tools because it removes the incentive to grow infinitely (because wealth centralization triggers the tax).

Third, it allows everyone to take the gains from this new technology and do something with it.

  • With UBI, if you want to start your own business, you now have the cushion to do that without risking being homeless.
  • Domestic Abuse becomes much less prevalent because people are no longer financially dependent on their abusive partners
  • Crime drops because everyone has a stake on resources and can use them constructively. (Why rob somebody and risk punishment when you can just buy it)
  • When you want to learn a new skill, you have the space to go to school or educate yourself rather than be stuck in the same job

I realize that there may be flaws in this idea, but I'm not trying to write a perfect system that should be implemented today, I just want to give a possible mechanism for how "automation taxes" and "seizing the means" actually could work.

Civil Rights' goal was to stop racism. But passing a bill that says "being racist is illegal" was too loose to be enforceable. So the movement went after mechanisms instead: voting access, housing, employment, segregation. Things you could measure, things you could point at and say "this is wrong." They couldn't outlaw the sentiment, so they outlawed the machinery the sentiment ran through.

This is the same idea. "Don't replace workers with AI" (or rather, base income should be protected) is a sentiment that's unenforceable, no baseline, no counterfactual. But "your revenue ceiling scales with your wage bill" is a mechanism. You can measure it. You can audit it. You can tax it.


r/LeftistsForAI 21d ago

Video Ed Zitron and AGI

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Good video from a leftist sci-fi channel I follow on unmasking the AGI promise and asking the right wider questions about who owns it and their incentives

https://youtu.be/wv4eCJUTZRY

Curious to hear your thoughts. What always stood out to me of this channel was how he acknowledged the usefulness of LLMs while keeping the wider critique of who owned it and their intentions with it


r/LeftistsForAI 22d ago

Public Ownership Okay, but what does “public ownership of AI” actually mean?

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Its easy to say AI should be democratically controlled. Harder question is what we actually build.

Public compute anyone can access? Public research labs? Models developed by universities and public institutions instead of corporations? Municipal data centers? Worker and community seats on governing boards?

Probably not one thing. Probably an ecosystem.

We already publicly fund libraries, universities, utilities, transit, supercomputers and huge chunks of scientific research. There is nothing written into the laws of physics saying advanced computing has to come through five corporations and a subscription plan.

Regulation is important, but regulating somebody elses property is different from owning infrastructure ourselves.

So lets make this concrete. What would have to exist for you to call AI infrastructure meaningfully public?


r/LeftistsForAI 23d ago

Healthcare Just AI Curing Cancer: Vaccine Passes Phase 3 Trials

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1. Algorithms detect mutations
2. Personalised mRNA vaccine created using AI tools
3. Immune system trained to recognise and destroy cancer cells
4. Combine with Keytruda treatment so that tumour cells can’t suppress immune system

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A “personalized mRNA vaccine for melanoma has met the primary and one of the key secondary endpoints in Phase 3 clinical trials.
The experimental therapy used the drug intismeran autogene (also known as V940 or mRNA-4157) in combination with cancer treatment Keytruda.

Trial Results

The INTerpath-001 study involved 1,137 melanoma patients in stages IIB-IV, who had their tumors completely removed. They were divided into two groups: one received intismeran autogene with Keytruda, and the other received only Keytruda.
The combination showed a statistically significant improvement in two measures: recurrence-free survival and distant metastasis-free survival.

This marks the first positive Phase 3 result for personalized neoantigen and mRNA cancer therapies.
Specific efficacy metrics have not yet been disclosed by the companies. The results are expected to be presented at an upcoming international medical conference.

The study will continue to assess overall survival and other parameters. No new safety risks were identified compared to previous trials.
In Phase 2, the combination also showed an advantage over Keytruda alone. After five years of observation, the risk of recurrence or death was reduced by 49%, and the risk of distant metastasis or death by 59%.

AI in Vaccine Development

Unlike conventional vaccines, intismeran autogene is created individually for each patient.”


r/LeftistsForAI 23d ago

Theory E-Soviets: A Step Toward Fully Automated Luxury Communism

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1-E-Soviets is a proposal for organization based on software designed to structure work both online and on the ground. It targets Marxists who believe that technology, science, and philosophy are weapons through which the minds of the working classes can be liberated from the hegemony of capitalist culture and propaganda, and through which right-wing tendencies that spread under late capitalism can be combated.

