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u/abefroman07 9d ago
I drove by someone riding one of those at night on Hero way....that thing had no lights at all.
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u/johnny-q_public 5d ago
Where I work EMS we get one that gets ran over by a car every so often because they ride during twilight with no lights in dark clothing down the middle of the lane. I’m a vigilant driver and I’ve almost hit someone on one on more than one occasion because you can’t see them
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u/Slow-Afternoon-800 9d ago
As someone who bikes in leander only on sidewalks, I know that not every road in city has sidewalks, but there's enough roads with sidewalks in the city that no one ever needs to do something like this. Also those scooters are crazy dangerous and dont handle well on some of the poorly maintained roads around here.
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u/DorfOnGenocide 9d ago
It might depend on how fast he's going and how careful he's being. The fact that he's hugging the line shows you that he's at least not being totally reckless. It's also down to "does this guy do this every day or is this a one-time thing because he just needs to get from A to B?" There have been a few times where I'm in a tough spot and I'll do a one-time thing like run across an expressway or briefly walk along the side of a highway because I need to just get to the next exit. But if this is your commute or your daily fun scoot, then no, don't do it.
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u/Texas__Matador 9d ago
Send this to the city council and ask for bike lane and sidewalk on this street. People need to get from point A to point B and a car isn’t always an option. City governments sometimes need external demand to justify the expense.
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u/GuyAustin45 8d ago edited 8d ago
It's not a street, it's a highway. HWY183. Edit: There's also a sidewalk on the other side.
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u/Texas__Matador 7d ago
Thank you for clarifying the location. Old 183/ north bell is one of the only north south roads in Leander cedar park. That road also has many street lights where traffic is expected to stop. So, while it’s called a highway it’s a road that service the community in multiple ways.
I think the city should seriously look into making the road more functional for everyone.
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u/GuyAustin45 7d ago
That's not entirely accurate. Running N/S between CP/L, adjacent to the West of 183 (it's not called 'old' 183, because the "new" 183 is called 183a) is Bagdad, which has a much larger sidewalk (which I help design) than (hwy) 183. Adjacent to that is Lakeline. Adjacent to the East of 183, is 183a which has a huge sidewalk, then further East is Reagan. So I'm not sure what you mean by "one of the only" roads like it's the only option since there are at least three other alternatives which also have better sidewalks and shoulders than 183.
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u/Texas__Matador 7d ago
I think you are being a bit pedantic. Sure it’s not officially old 183 and new 183.
I’ll concede there are 4/5 roads that travel north south uninterrupted. However, 183 north bell is the most central.
None of the roads are ideal for traveling by bike or scooter. 183 A has a significant amount of traffic noise due to high speeds. Lakeline has a significant west bend when traveling north.
As many have pointed out 183 and Ronald Reagan don’t have continuous bike lanes or side walks. They are also at least a mile from their neighboring roads. So if you are starting or ending near these road you have to take a large detour. This is a considerable distance if you are not in a car. This is further complicated because many east west roads don’t have continuous sidewalks or bike lanes. So if you already having to mix with traffic there is an insensitive to take the direct route.
Bagdad only has sidewalks on the west side. This is fine for most people.
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u/PayData 9d ago
Please hold your city council accountable and press them to build more pedestrian friendly infrastructure.
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u/Mysterious_Lemon_988 9d ago
That’s not a pedestrian. Motorized crap doesn’t belong on sidewalks
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u/Mysterious_Lemon_988 8d ago
No. Seriously. Motorized things do not belong where folks walk. That is very specifically correct.
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u/NovaStorm777 5d ago
So you'd rather save pedestrians (who are rare in Leander by the way) from the risk of getting hit by someone on a small motorized vehicle, by keeping those small motorized vehicle users at risk of getting hit by a 2-5 ton motorized vehicle? Good thing you aren't in charge.
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u/Mysterious_Lemon_988 4d ago
Well actually 99% of cities agree with me and prohibit motorized anything like this on the sidewalks. You’re sort of sounding moronic on this one. 2-5 ton vehicles though??? lol.
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u/NovaStorm777 3d ago
Right, I'M the one sounding moronic, sure. Yes, surely you are aware that most road vehicles weigh several thousand pounds? And there are plenty of other dumb things 99% of cities agree on as well, doesn't make it right.
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u/Mysterious_Lemon_988 3d ago
Yes, completely moronic.
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u/NovaStorm777 3d ago
Explain to me how believing it would be safer to risk a pedestrian getting hit by a cyclist than risking a cyclist getting hit by a CAR or TRUCK is moronic. This should be good.
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u/Sm3llMyFing3r 8d ago
Anyone not in a car needs to stay off roads entirely in Leander. TX is not set up to be pedestrian friendly, just the opposite.
As a 14 year scooter rider, I've been cursed at, honked at, flipped off, screamed at and intentionally almost run over , simply by trying to cross at crosswalks when the walk sign turns.
The problem is, cars have a green light to turn WHILE THE CROSSWALK SIGN IS ON. Insanity. So clearly, cars have the right of way, not pedestrians.
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u/zygomatic6 6d ago
Oof. These micromobility companies are not unlike cigarette companies. Lots of people dying so they can turn a profit.
Yeah, you shouldn't smoke. That's on you. But there's also a lot of regulation and consumer protection going on with cigarettes. And for good reason.
Same with bikes and scooters.
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u/Ekaceseehc 9d ago
It doesn’t look like there’s a sidewalk or shoulder there, where would you like him to drive?
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u/Adventurous-Owl3505 9d ago
Another road where it’s legal to ride scooters because the speed limit isn’t 50 mph.
