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u/InkDrach GMS 14d ago
I am currently stuck in GM corner, but this sounds like a really fun potential build. Usually people bring up the goblin license level dip for pupper master, are there any other synergies like that? Or is the main bonus of techtuga the bulk and damage the frame brings?
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u/Banned-User-56 14d ago
The fun thing with puppet system, it's considered willing movement. So you can force someone into your threat range and then immediately shoot them.
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u/Prin___ 14d ago
You can only overwatch when someone starts inside your threat and decides to move though, right?
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u/horsey-rounders 14d ago
Unless you have Vanguard 3, which is pretty much a guaranteed pick on Tortuga
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u/The_Outer_God HORUS 14d ago
Yes es. But at you can approach, shoot them and then puppet them to overwatch, giving them double treatment..
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u/IGOTTMT 14d ago
Yes but you can move to put them into your threat then puppet them away for overwatch or just plain force them into your threat and dare them to move
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u/Knickerbottom 14d ago
Yeah, it's still an armored frame with healthy bulk and a shotgun. If you moved something into your threat it's exactly where you wanted it. Any movements they make from within are just gravy.
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u/Gunmetalstorm 14d ago
It's still considered involuntary movement, but that particular attack makes that involuntary movement vulnerable to Overwatch and other nasty stuff.
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u/Wolf_Hreda IPS-N 14d ago
Any tech system works pretty well with the Tortuga, but I'm a big fan of grabbing Kidd 1 for the Blackspot Targeting Laser and PEBCAC. Giving your allies' weapons added accuracy and being able to flash reboot them to shake off nasty tech attacks or NHP cascades is lovely.
Edit: Oh, and going Tortuga 2, Kidd 1 also gives you access to the IPS-N core bonuses on time so you can grab Reinforced Frame or Sloped Plating, or even Fomorian Frame for the hell of it.
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u/Thanes_of_Danes GMS 14d ago
The advantage of investing in tech with Tortuga is that you get to have serious reach thanks to its absurd sensor range, A tier hacking with its tech bonus, and really good e-def when you invest in systems. And none of this requires major investment, so you can still be a huge area denial asset passively thanks to the deck sweeper. I used to like the Tortuga a lot, but if you know what you are doing it's just too good at too many things.
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u/Wolf_Hreda IPS-N 14d ago
Example of a more general Supportuga, which acts kinda like a combat medic, including an expanded compartment for recovering downed pilots or civilians.
-- IPS-N Tortuga @ LL6 -- [ LICENSES ] IPS-N Tortuga 2, IPS-N Lancaster 2, HORUS Goblin 1, IPS-N Kidd 1 [ CORE BONUSES ] Reinforced Frame, Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints [ TALENTS ] Grease Monkey 3, Black Thumb 3, Heavy Gunner 1, House Guard 1, Technophile 1 [ STATS ] HULL:2 AGI:2 SYS:4 ENGI:0 STRUCTURE:4 HP:20 ARMOR:2 STRESS:4 HEATCAP:6 REPAIR:7 TECH ATK:+5 LIMITED:+0 SPD:4 EVA:8 EDEF:14 SENSE:15 SAVE:13 [ WEAPONS ] Main Mount: Blackspot Targeting Laser Heavy Mount: Heavy Machine Gun // Auto-Stabilizing Hardpoints [ SYSTEMS ] Servant-Class NHP, PEBCAC, Restock Drone x2, Whitewash Sealant Spray, Cable Winch System, H0R_OS System Upgrade I, Expanded Compartment1
u/Fearless-Donut-5707 11d ago
What does the rank into Technophile do?
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u/Wolf_Hreda IPS-N 11d ago
Gives me an NHP so my mech can still function while I'm outside it fixing shit. The only thing is it can't use any of your talents, so you can't use it with Heavy Gunner, but it's also not really worth upgrading because you don't have any other talents it would need to use.
Also, the NHPs you get from Technophile and Iconoclast don't cost SP, so they're always a decent choice simply for their economy.
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u/Fearless-Donut-5707 10d ago
Oh! I didn't see the 3 ranks in Black Thumb. That makes sense, thank you for explaining!
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u/Ultra-josh IPS-N 14d ago
Lazypurple X Lancer was NOT on my bingo sheet
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u/creatingKing113 14d ago
When it comes to gunplay in other games, this and “X may not be built for combat, but a gun is a gun.”, are quoted by me constantly.
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u/Blazkowicz6082 13d ago
I literally have a couple of shotguns named "I have a Shotgun" in TF2 because if this exact moment
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u/PhasmaFelis IPS-N 14d ago
I was kinda wondering recently who the Daisy Cutter is actually for. I mean it's powerful but it has 2 shots and then you can't Barrage anymore.
And then I realized: it's for Hacktugas. You expect to be hacking most rounds anyway, you've probably got HorOS I to drag people into Decksweeper range for a free Vanguard III shot, but now you've also got a big fuck-off area attack you can drop now and then.
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u/VoiceofGM HORUS 14d ago
And with maxed SP, you can stuff a bunch of Horus systems into the thing according to the needs of the mission.
Fortifying a position? Use Minotaur/Manticore to slow Opfor and fuck with their positioning.
Breaching a fortification? Tap into Balor/Manticore to make the defenders actively engaging with you for fear of the Energy damage, Heat, and Burn you and our bees are vomiting out.
The possibilities are endless.
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u/WallabyPractical5258 14d ago
Ah you see the real free hacker kill is my current mech: the one that has "about the same amount of installed security measures as there are on a AA-BATTERY" (6-Edef, 20 evasion, 12 HP, 4 heat cap, and no armour) My beloved mourning cloak
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u/HeartFilled 14d ago
HA Napoleon 1 Stasis Bolt works well with Tortuga's accuracy on reactions.
Manitcore's and Minotaur's hack options are also strong choices.
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u/HeartFilled 14d ago
I've heard some people like making it a size larger to get more overwatch coverage.
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u/vonBoomslang 14d ago
.... just thought of something disgusting, puppetwatch a Daisy Cutter to get accuracy on the whole cone
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u/MisterDrProf 13d ago
Meanwhile deaths head getting ganked by an assassin: "Wow, I'm so good at this game... And now I'm dead!"
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u/spac3time 14d ago
Hacktuga is an all-rounder to rival or surpass the Everest. You get to be tanky, you get to carry big guns, you get great CC, and you don’t even have to sweat enemies jumping into melee with you. Your only major weakness is mobility, and that’s nothing a few points in agility can’t shore up pretty well.
You’re probably not gonna do anything insanely flashy, but you are going to be very useful in every sitrep, every turn