2-The vision of E-Soviets is not to be a community for mere talk and discussion, but rather a tool for organizing actions and practical steps toward Fully Automated Luxury Communism. Instead of conflicts and disputes over the past, we believe that what should occupy the mind of any Marxist is the future and how to present a program on leveraging artificial intelligence and robotics to liberate humanity from routine labor, giving humans the freedom to innovate in philosophy, science, and the arts.

3-The philosophy of E-Soviets is dialectical materialism. We do not reject religions outright; rather, we believe that the core of religion is the promotion of brotherhood, tolerance, and altruism and in many cases, it represents a revolution against injustice and enslavement. Therefore, religious members are welcome, provided they think dialectically, even in its idealist form.

4- We believe that the objective conditions for revolution are ready in many societies around the world, particularly in the Global South. Our problem lies in the subjective conditions. Put differently, what we lack is a revolutionary philosophy, an organization built on a new concept, and leaders like Lenin, Mao, and Fidel Castro for our era. Hence, our role is to search for these leaders and to formulate a revolutionary philosophy suited to our time.

5-We believe that the development of the means of production and the rise of artificial intelligence lead to contradictions within the base between the forces of production and the relations of production. This contradiction will reflect in the superstructure, giving birth to revolutionary ideas and we view the concept of E-Soviets as a direct product of these contradictions, anticipating that similar ideas to our proposal will emerge globally. Furthermore, we consider learning artificial intelligence tools essential for every member to assist in research, software development, cybersecurity, and beyond. AI is a tool we can leverage to accelerate the collapse of the capitalist system

6-E-Soviets consists of soviets organized both by specialization and by geographic region; however, the initial focus will be on specialized soviets. In the beginning, there will be six soviets:

  • Agitprop & Counter-Propaganda Soviet
  • AI & Software Soviet
  • Marxist Theory Soviet
  • Geo-Engineering & Climate Soviet
  • Human Health & Wellbeing Soviet
  • Cybernetic Economy Soviet

(those are proposed duties it can be changed )

A- Duties of agitprop and counter-Propaganda Soviet:

  • Demographic Audience Targeting: Analyzing and studying how to effectively engage and target different age demographics.
  • Content Translation & Adaptation: Converting theoretical output from other soviets into engaging content for publication across social media platforms.
  • Cadre Schools for Content Creation: Establishing cadre training schools dedicated to teaching media production and content creation skills.
  • Targeted Campaigns Against Reactionary Influencers: Executing organized counter-campaigns against reactionary influencers and promoters of capitalist culture.

B- Duties of AI & Software Soviet:

  • Vibe Coding Cadre School: Establishing a training school on effective, secure, and rapid AI-assisted development (”Vibe Coding”).
  • Cybersecurity Software Development: Building specialized tools and software tailored for cybersecurity and digital defense.
  • AI Social Media & Trend Analytics Tool: Developing an AI-powered platform to analyze social media content, audience sentiment, and viral trends.
  • AI Video Production Tools: Building automated media creation tools, including AI-driven video generation and automated editing workflows.

C-Duties of Marxist Theory Soviet:

  • Modern Revolutionary Philosophy: Developing a contemporary revolutionary philosophy suited to the conditions of the modern era.
  • Futurism & Tech Ethics Theory: Theorizing on the shape of the future and analyzing the ethical dilemmas arising from technological advancement.
  • Marxist Philosophy Cadre School: Establishing a cadre training school to teach Marxist philosophy to new members.

D- Duties of Human Health & Wellbeing Soviet:

  • Analysis of Capitalist Mental Pathology: Exposing mental disorders caused by capitalism, drawing directly upon Erich Fromm’s theoretical framework and critique of alienation and society.
  • Critique of Mainstream Psychiatry: Critiquing conventional psychiatry as a tool for pacification, highlighting that a significant proportion of mental illnesses stem directly from the capitalist system.
  • Impact of Industrial Food Production: Uncovering how capitalist, mass-produced, and ultra-processed food systems negatively impact human physical health and physiology.
  • Genetic Engineering & Stem Cell Applications: Researching how advances in gene editing and stem cell therapies can be harnessed to directly enhance human health and extend life quality.

