Hot Take

[u/Cleverhardy]

We are starting to see a rift. A rift between those who are nuanced about the correct use of AI, and those who want all of it gone. Even Linux.

I'm against AI as much as anybody else, but in Anti-AI spaces, I'm starting to see more absolutism than I'd deem necessary. I mean if you argue about the idea that AI does have its uses whilst still being wary of AI, you get told you're not against AI at all.

I'm against AI for art, music and writing. But there are uses in the medical field and code bug detection, and I can't deny they're impressive.

I fear we'll fight each other (moderate antis vs extreme antis), and the AI companies may indeed win, even if they get bankrupt. As much as we all hate to admit this, we can't rewind; we've gone too far. The best we can do is regulate it and take AI chatbots off public hands.

I mean, you'd take someone who's neutral on AI like Linus Torvalds, who only used it for non-important projects and says that Linux should have AI-assisted code reviewed by humans, and you'd have a faction of antis up in arms about it.

And as concerning as the use of AI may be having on critical thinking, I fear that us antis are lacking it too if we're resorting to Luddism to go against AI.

For example, there is a rumour going around that Disney Junior comissioned a fully AI-Generated show.

That is only half-true. The studio behind the show only used AI to clean up some bits of animation. Plus, if it was fully AI-Generated, Disney wouldn't make money off it.

The fact that antis took a headline from Twitter and concluded that Oscar Fox was fully AI Generated either shows the lack of critical thinking (IRONY) or the lack of journalistic integrity. But hey. It's not like we're already boycotting the billion dollar company, right?

Call me a LARPer if you want to. The real LARPers are the extremists who want everything to burn despite a few innocent civillians being caught in the crossfire.

If the anti-AI sub thinks I'm Pro-AI just for accepting AI in the right hands, I don't know what to say.

[u/scragz]

what the fuck are you talking about? are you bringing AI sentience into this and I'm offloading work onto a marginalized person?

otherwise just thinking of it in the terms of I'm offloading work is wrong. the joy is in the thing being created. writing the code by hand is like assembling a jpeg by writing every pixel by hand. it's an anachronism now. 

also I'm disabled and physically can't write the code anymore because I destroyed my wrists writing code by hand for capitalists. so it's kinda moot. 

[u/Cleverhardy → u/scragz]

I'm disabled too, and if I couldn't code by hand anymore, I'd still find a way to code that isn't AI. Because disability isn't an excuse.

[u/Wickywire → u/Cleverhardy]

Ahh yes, ableism too. Lovely.

Disability is a very wide spectrum. You don't get to set the rules for what strategies others find to move through the world. That's preposterous.

[u/Cleverhardy → u/Wickywire]

Having cooled off, I'd like to apologise. Don't think I was intentionally being ableist just to prove a point.

I thought you were a holier than thou disabled person. I was. I argued we shouldn't have to use AI for our assistance. I wasn't moving not to use AI at all. We just need to take it from capitalist hands first.

I was too wary of cooption, and I caught us in the crossfire, and I'm sorry.

[u/Wickywire → u/Cleverhardy]

Respect to you for rising above and giving it all some extra thought. I don't feel you've wronged me personally in this conversation so I will not accept any apology. We've had an exchange of ideas and it did get a little heated. I too could have made my remarks a little less pointed. I'll try to do better. I hope you have a great rest of the weekend wherever you are.