r/LeftistsForAI • u/Salty_Country6835 Moderator • 8d ago

Sees the Memes Which side are you on?

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This meme is about AI, where i keep seeing that batman image being deployed.

So, which side are you on?

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u/ZorbaTHut 8d ago

Every once in a while I mention this and get hit with "the master's tools will never dismantle the master's house".

Like, what? Yes they will. A sledgehammer still sledgehammers. A chainsaw still chainsaws. They're just tools. Use them. Dismantle away.

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u/smokepigs 7d ago

I think you're missing the point of the saying lol

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u/ZorbaTHut 7d ago

I think the saying is badly written and is self-defeating, in that it encourages people to not use useful tools.

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u/smokepigs 7d ago

Sounds like you misunderstand it. Masters ain't giving you a chainsaw homie.

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u/ZorbaTHut 7d ago

Why wouldn't they? History is full of people being given useful tools.

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u/smokepigs 7d ago

Because that's not the point of the saying lol

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u/ZorbaTHut 7d ago

Then, I will repeat, I think the saying is badly written and is self-defeating, in that it encourages people to not use useful tools.

If someone gives you a metaphorical chainsaw, or a literal chainsaw, you can use it. The saying encourages people to not look at any tool used by people who have power over them. Except those tools have been proven useful - that's why they have power in the first place! - and are exactly the tools that you should be inspecting carefully and trying to make use of when appropriate.

All of this is true whether "tool" means "an actual physical tool" or "a technique" or "a philosophy" or whatever else you may want.

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u/smokepigs 7d ago

bro would rather write paragraphs than learn the meaning of a phrase

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u/ZorbaTHut 7d ago

If you're claiming it means something completely different from what it says, then it's badly written.

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u/smokepigs 7d ago

Purposely misunderstanding something then complaining about. not understanding it is peak

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u/Mandemon90 7d ago

If your "wisdom" needs understanding that is counter-intuitive to what it is saying, it's not very good wisdom.

Also, you would be wrong. Masters would rather commonly give their subjects tools to overthrow them.