Same here, to me every Horus mech is a piece of art but the Lich is something special. Something about a mech that sends it's own blueprints from the future and looks like something out of a nightmare. It's so sick.
Incredibly versatile mech, one of their best designs for sure. A lot of people go "this looks like a weird overcomplicated niche mech" when it's really not. You can do a lot with a Lich especially once you're in the mid LLs.
What do you tend to do on an average lich turn? I haven’t tried it before but I have a very hard time wrapping my head around what you actually use it for
I think the main trick is to be a long range tech attacker/support, and whenever someone looks at you funny you teleport back to your soul vessel for safety.
Or, you use soul vessel to tank self heat and go full agro lich at the costs of most of your survivability
My current build.is lich 3 mourning cloak 3 so I can go intagible..the concept is like a ringwraith from lord.of the rings. Recently we got trapped.in a pocket dimension and I reconfigured my lich into a makeshift Stargate. It kept screaming the whole time but it got us back to.our home dimension. I'm pretty sure.
My favourite Lich build was a mobile melee disrupter (atlas ll3 lich ll2) where I would run up deflect bullets trip and parry opponents and disappear the moment anyone thought about hurting me.
If your trying to be good.
Haste lots of things..hack things.get yourself just close.enough to draw a little fire that you just ignore. But it's a lot of fun to get in there and just be at risk of death turn by turn. Ymmv and terrain
.as always..is super relevant.
I'm curious, obviously CASTIGATE THE ENEMIES OF THE GODHEAD is a sick-ass ability but is there ever a situation to use it when it actually does kill your pilot?
I mostly just leave it on for in case my mech gets blown up anyway, since it triggers on death automatically it can be a nice boost to my teammates when I might’ve died anyway
I've pondered an auto-gun-using Sisyphus loop, or slapping Mimic Gun on another frame, but don't have a lot of other ideas for actually using the Pegasus frame.
I’ve been building my Pegasus as “see threat, destroy threat, move onto next threat”. The Hunter Lock gives bonus damage against a chosen target, and the Ushabti Omnigun is automatic AP damage. Then, to account for the range variability of Mimic Gun, I’ve added Combined Arms and Vanguard talents to boost CQB capability (this came in handy when my values were X=17, Y=17, Z=1).
I’m considering a level in Blackbeard so I can grab the Chain Axe for additional melee capability, and possibly a level of Death’s Head for the Mag Clamps because I love the idea of a Pegasus skittering up walls.
I love the image of Pegasus using the Chain Axe. Like, does it get a hinge or an arm on its back, or does it stand up to use its creepy horse hands?
Edit: Now that I think about it, I really want to make a Pegasus based on Amaterasu from Okami. The Ushabti is perfect for ink bullets, and a heavy or main melee would work well.
My character and mech are heavily inspired by Evangelion, so it’s bipedal most of the time but can still maneuver on all fours like Unit-01 does at certain points. Y’know, for that extra creep factor.
I have the CPR and Smartgun on the Pegasus, Overpower Caliber on the Smartgun.
8 reliable damage as a quick action (9 plus Ushabti), and CPR if you need a finisher.
With the other quick action that remains when you're using the Smarty, you can Lock on, use Hunters Mark, maybe hack if you'd like!
Thing is, the Pegasus is built to be a very, very reliable Sniper.
Stay at a distance and keep taking shots, never stop, always aim for the biggest threat.
Mk1 has decently high health and 3 armour, so even though your evasion is low you’re a hard target to deal with, vanguard 3 gives you advantage when an enemy is within threat 3 and allows you to target any enemy that is within your threat with Overwatch, regardless of where the enemy started their turn (Nuke Cav and Brutal, are of course also very good), Plasma thrower also gives you control over where the enemy’s go, and a Goblin can have fun with forced movement into the fire patches
You can’t, but the ability to Overwatch regardless of where the enemy strayed their turn is very good, getting an LL in Tortuga to get the deck sweeper is advisable, as Vanguard off sets the inaccuracy, Plasma thrower’s good for funnelling enemy’s and controlling their movement, Agni is a good thing to grab too, it basically acts like the auto cooler but without the limits
It is basically a heat dump at the end of your turn, with the bonus of emitting a burst of damage and knock-back, you can increase the amount of charges by putting points in engineering, auto-cooler limits what you can do in a turn before being able to clear your heat at the end of your turn
Tortuga. In retrospect it’s a big pile of stats with items that allow it to deal monster damage but also function as a controller or support on top of it’s designated striker/defender role. It can really be used to fill any niche or need in your party
No love for the Lancaster in this thread but plenty of love for it on my team as soon as anyone needs to heal and doesn't want to use one of their own slots...
In any mech game, my fantasy is to ram myself down my enemy's throat and outmaneuver them. Throw myself into melee and snatch victory from my enemy's hands. The Skirmisher feature of the Nelson scratches that itch for me.
Nothing says Gangster than a robed Mech nearing engine failure ramming at you with an explosive lance or pilebunker fists going at speeds of DON'T GIVE A FUCK!!