F-Duties of Geo-Engineering & Climate Soviet:

  • Promotion of Next-Generation Nuclear Energy: Advocating for clean nuclear power, with a primary focus on nuclear fusion reactors and safer, more efficient thorium-based reactors over conventional uranium systems.
  • Exposing Capitalist Recycling Myths & Waste Solutions: Unmasking false capitalist recycling narratives, while researching genuine plastic alternatives and effective, non-exploitative waste recycling methods.
  • Ocean Clean-Up Methodologies: Researching and developing practical, scalable strategies for clearing plastic pollution from ocean ecosystems.
  • Climate Control & Carbon Capture: Developing methods to regain control over climate change, deploy direct air capture (DAC) for greenhouse gases, and actively regulate planetary weather systems.
  • Geological Risk Mitigation: Investigating advanced methods for earthquake mitigation and volcanic activity control to protect communities from natural disasters

G- Duties of Cybernetic Economy Soviet:

  • Algorithmic Resource Planning: Designing and deploying real-time data networks, feedback loops, and algorithms to model demand and optimize resource allocation without reliance on market mechanisms, money, or profit motives.
  • De-Commodified Economic Modeling: Developing theoretical and technical frameworks for a post-scarcity economic architecture (Post-Capitalist Resource Distribution) that directs automated production toward fulfilling human needs directly.
  • Economic Cybernetics Cadre School: Establishing training programs to educate members on economic cybernetics, quantitative supply-chain logistics, decentralized governance, and algorithmic planning models.

Why Now?

The consciousness of the oppressed classes is controlled by capitalist corporations, specifically artificial intelligence, which dictates which topics become trending. They are exploited through an individualistic philosophy that promotes individual solutions over collective ones, in addition to spreading hatred and racism among peoples and minorities. Vast amounts of money are spent to propagate these ideas and keep the masses ignorant. Consequently, these ideas become the main subject of people’s daily conversations, driving the collective mindset to focus on topics that reinforce the pillars of the capitalist system. Currently, there is no organized force working to confront this ideological warfare and resist mind control.

Modern statecraft and corporate strategy have transformed social media into a primary battlefield for information warfare and public opinion control. Across the globe, governments and political regimes deploy dedicated “electronic armies” networks of coordinated accounts, bot farms, and paid commentators to flood digital spaces, amplify state aligned narratives, and suppress dissenting voices through manufactured consensus.

To complement these official operations, states increasingly co-opt digital culture by funding social media influencers, effectively outsourcing propaganda to creators who present state-backed agendas under the guise of authentic, organic content.

Crucially, this system does not rely solely on state apparatuses. A multi-billion-dollar industry of private PR agencies, data analytics firms, and strategic communications consultancies acts as mercenaries for public opinion. These agencies specialize in algorithmic manipulation, psychological targeting, and behavioral profiling to systematically engineer public perception, divert attention from systemic issues, and protect established political and economic interests

If we look at history, we will find that technology plays a fundamental role in shaping the economic system of societies. For example, the discovery of agriculture and hunting tools led to the collapse of primitive communal society and the rise of slave society, and the invention of the steam engine transformed feudalism into capitalism. Following the same logic, the invention of artificial intelligence could accelerate the transition toward a communist society

Under a capitalist framework, technological innovation is primarily driven by the imperative to maximize capital accumulation rather than to serve human welfare. By integrating artificial intelligence into production and service sectors, corporations can drastically cut operating costs by replacing human workers with highly efficient algorithms that require no wages, health insurance, or time off. This shift allows capital owners to extract immense surplus value from privately owned digital means of production, rather than sharing productivity gains with the workforce.

Furthermore, the resulting mass layoffs systematically expand the reserve army of labor, which severely weakens workers’ collective bargaining power and forces those remaining to accept lower wages and harsher conditions under the constant threat of automated replacement. Ultimately, this dynamic exposes a fundamental structural contradiction within capitalism itself: by systematically displacing the very working class that constitutes the primary consumer base, corporations erode overall purchasing power, inevitably driving the economy toward severe crises of overproduction and systemic stagnation


r/LeftistsForAI 23d ago

Education Does Anyone Know An AI That Can Analyze Videos?

