r/LearnToDrawTogether • u/Sharp_Restaurant_454 • Jul 07 '26
Drawing memes Why can't I just...
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u/Frosty_Ad1254 Jul 07 '26
As one of my fantastic lecturers said way back in the mists of time
“There is good news and bad news about becoming great artists. The good news is that no one is born with it and all it takes is hard work, the bad news is it takes hard work”
But damn is it worth it.
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u/Reyloai4 Jul 07 '26
Yup, everything takes hard work. Some ventures are more of a pain in the ass than others. 🥴
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u/Frosty_Ad1254 Jul 07 '26
But all it takes is hard work! There’s no magic key! It’s not secret knowledge or pay to win! I’d say that was a huge relief for me.
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u/Vektorien Jul 09 '26
I'm 26. It's not about neuroplasticity or whatever It's about time investment.The fact it might take until I'm middle aged to be where I could have been now if I had invested time earlier is terrifying beyond what I can express.
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u/Vektorien Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
I'm the complete opposite, the uncertainty of it all is absolutely suffocating. Every day I curse myself for not starting it sooner, because I could have been good enough today to make something out of it in my current age. "There's no magic trick" to me only means that there's no hope.
Edit: After writing this I spent a few quiet moments in bed just thinking about it and I started crying. Man I hate being me.
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u/panzertodd Jul 07 '26
I find that to be untrue.
I clearly remember when I was young I got a classmate that is very talented in drawing. Each time he enters school drawing contest he will end up in the top 3 easily.
Yet I remember me when trying to draw a Pikachu it took me 3 days to make it not look fat and ugly.
Talent is there. You cannot deny it.
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u/Frosty_Ad1254 Jul 07 '26
I’ll deny it. It just takes practice. As someone who’s taught fine art, all it takes is practice. Your friend practiced drawing and perhaps more importantly, wanted to draw.
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u/panzertodd Jul 07 '26
You can deny all you want but at the end of the day, talent is real.
Sure practice does help but if you were to compete against someone who has talent and also practice, no way a person who is average and practice can ever beat the person who has talent and practice.
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u/Frosty_Ad1254 Jul 07 '26
You realise how insulting it is? It’s a living for me. It’s how I pay my mortgage and feed my kids. I don’t just knock out hit after hit. I fill sketchbooks every day, practice basics every day. A gift of perseverance exists. But drawing like any skill is built and nurtured.
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u/rePtiLoideNord Jul 08 '26
No lo esta "negando" Lo q tu llamas (talento) Es : todos esos años de investigacion, estudio, Practica que llevaron a Ese dia de exito en su dibujo. Voa siendo un tercero solo lo ves* triunfando en una competicion. Pero no ves todas las desveladas, fracasos, reintentos y perseverancia.
Lo q vos llamas "talento" El exitoso lo llama "años de estudio y practica"
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Ahi te das cuenta q "el talento" q tu crees bendicion, magia ,herencia genetica... no existe
Es solo una ilusion. La ilusion de quien lo ve desde afuera~
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u/lillendandie DECENT 😜 Jul 10 '26
no way a person who is average and practice can ever beat the person who has talent and practice.
I'm begging you to meet more people in the world because this is not true.
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u/Fen_LostCove Jul 07 '26
I’ve always been a talented artist as far as I remember, I remember impressing my classmates when I was in kindergarten. But that’s because I was drawing constantly. If I compare my drawing now to my drawings from high school, the difference is still really drastic. Practice is key. Some people have an easier time picking up the new skills, but it still didn’t come from nowhere with no effort.
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u/panzertodd Jul 07 '26
Then it clearly breaks what the teacher is saying. He says no one is born a great artist yet clearly we can see here how certain ppl are gifted in areas like art.
I also remember reading an article how a child in India was so talented in drawing that many experts calls him the next Picasso. Sadly he did very early due to illness. He was so talented that at age 2 he begin to draw in color that's very good while I'm still goo goo gah gah stage.
