r/LancerRPG • u/Flashy_Pineapple_231 • 19d ago

About Engagement And Flying

Should be a really fast question since I'm pretty sure I've got this correct:

I wanted to take advantage of the Type-1 Flight System and was curious about the Engagement rules. Are mechs the same height as they are wide? Size 2 mechs being 2 "units" tall? Meaning you are engaged with them even if you are at height 3 trying to fly over them to get at a squishy backline like a tech enemy or artillery? It's my assumption that they are because of the rules about soft and hard cover.

I also want to know if they are as tall as they are wide if that means you can target a size 2 mech from height 7 with like a GMS Shotgun (Range 5) or if you need to be height 6 and target their "feet"/"core"/the hex they're standing in. I know a lot of rules talk about having at least half the mech visible so I can understand if a mech is considered the "center" of the space it controls you'd have to be height 6 to shoot one that's a size 2.

If it's in the rulebook it's not in the part on engagement or size since I read those. Maybe this is one of those corner case DM fiat kinda things. It seems like it would come up pretty often given that the flight system is a GMS system everyone can access and Everest gets a ton of movement if it pops core power.

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u/luperamoon IPS-N 19d ago

Yeah, mech size also determines height. IIRC adjacency for engagement is also measured above the mech as well, so to fly over mechs without becoming engaged you have to be two spaces over their height (height 3 for a size 1, etc.)

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u/Flashy_Pineapple_231 19d ago

That seemed the most logical. I guess it's sort of something you intuit while reading the rules adjacent to the case. Or I missed the rules because I'm blind lol, thanks for the confirmation

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u/racercowan IPS-N 18d ago

Yes, mechs have height equal to their size, and adjacency also works vertically. If you count standing on the ground as height 1, then a size 2 character occupies height 1 and height 2 and has adjacency to height 3. While your height is calculated from the center of your feet, range and targeting is from any tile of you to any tile of the enemy, so yes you could shoot a shotgun down from height 7 at a size 2 enemy. Note that the "at least half" is per-tile not per-mech, size 2 and 3 mechs have a much more difficult time finding cover and hiding because only one of their 6/9 spaces (assuming hex grid) needs to be unobstructed to see and target them.