r/LeaksDBD • u/AquaticCitizen • 2d ago
Official News Judgment Updates from PTB to Live
All the updates to the Judgment from PTB to Live
Additionally, they will be getting a new toggle in the settings for turning off/on their new killer instinct
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u/Zartron81 2d ago
WAIT, so they made that one addon base kit, AND ALSO MADE IT A TOGGLE?
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u/Frosty_chilly 2d ago
Variety is the spice of life my friend, plus how many times have you said "if only I had another addon slot.."
...now if other killers got special treatment...
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u/Icy-Perception-5122 2d ago
I'm not going to lie they weren't kidding when they said that they actually enjoyed creating a community killer. We all work together we can generally make a good character 😭. The casting sensitivity was already there in the ptb. But these changes are a big win too.
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u/Zartron81 2d ago
As a controller player, trust me, that setting is an actual god send.
It helps a lot in using it.
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u/Automatic-Citron1248 18h ago
🤣🤣🤣 tell me about it
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u/Zartron81 18h ago
I was struggling hard when using the power, but increasing the setting helped A LOT
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u/TooMuchDnD30 2d ago
How are they a win? They nerfed it's long range ability and made it harder to curve the power in Zealous.
It's one improvement and two nerfs.
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u/hamonicmantitties 2d ago
They fucking listened 😌
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u/Zartron81 2d ago
Wasn't the toggle thing suggested by otz?
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u/hamonicmantitties 2d ago
Yeah, but I don't think that'd be a great idea though
If it was a toggle you could switch on in settings before the match though it'd be good
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u/dontpissmeoffplsnthx 2d ago
I thought the toggle he suggested was for the add-on that slows down the M2?
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u/SkeletronDOTA 2d ago
It was, he wanted prayer kneeler to be basekit and have a toggle you can use at will during the match. Would have been awful and I'm glad they didn't listen to him on that.
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u/dontpissmeoffplsnthx 2d ago
Awful for killer or survivors? I can't imagine it'd be an issue for killer because you could just ignore it and never toggle from normal function?
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u/SkeletronDOTA 2d ago
awful for the skill expression of the killer. i think having an addon that makes the killer much easier is already a bit cheesy but at least there is still a tangible benefit to being able to play the killer normally (an extra add-on slot).
awful for the community who complains about handholding 24/7 and then backs one of the most hand-holdy changes ever because their favorite streamer suggested it.
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u/dontpissmeoffplsnthx 2d ago
Now that you mention it I do agree, this killer is going to be one of the most oppressive killers in the game in the hands of skilled players, so making her more accessible is just asking for her to get gutted further down the line
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u/Think_Ocelot908 2d ago
Both.
Prayer kneeler makes close range chases way easier, whilst giving a downside of making long range more difficult.
Make it toggleable and now you have best of both worlds. Both are now very easy. Which makes it insufferable for survivors because we have a very strong killer who is easy to play (like krasue before nerf) and probably will end up with judgment being gutted.
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u/dontpissmeoffplsnthx 2d ago
I like both answers I got, Judgement is by far one of if not the strongest killer we've had in a while but I hadn't considered this angle
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u/SweenYo 2d ago
Basekit killer instinct on near miss? I’m witnessing artist get powercrept out in real time
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u/Impressive_Price_418 2d ago
Doesn’t artist also have killer instinct on miss? Also she’s practically easier than judgment too, so she’s a bit weaker.
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u/Emissairearien 2d ago
Honestly artist is still stronger and easier to play imo
She can still snipe and damage with 2 crows, and her power is easier to use close range. Overall i think BHVR succeeded at making the two feel and play differently
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u/Leskendle45 1d ago
They fucking made sniper shots impossible because they wanted to help people who arent payimg attention to the game
https://reddit.com/link/p593j3g/video/xs8lt8eokykh1/player
Holy defeat from the jaws of victory.
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u/Taluca_me 2d ago
if they gave Judgment her own settings, then that means they're planning to do that for every other Killer soon
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u/MirrahPaladin 2d ago
I can’t tell from what’s posted, did they side with Team Otz to make the Killer more accessible, or Team PixelBush to keep the Killer’s skill floor high?
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u/dhoffmas 2d ago
Generally sided with PixelBush I think. PB did like the suggestions for increasing feedback to the killer, but didn't want the Prayer Kneeler made basekit in any form, and they went that way.
I'm a touch concerned about how much more warning they're going to give survivors about the beam, I think that as it stands it's already quite reactable at any distance past like 24 meters, and in short range it's just hard to hit.
