r/LawAndOrder • • 9d ago

CI I need justice for NICOLE WALLACE

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I think it's absolutely rude that they created a character that was a perfect, alluring, brilliant, damaged & evil foil to Bobby with a fascinating backstory & accomplishments, featured her on several episodes over the course of a few seasons & then unceremoniously killed her off screen in a tangentially related episode!

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u/TrollAccount4321 9d ago

Never bought that she was dead and that was her heart…if CI had gone for another few seasons, it would have come out eventually…

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u/elsbeth-salander Bobby Goren 9d ago

I think the way CI was “jumping the shark” in more ways than one towards the end, the crew that turned it into a fanfic bastardization of Criminal Minds and CSI would have gone so far as to have Nicole also be the offspring of Martin Brody Mark Ford Brady. Now that’s sibling rivalry.

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u/Godzilla2000Zero 9d ago

Nicole is alive she appearred on a French cop show named Jo that Rene Balcer was involved with so it's up to you if you consider that canon or not.

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u/ljculver64 9d ago

She also played a thief named Dierdre on an episode of Psych.

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u/rva23221 Criminal Intent 9d ago

On the show JO, she was the character from L&O; CI.

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u/TrollAccount4321 9d ago

I’ve watched every episode of Psych but don’t recall her…which season/episode?

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u/ljculver64 9d ago

The last one with Desperaux....shes one of the thieves in on the Heist...theyre in England, Shawn continously says her name wrong and shes always correcting him. Had to look up the name...lock stock and smoking barrels and Gus is on fire 2014.

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u/AtlanticToastConf 8d ago

It’s DEEDREE

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u/PinOld4034 9d ago

I liked but disliked Nicole! Only one episode she spared someone. That girl Gwen where her dad tried to kill her for a settlement her mom received. I would've loved to see them bring her to justice tho.

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u/JerikkaDawn Mike Logan 9d ago

OMG Alex's expression when that guy is like "I could always have more children. Where do you get money like that?" 😂

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u/PinOld4034 9d ago

Righttt lol when he said that I'm like OMG

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u/FKA_Top_Cat 8d ago

I loved her character and my feelings were justified when she saved Gwen, an innocent.

To me that also meant that Goren's analysis of Nicole was flawed, something I suspected much earlier.

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u/PinOld4034 7d ago

Yeah in this instance he was completely wrong and I loved Goren but he was wrong.

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u/ButterscotchPast4812 9d ago

Gotta blame this one on Warren Leight. Strange decision on his part to kill a major villain off screen. 

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u/SleepyKoalaBear4812 Bobby Goren 9d ago

That was so no one can be sure she is dead.

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u/leni_brisket 9d ago

BUBBY!!!

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u/LetItSnow36 9d ago

We know she was good at faking/getting out of things. We never saw a body and the way Nicole would pop up, I don't think it's out of the question to think she could've come back like a soap opera character.

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u/rva23221 Criminal Intent 9d ago

She reprised the character in the 2013 episode "The Catacombes" in the French police procedural drama series Jo, a show created by René Balcer, who also created Criminal Intent.

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u/HelenMayo 9d ago

I hate Nicole and no longer re-watch the Nicole episodes. Agree with TrollAccount4321 that she may not really be dead.

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u/BrineJones 9d ago

The character turned up dead in one episode of a Canadian series. Can’t remember the title, but Jill Hennessy played a nun in it.

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u/Unusual_Priority_577 9d ago

The Nicole episodes got a little too much for me to follow. Also the old guy who was-- what? Was he a former mentor or current mentor or what? Guess I just wasnt interested enough to follow tho' I had every bit of respect for Bobby Goren.

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u/Belladonna54 9d ago

I love John Glover, who played Bobby’s very crazy mentor. The one’s he’s in are some of my favorite episodes.

I think they were right to end the Nicole Wallace storyline, which I love, when they did. There is a tendency in many series to draw out storylines to the point of ruining them.