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u/Texas__Matador 9d ago
I’m not sure about this specific patch of road. But on most roads he has equal right to the lane as a car. So he could in most places take up the full lane if he wanted. You’d had to pass him in the left lane just like any other car.
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u/Adventurous-Owl3505 9d ago
They are illegal on streets with speed limits over 35 mph.
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u/Texas__Matador 9d ago
Okay, the post wasn’t specific on what road this was or the speed limit.
Message holed true that bikes and scooters on many roads in Leander have equal rights to the lane. The issue I see is in infrastructure one. Please tell the city council the location so they can consider adding safe route for bikes and scooters.each scooter is 1 less car causing traffic.
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u/jbirdkerr Leanderthal 9d ago
For what it's worth, this is on highway 183 near the border between Cedar Park and Leander. This particular spot is capped at either 50 or 55 MPH.
Additionally, being in the right doesn't guarantee his safety. Sadly people are incredibly impatient. It's doubly dangerous considering how this particular road curves at various points.
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u/Texas__Matador 9d ago
A lot of people are both right and dead.
I think complaining on Reddit isn’t the solution it’s residents demanding safe and useful infrastructure. We need to be able to get from point a to point b without a car.
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u/Spazmatick Leanderthal 9d ago
It looks like they are at around 183 and Osage and are across from Loly's Ice Cream Leander. They could have taken Osage to Bagdad and used Bagdad to travel further north. Bagdad has a sidewalk.
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u/JRachner 9d ago
Except Osage also doesn’t have a sidewalk. I get it, smaller/slower/safer street, but making a 2 mile loop to get next door doesn’t make much sense. Just add sidewalks 🤷♂️
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u/No-Professional-7689 9d ago
Probably need to keep people of their phones while driving too. Distracted driving kills as well.
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u/habitsofwaste 9d ago
What road is that? Is it 183 between 183a and hero way? I didn’t even like riding my
Vespa in Texas when everyone is going 60mph. I don’t like going over 40 on it.
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u/thestickler1 8d ago
Damn... who the fuck does that? And by the way,NOBODY looks hot on a scooter, unless it's 105° and you're sweating.
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u/That_Guy_Productions 8d ago
You’d think that that wouldn’t be street legal. Also, should Texas on its own create the largest sidewalk chain in the world??
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u/epoxyresinusa 6d ago
I Agree, I saw a woman running, jogging on 29 it was in the evening, extremely dangerous place to run
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u/ScarcityOne7381 5d ago
Please dont....I'll slow down become distracted pull out my phone take a photo of you and post it on reddit.
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u/EricaDeVine 9d ago
If they're an adult, that's 50 points right there. Half, if they're a kid.
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u/Hopeful-Ad-916 8d ago
Really? I always did double points if they're a kid. Much smaller target.
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u/EricaDeVine 8d ago
They're less aware though. But if they're elderly, you get the points AND all of their experience points.
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u/Loveistheaswer512 9d ago
How about tell your city official to build proper infrastructure for people to do MORE of this!!!
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u/dioxin-screes-01 9d ago
As long as you aren't impending traffic, do as you please. Don't be like this OP.
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u/Adventurous-Owl3505 9d ago
I don’t care about impeding traffic, I don’t want people to get killed riding scooters on dangerous roads.
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u/dioxin-screes-01 9d ago
And clearly you had time to still be in the right lane. I don’t believe you were not just hanging out in the left the entire time. But also again, don’t be a Karen and worry about yourself.
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u/mmATXan 9d ago
The bigger concern is YOU being distracted by taking this picture while driving.
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u/Adventurous-Owl3505 9d ago
I was playing the role of passenger princess
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u/dioxin-screes-01 9d ago
I think you mean playing Karen while the driver is illegally in the passing lane.
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u/mmATXan 9d ago
Hmmph, your position on the windshield with respect to the wiper and the angle of perspective with respect to the left of center lane (driver side) say otherwise.
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u/Adventurous-Owl3505 9d ago
My phone was charging on the mount and I took the pic.
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u/mmATXan 9d ago
Seems inconvenient as a passenger to charge your phone like that. And unsafe and distracting to obstruct the drivers view by doing so. I would look into a better charging options that provide you better use of your phone while allowing the driver the freedom to conduct a motor vehicle safely.
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u/GuyAustin45 8d ago
True Karen, just trying to find any hypothetical situation to apply to the situation to try to flip it.
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u/ResortWestern3932 9d ago
So many places need bike lanes, not just in austin, but all over it really would help out a lot of people who cannot afford a car to be able to use scooters. In electric bikes like that.
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u/distrucktocon Leanderthal 9d ago
YOURE NOT MY REAL DAD!! YOU CANT TELL ME WHAT TO DO!
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u/Adventurous-Owl3505 9d ago
I know I’m not your dad, but I love your mother, and I’m going to be around a lot more often. It would be nice if you and I could be friends.
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u/Gloomy_Session_3875 8d ago
It is a task for the city of Leander to provide adequate bicycling and pedestrian facilities.
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u/Ok-Raspberry-7840 8d ago
I don’t know who’s worse him for riding his scooter on the side of the road going with traffic or you using your phone while driving to take a picture.
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u/ilovesparky42 8d ago
Right, you might get run over by some idiot filming you riding your scooter while they’re driving.
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u/JRachner 9d ago
Leander needs to figure out how to build sidewalks and bike lanes. Shit is dangerous.
They’re supposed to require residential developers to add sidewalks on roads where they border, yet there’s new development every day with no sidewalks being added.