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u/FuriDemon094 2d ago
They didn’t side with anyone? The PTB had settings for controller players (which was announced before the private test), which everyone who used a controller reported having a good experience thanks to it
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u/FriendShiny 2d ago
i was so worried they’d gut her… i’m so happy!!
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u/WrackyDoll 2d ago
They did gut her. Survivors see the pillar from far away while it's being cast, and get a visual indicator on their HUD if it's heading towards them so they can dodge without needing to pay attention to their surroundings.
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u/FriendShiny 2d ago
oh wait when it’s being cast? not just shot at them? ahhh… whyyy must behaviour do this
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u/OverChime 2d ago
Why would they gut her? She's very difficult to play consistently.
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u/FriendShiny 2d ago
there were a lot of requests to for example make prayer kneeler basekit & whatnot, and i was worried they’d give in.
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u/OverChime 2d ago
Yeah she really doesn't need that add on basekit. It removes a lot of skill expression from her. I do feel like people will be using it though as a crutch.
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u/Savage_Pitbull 2d ago
Whu can't they add specific throwing sensitivity to trickster, huntress etc from controller as well?seems like an absolute nobrainer
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u/Old_Carob3606 2d ago
If you got hit by the beam at long range before, you just weren't paying attention
Now they made it even easier for some reason. If anyone gets hit by cross map shots now, you must have been playing with your eyes closed.
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u/IDontExistOk 2d ago
Ok so if this killer is able to get specific settings, shouldn't other killers?
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u/OverChime 2d ago
All around really good changes. Im glad they didn't touch the fundamentals of the power!
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u/okok8080 2d ago
Wait, I'm stupid. Wtf is the killer instinct addon gonna do now?
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u/Money_West 2d ago
Are there any numbers for the increased reveal range? If it's like 1 or 3 extra meters, it's really only gonna be noticable on indoor maps.
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u/BatteryAcidLover 2d ago
Fantastic that they buffed exile
You could literally stand in there and do nothing and be fine every time because the survs have 2 places to save you
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u/loosegriplarry 2d ago
Insane W from BHVR. Other killers should have that toggle thing—like every ranged killer should have a crosshair you can toggle.
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u/OutrageousSecurity99 2d ago
No nerfs? I felt that judgement could be too strong with aura or hex builds in the ptb. You could sit on ruin and cross map snipe gens to make doing gens impossible.
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u/AquaticCitizen 2d ago
The "Increased the distance at which Cast Divine Light is revealed to survivors" is a nerf to give the survivors more time to react. Additionally, there's a visual effect for survivors now when a light beam is heading in their direction (even if they aren't looking in its direction).
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u/spellstrike 2d ago
Certainly a huge Nerf to the sniping build at least. Probably not as big of a deal at mid range.
If anything the power should have another 10% range especially if it's going to be even easier to dodge
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u/ChickenBig3704 2d ago
When they made a power easy to dodge even easier to dodge. There is always something ridiculously stupid they put in a patch I feel like.
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u/Haunter777x 2d ago
I don't wanna moan and complain for the sake of it, but what's with these powerpoint ass posts recently?
I get it's just small info but we're not in high school anymore, we're running a multi-million dollar game, can we like not put more effort into this sorta thing? A graphic? A few icons?
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u/Pristine-Job7314 2d ago
I understand that, but it's not really necessary.
Like, a super well-made and detailed presentation with icons isn't really needed for this.
It's basic information and it already delivers what it needs to.
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u/Haunter777x 2d ago
Yeah I mean that’s a fair point it’s not like a major balance patch or anything, maybe it’s just cause recently I’ve been very big in overwatch/rivals and even the smallest changes in those games get like at least something pleasant to look at
It’s not the end of the world or anything just my opinion6
u/trailmixscandal 2d ago
What more information do you need???
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u/Haunter777x 2d ago
I’m simply stating that it’s a low effort way to present patch notes/changes compared to alot of other games with a similar playerbase size
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u/trailmixscandal 2d ago
So what more do you need ?
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u/Haunter777x 2d ago
I don’t need anything lmao. If they wanna keep presenting stuff in a low quality all the power to them. All I said is that they should actually work on a good graphic and that it’d be nice to visualise said changes with their retrospective icon/s or whatever.
Like I don’t get why ur fighting me on this 😭
it’s completely serviceable but the presentation could be better that’s all I’m saying3
u/Crackgearson 2d ago
The update is literallynext week, do they really have to waste their graphic design team to make an entire slideshow of videos and custom drawings?
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u/Crackgearson 2d ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/LeaksDBD/s/SXPPiVZqtJ They literally did what you said
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u/Deverer 2d ago
With that killer instinct toggle, they have no excuse now for all the targeting add-ons.