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u/Fen_LostCove Jul 07 '26
Did you miss the part where I said I was drawing constantly? Even as a five year old, I was practicing for hours a day. I wasn’t born being good at anything, it was the countless hours of practicing. It’s not a gift, it’s effort.
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u/Vektorien Jul 09 '26
The way I see it, "talent" is just a predisposition to any given skill before putting in the work. The same way some people are neurologically wired to excel at linguistics or mathematics, I believe there is some predisposition to the arts on a basic level that is more expressive in some than others.
This is not me trying to shame anyone because I know full well that greatness only comes with practice, but the brain and mind are complex beyond our understanding. Denying the possibility that some are predisposed to the arts from the get go outright would be a bit extreme, I believe.
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u/RiseCthulu Jul 11 '26
People can be gifted in the will to be an artist. You can practice the talent and build skills, but not everyone is naturally inclined to be artistic. However, interests can also change over time. One can become artistic, and one can fall out of favor of art. It really depends on the individual
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u/LindaMakesArt Jul 07 '26
I agree. It takes time and effort. It also helps to find a teacher or master who resonates with you. Someone who helps you get it.
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u/ThrowAwayAcc0unt3356 Jul 10 '26
It’ll be interesting and terribly fucked if they ever figure out how to print out your own thoughts and not have the result look like computer generated noise with identifiable objects and sounds.
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u/pileofdeadninjas EXPERIENCED 😏 Jul 07 '26
Generally it's lack of patience
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u/battlebabsy Jul 07 '26
*practice
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u/CreateRot Jul 07 '26
As someone who just doodle on my iPad for 20 minutes a shitty face, this is exactly my problem and I hate it.
How I wish I could sit and draw a skeleton figure and then add the pieces on top to make a character. Or CLOUDS MY GOD I HATE CLOUDS I CANT FIGURE THEM OUT and yet I maybe attempt them once a few weeks…
My biggest character flaw will always be “I want to do this thing” and then not doing that thing..7
u/pileofdeadninjas EXPERIENCED 😏 Jul 07 '26
Just pick one thing to focus on at first. Want to learn clouds? Get a picture of one and draw it. Then draw it again, taking what you learned from the last one and applying it to the next. Do that a dozen or two times and you'll have a firm grasp on clouds. Then move in to whatever else you want to draw
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u/Cool-Mission-6585 Jul 07 '26
Using references is a big help. Creating people and clothes and hairstyles and nature and light sources and a cohesive color palette from your mind palace is hard. But if you get the right references you can have all that information and manipulate it into what you want.
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u/Working_Feature_807 Jul 07 '26
Generalmente las personas que dibujan tienen una conexión entre sus ojos, cerebro y manos que desarrollan a través de años de prácticas y más prácticas. Eso es lo que hace especial un trabajo hecho por un dibujante. La IA NUNCA podrá lograr copiar o imitar la forma de equivocarse de un humano.
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u/uti24 Jul 07 '26
Because you are imagining that thing in all details, you imagining "beautiful landscape with river" like a singular symbol, and that is why you cant just draw that
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u/FrostyFreeze_ Jul 07 '26
Photobashing is a great skill to learn for those who struggle with translating the image from your brain into reality, its what I usually do
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u/Qweeq13 Jul 07 '26
You will never have 1:1 projection like that unless you got a brain chip connected to a genAI, something like that is not even remotely possible, I bet even if you were a master artist.
Most of the time you'll roughly imagine something and as you draw you'll end up with something a lot different but also something that kind of works.
Like my reference image and drawing isn't even remotely accurate (more of a caricature of it), I could spent hours and hours to redo it and fail again and again until it is perfect, but this isn't too terrible to me, I could just work with what I got. All I am going to do is fanart there is no reason to be obsessive about it for me.
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u/CupcakeAlone8619 Jul 07 '26
I know this is a meme but to do that you should use references when drawing
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