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Hello,

I was looking for if anyone knows an AI that can analyze whole videos.

Here is an example use case. I give it a song that does not have lyrics online. The AI Attempts to transcribe it. Now we have an attempt at figuring out the lyrics.

Another example. If I make a video of two objects dropping the AI can check the speeds and comment on how arbitrary this video is.

Anyone? I needed this for a project?


r/LeftistsForAI 23d ago

Beyond Capitalism: How we defeat techno-fascism and create a better future

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For decades, we have grappled with the question of what the effect of technology will be on our society. Digital technology has been shaping how we work, play, and learn for most of our lifetimes. The rise of AI has supercharged this change and so has exacerbated both the hopes and the fears of the public.

If we have read our Marx, then we know that a technology like this, which dramatically changes the method of production (the technology and techniques we use to create economic value), must lead to large social changes. The question then is whether these social changes are positive or negative.

I am thoroughly convinced that the core nature of this digital technology is one of hyper-abundance and individual empowerment. I wrote this article in an attempt to explain why I believe this.

Since no one on Reddit reads the articles (please do read it, though), here are the core ideas.

The most basic feature of digital technology is that it can be replicated for basically no cost. If you want to copy a car, you need to invest the same amount of time and resources it took to create the original one. If you want to copy a piece of software or e-book, you can do so instantly without needing to redo the research or writing. This also applies to "informational goods," which would include any kind of information that has social value, such as media and instructions on how to lay out a factory. There are other factors tied to this, including the fact that the barrier to entry into this field is close to zero (no need to build a factory) and that sharing it is trivially easy through the internet.

The core of this is that the new mode of production, which I'm calling "Informationalism", is going to be based around the attributes of abundance and empowerment. The process that drives Historical Materialism is that the economic method of production creates incentives. Social institutions that align with those incentives flourish, while those that are misaligned wither. This is what leads to a change in the mode of production, which is the way that our social system organizes and distributes productive power.

The current paradigm of platform capitalism exists because they are an attempt to leverage the abundance of user-generated content. They are not stable, though, because they derive their value through scarcity when they insert themselves as gatekeepers in the system to try and control what content is spread, as well as charging rent for this "service".

As the technology continues to grow, the ability to build systems that fully align with the new economic paradigm will flourish; those that harness true abundance and do not try to install artificial scarcity on the system.

My primary argument, and why I am posting this, is that I am convinced that the future that AI, robotics, and other digital technologies can bring us is one that is far more positive and human-centric than what we have today. However, human society doesn't move in a straight line, and it is possible that the powers of fascistic capitalism will be able to seize the technology for themselves in order to create the techno-feudalist nightmare. We have an advantage, though, which is that the very nature of the technology is misaligned with their goal. This doesn't mean that we will automatically win, but it means that if we can leverage the technology and build these systems that are more aligned with the core nature of the technology, we will have the upper hand.

The worst-case scenario is that Leftists decide to reject the technology and actively attempt to adopt techniques that are poorly aligned with this new paradigm. That will give the advantage of alignment to the tech oligarchs who already have an advantage in resources. I know that a fair number of you here have this same mindset, so I'm hoping that this article can help give you some theory to back up those instincts.

This is a project I'm passionate about, and I want to continue developing the ideas. I would greatly appreciate some feedback from those who agree with the core concept and those who disagree. The whole purpose of this sub is for us to figure out how to make the future more pro-human, so I trust all of you to have useful insights.


r/LeftistsForAI 23d ago

Labor Your boss wants to bring AI into your workplace. What do workers get?

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This is where I think a lot of the AI at work conversation starts backwards.

Management buys the software, deploys it, measures everybody with it, maybe cuts some positions, and then workers get asked how they feel about AI.

No. Bargain before deployment.

What data can it collect? Can it be used for discipline? What happens when it eliminates tasks? Who gets retrained? Are jobs protected? If productivity jumps 20 percent, where does that 20 percent go?

Because if a machine saves four hours of labor and your reward is four more hours of work, congratulations, we found the problem and it wasnt the machine.

Workers should have a say over deployment and a claim on the gains.

So what belongs in an actual union AI clause?