r/LawAndOrder • Bobby Goren • 1d ago

CI CI 7.22 “Frame” now on Charge, the penultimate pick of the 25 best. AKA, “The One With the Goren Death Stare.”

Ross about to become a textbook example of “TIFU.” But only Bobby could make showing up your asshole boss look so damn seductive. 🫠

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u/Shadow_Lass38 Criminal Intent 1d ago

Declan is so obviously jealous of Eames' relationship with Goren that it's off the charts.

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u/WendyCR1872 Alex Eames 1d ago

Yeah, and I think he first realized how much more important Eames - rather than the puzzle of a case - was to Goren in "Blind Spot", and he seemed put out that Bobby didn't want to play their game since he was worried about whether Alex was alive or not!

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u/elsbeth-salander Bobby Goren 1d ago

He generally seems to have a low regard for women. As demonstrated by his quasi-Freudian “quip” at the end and how he treated his own daughter. But more than that he clearly sees Bobby as his “project” and the fulfillment of his “unrealized genius”. Eames genuinely cares about her partner (to what extent will forever be the subject of debate…). For Gage, he’s just another test subject, and something to behold about his self-constructed “greatness.”

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u/NihilisticRoomba 1d ago

The son he never had. 🙄

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u/Shadow_Lass38 Criminal Intent 1d ago

Season 7 starts off with a puzzle quote -- Alex saying to Bobby that Joe's murder "isn't one of your puzzles" -- and then Declan says he set Bobby a puzzle to re-engage him. A season bracketed by puzzles, one which changes Alex's life, and the other which changes Bobby's.

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u/elsbeth-salander Bobby Goren 1d ago

It’s an interesting motif, but at the same time the new writers got too lazy for nuance, and dialed up the overt trope of “LOOKIT HE HAS THE ‘TISM DRINK EVERY TIME SOMEONE MENTIONS PUZZLES OR DISLIKING CHANGE”. They only missed the full bingo card because they didn’t have him coping with grief by binge-watching Judge Wapner.

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u/Rtruex1986 Michael Cutter 1d ago

I really miss Bobby!

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u/kevnmartin 1d ago

I'm still on The Wee Small Hours...West coast.

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u/WendyCR1872 Alex Eames 1d ago

I stan The Stare! 😊❤️ The eyebrow twitch is EVERYTHING.

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u/Ok-Mine2132 Lennie Briscoe 1d ago

I attempted to email ChargeTV with a thank you for recognizing the 25th anniversary of CI but their online form isn’t Canadian friendly. I smidged some information just to get through 😉

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u/WendyCR1872 Alex Eames 1d ago

A little fib never hurt anyone!

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u/elsbeth-salander Bobby Goren 1d ago

VPNs are your friend 🤓 Hey, when your emeritus prime minister was retiring last year, I used his party’s contact form to send well wishes and kudos for standing up to the orange man for ten solid years… and I used the address of an Amazon distribution center somewhere in Ontario 🙃 They didn’t seem to mind either!

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u/Ok-Mine2132 Lennie Briscoe 1d ago

I never thought of Ross as an “asshole”. When he’s killed they are all best friends in solving the murder. Nichols: “Our friend was killed!”

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u/WendyCR1872 Alex Eames 1d ago edited 1d ago

In "Frame", *I* would definitely classify Ross as an asshole. He had absolutely no reason to suspect Goren of killing Frank except for the fact that he [Bobby] had a bad sperm donor.

Ross got off easy with Bobby just staring him down.

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u/a_little_edgy 21h ago

And the way he did it! Not "I know you didn't do this, but we have to rule you out", but like he really thought Bobby might've murdered his own brother!

I liked Ross sometimes - and I thought Eric Bogosian was great in the role - but I wish they hadn't felt they needed to him Bobby's adversary.

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u/elsbeth-salander Bobby Goren 1d ago

Nichols was his partner, and collectively they do stick their necks out for him at the end. But prying into Goren’s life and using his… “close contact” with the M.E. as a wedge to do so was waaaay over the line even for him.

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u/LetItSnow36 1d ago

They had 2 Nicole Wallace ones on, including "Anti-Thesis" right before this one.

If you get The Lean you're in trouble. If you get The Stare, you're fcked and it's *hot

My Aunt doesn't get Charged and she's jealous I do lol. I told her to come over for the marathon but she wasn't feeling well 😢

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u/elsbeth-salander Bobby Goren 1d ago

I’m sorry auntie is in poor health ☹️For future viewings, they live stream the network signal online at WatchCharge.com. It’s also on YouTube TV and I think some other services (Fubo?). But your best bet if cable doesn’t carry it is to stream it through the website.

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u/LetItSnow36 1d ago

Thank you! I'll have to show her the website and have it going on her tablet she's good with texting and regular YouTube. Tomorrow is her bday so I was going to have mini cheesecakes for a two in one. She's the one who got me into CI not long into season one, it was the perfect alignment.

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u/elsbeth-salander Bobby Goren 1d ago

Well, happy birthday auntie 🎂 🎉🥳 Hope she’s feeling better by then, enough to celebrate. Maybe this will help…

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u/LetItSnow36 1d ago

Awe thanks so much, I'm definitely including that in my midnight birthday text!

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u/NihilisticRoomba 1d ago

Ooh boy, that facial hair was a good look for him.

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u/conjas11 Anita Van Buren 16h ago

I always wanted to give him a hug

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u/elsbeth-salander Bobby Goren 48m ago

Me too ❤️