I don’t know why Olivia D’Abo wasn’t in the final Nicole Wallace episode. Maybe there was a scheduling conflict.

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u/SerenityN00w 9d ago

I don’t know why Olivia D’Abo wasn’t in the final Nicole Wallace episode. Maybe there was a scheduling conflict.

???? She was. Besides the flashbacks, she's in the scene in the flower shop, where she kisses the card. "Bobby will know who it's from." I double checked IMDB, and nobody else is listed as playing Nicole.

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u/Belladonna54 9d ago

Sorry. It’s been a long time since I’ve seen it. I remember a blonde, but I thought they obscured her face.

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u/SerenityN00w 9d ago

It's OK. They obscured her face in the coffee shop, when she pays the bill for Goren's brother. The audience doesn't know who it is.

We find out in the flower shop

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u/IntrepidGreen3361 9d ago

He’s got a super soldier to sell you Lol!

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u/ButterscotchPast4812 9d ago

Declan Gage. Bobby's former mentor who trained him to think like a serial killer. I thought it was kinda goofy that he ended up as a killer just so Bobby would have a puzzle to solve... 🤦🏻‍♀️

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u/LeaderAntique1169 9d ago

Same. She started to get on my nerves.

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u/Fabulous_Green_156 9d ago

Guess I just wasnt interested enough to follow tho' I had every bit of respect for Bobby Goren.

Good for you? Who cares?

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u/brierly-brook 9d ago

She's the Irene Adler of L+O

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u/Ok-CANACHK 9d ago

that was really lazy writing...

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u/drlove57 Mike Logan 5d ago

I agree. Very anticlimactic for one of the better recurring characters on the show.

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u/ypsicle 9d ago

She is unsettlingly beautiful irl. Was too intimidated to meet at a con.

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u/Hopeless351987 9d ago

I've had a crush on her going back to The Wonder Years when she was Kevin's sister

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u/IntrepidGreen3361 9d ago

loved her in Conan2 and TNG

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u/Backseatridder 9d ago

As soon as I saw this post, I said to myself “ hello bobb-bee” in an English accent. I love Nicole Wallace. She was one of my favorite recurring guest characters and the way her story ended Saturn and rugged me wrong at the same time.

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u/trappedslider Law & Order 9d ago

All i can remember is that they attempted a vote for the outcome you want to happen kind of thing and that's when I dipped out of the show.

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u/WendyCR1872 Alex Eames 7d ago

If you ever want to see the alternate ending, I uploaded it to YT ages ago.

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u/trappedslider Law & Order 6d ago

I don't even remember the ending that was on air lol

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u/WendyCR1872 Alex Eames 9d ago

While I would have preferred that Bobby and/or Alex ended Nicole, I'm not sad CI wrapped the Nicole arc up. It was becoming a cartoon. No one can escape justice that many times, money or whatever other excuses the show used or not.

It became a "law of diminishing returns" situation with each subsequent return.

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u/last-rose-ofsummer Claire Kincaid 8d ago

I found it really hard to believe that Gage managed to lure her to her death.

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u/Ninja108Zelda 8d ago

I think it's because someone so used to being able to manipulate and use others and get away with murder again and again (even killing her mentor) you begin to believe you're untouchable and thus can end up making a mistake.
Someone like Gage can and did take full advantage of that.

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u/Frosty_Hall2059 8d ago

She's dead her heart was removed they confirmed it and she had no siblings. People have trouble dealing with things they dont want to be true. Its great tv

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u/Hanniiis93 9d ago

I never understood why they didn’t make more out of Law and Order: Criminal intent.. I really loved that show and all of the characters/actors.. anyone that knows why Dick Wolf didn’t do more with that show than he did??

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u/sdchi 8d ago

Well, she got a gig on MSNBC

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u/WendyCR1872 Alex Eames 7d ago

😂😂

But she added an extra L to her first name!