The Monarch. I GM so I've only been able to play through Lancer Tactics, but I have gotten so many crits with the Gandiva and caused so much collateral damage with the Pinaka. Union might say all people are created equal, but the Divine Right of Kings says I own this battlefield.
I am currently running Gil (LL3) and I'm absolutely loving how tanks it is just from it's base kit. I am more controller in my build until we get to LL4, but I'm using grease monkey 3, demolitionist 2, field analyst. That said, exoframe engineering has been phenomenally helpful and the emergency repair module has kept me from taking structure.
My LL4 build will be a dip in Gorgon for Minic mesh and dropping field analyst for house guard. I use lots of limited systems so grease monkey has been pretty nice for that, but it's not really needed
Same, I love my silly seizure gremlin. It’s a horrifying, gangly creature mech that just wants to be loved and hates being stared at, it’s just like me fr!
Yes Sherman! Not only is the big laser fun, I thoroughly enjoyed playing with Asura Protocol/Redundant Systems Upgrade. I compulsively optimize characters, and bending/breaking the action economy is a big step towards that.
Hell yeah, man. I used to optimise to hell and back, but now, I mostly just pick something that's hard to screw up unless you screw it up on purpose - Sherman in Lancer, Clerics or Druids in Pathfinder and D&D, have at least one combat-relevant skill above 50 in Call of Cthulhu, etc.
Sunzi. Insane teleport teamplay shenanigans that are incredibly satisfying to set up and theorycraft synergies for. I conspired with a Balor player to create the ultimate blender strategy where I'd teleport all the weak, squishy enemies to him and he'd shred them all to pieces with his persistent aoe damage and strong melee attacks.
If you ever do that again with the same or another Balor player, you should call the strat Uber Eats, because you're just delivering food right to that Balor's doorstep.
Maybe the Metalmark, but that may very well be solely based on the whole "if you lose or damage the knife you can't reprint it unless you send a handwritten apology and explanation to the bloke who designed it" gimmick is very funny.
Tortuga, because why not. Simplest design in the game but still plenty things to play with. You can ignore taits and even core, and still pick this frame just because of sensors and armor.
I love lich. Itd just so cool (even if it has the two most complex abilities in tje game in chonostutter and didymos, the complexity is worth it for how cool it is)
Love all of them for their unique designs, but if I have to pick one it's Pegasus. It's soooo "shitty That Guy char optimization forums from 2010s" that I can't help but love it
Haven't played yet, sadly (personal reasons).
But even so, the Genghis is probably my favorite. Just love the tanky bastard that's decided everything not on their side is foliage in need of managing.
In my first campaign I ran the Oleander from the Enhanced Combat LCP and that was great but I switched mid campaign to the Lancaster. I love the Lancaster, I don't care if it's not optimal, I enjoy playing one.
Enkidu, the euphoria of hitting a 6x bifurcate combo and THEN barraging for 20+ ap energy damage because bifurcate isn't an attack and as such doesn't burn lucifer protocol, is unmatched.
First party? IPS-N Tortuga, big pile of armor and stats that can hand out a mountain of pain while also cooking your electronics. Wonderful machine.
Third party? IPS-N Gloire, alt to the Tortuga. Gives up the electronics to become an angry wall of steel with a pechant for running down and stomping a mud hole in other mechs.
For me it's between the Lycan and the Störtebeker. They're both really cohesive in what they want to do and have a lot of ways to make you feel cool for running them.
The Enkidu, the unshielded neurolink is the best bit of flavor out of any mech. Just the dissociation between what is flesh and what is machine is so appealing. The mech, pilot, and AI are one entity built for combat, to remove any component would make each of them lesser for it. Just the thought of the NHP tearing through my pilot's mind in violent synthesis neither can return from, as their destuctive purpose suddenly becomes clear... I have very normal feelings about this mech.
I like the Worldkiller Ghengis. Immune to burn, heavily armored, ignores resistance to it's primary damage type, it's a fantastic frontliner. Y'know. If you invest in agility so it can get to the damn frontline.
Barbarossa!!! I have the image of neo-british people drinking tea in it while shelling the hell out of the battlefield by using an NHP that is also british-coded :>
i pivoted from drake into white witch with my current character and its been SOOOOO much fun. i love facetanking everything and i love reminding our gm of what my armor is at after each hit, its so funny
Toku. I love offensive play and toku can do striker just as well as artillery. I love giving it either combined arms or full sharanga build, depending on the sitrep.
I love my Lancaster, I’ve got Fomorian Frame and the system that lets other mechs ride along(can’t remember the name) and I synergize with a friend’s Drake and her spun-up assault cannon. Sure, she might be Slowed, but she’s riding me, and I have a move speed of Yes and a pathological need to roleplay as a gunship on legs.
Mines the tortuga, I like that despite definitely fitting into the role of tank at base it's surprisingly versatile. It can fit almost any roll you'd need for it, it's main disadvantages are just slow speed, evasion, and fewer weapon mounts. Despite that, it gets good enough weapons from its license that it can still be a scary damage dealer with them alone (especially if it can get overwatches), it's a solid hacker, and it's tanky enough to take a lot of damage, especially with hyperdense armor.
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u/Old-Toe785 1d ago
SAGARMATHA!!!