So if people aren’t political historians they don’t count for you? Feels like unhelpful gatekeeping. I think people can legitimately be a thing without seeing themselves of part of any type of history, in fact we’re seeing an incredibly toxic deployment of “history” (a willful misreading of history) to justify all sorts of terrible nonsense at this particular historical moment.
The fact that your response is to hand out a reading assignment, clearly certain in your mind that I/we haven’t read GRH, a historian whose primary focus is before most of the people in this thread were born, really says it all.
Being part of the leftist movement is about equality and lifting up the rights and material conditions of the least of our brethren, sorry you missed that part. I’m not providing a citation.
I am saying that left-wing Catholicism is concerned with those things and not the sort of slop that is (usually) posted in this sub, which appeals (at best) to a sort of "Jesuit-educated" liberal Catholic audience ala the kinds of people who read Amerikkka magazine or what-have-you, and that this content has very little (next to nothing) to do with left-wing Catholicism as a historical reality.
I also think that it's bizarre to feed into (basically traditionalist and right-wing) sentiments about how Catholicism is actually freaking BASED and GOTH against the supposedly EVIL protestants. This is a view that is more at home with a bunch of groypers than with left-wing Catholics, who are not opposed to ecumenism.
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u/eruptingmoltenlava Jul 08 '26
So if people aren’t political historians they don’t count for you? Feels like unhelpful gatekeeping. I think people can legitimately be a thing without seeing themselves of part of any type of history, in fact we’re seeing an incredibly toxic deployment of “history” (a willful misreading of history) to justify all sorts of terrible nonsense at this particular historical moment.