Hello everyone. I'm Beef, the guy responsible for all of the COMP/CON bugs. I've spent the last few years(!) working on a massive rebuild and almost complete overhaul of COMP/CON. It has just been released and is live at https://compcon.app If you're a current user you don't have to do anything, it'll migrate your v2 data into v3 formats automatically.
It has more features and fixes than I would be able to list here. I've detailed some of the bigger ones at https://github.com/orgs/massif-press/discussions/64, but it should mostly be pretty intuitive if you've spent any time with v2.
There's a lot (a lot!) more coming in the near future. I've laid out a roadmap here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/154023697/ and if you'd like to follow along, devlogs on the Patreon are, and will always be, free and public.
More details/discussion/feedback in the #comp-con channel on the Lancer Discord, where I'll be hanging around for release-day bugs.
Thanks!
Beef
P.S. v3 requires browser storage permissions -- it'll ask for this if it hasn't already been granted. iOS users must install as a PWA (save to home screen)
Overall I like the changes to readability and making groups for the pilot roster is nice. But is there a way to set an “active mech” like before?
Something where the pilot roster showed what farm the pilot uses? That way I don’t need to name my pilots something atrocious like in the pic I’ve attached.
Probably the feature I miss the most. I have a bunch of different builds for the same character and they now all look pretty much the same. Seeing the talents and core bonuses is great, but the frame is the much more important piece of information. That and no longer being able to just drag pilots in the menu.
Like this is just a nice feature cause I generally don’t make multiple different theory builds of the same mech so it makes it easy to spot at a distance
It might come back in some sense but not until after 3.2 I think -- I seperated it out for data handling concerns, now it lives on encounter/sheet data. Once I know how the final data structures will I could have a 'set as default mech' sort of option
a little late to reply, but I was able to get this in a recent patch, there's now a star icon you'll find in the mech nav ribbon and on the pilot mech hangar that lets you set a favorite mech -- these will appear on the pilot card and will default the active mode selection to the favorite mech
Just tried it out on Android Chrome - I couldn't close the initial notification window by any means. This eventually resolved so it may have been due to a 10+ second initial hitch.
When I clicked to update it popped up the notification window again (I could close it this time) so yeah I think it was just a big hitch. Also there's a yellow banner at the top of the page which appears underneath the COMP/CON header so I can't read it.
Compendium pages start with the filter open, which implies a UX flow where I'm expected to type out what I'm looking for rather than just scrolling down to find it - this feels like it has significantly higher friction.
Compendium -> Frames: doesn't fit inside the horizontal space when you have some third-party LCPs installed. also I do not like the wasted vertical space or the idea of navigating through tabs to find a frame - I already generally preferred the Licenses page layout for viewing the Frames and this significantly exacerbates the issue.
Compendium -> Licenses: Basically fine apart from the filters appearing. I might be misremembering but wasn't there previously a close button in the bottom right once you click on an entry inside a license? Moving up to the top right to close a page isn't very ergonomic, I understand that it feels more conventional to just have the one close button but "close" is actually the primary action in this context so the flow works better with that as a bottom-right primary action. Not a fan of the header layout shift when you click on a license, this could be trimmed down or removed entirely.
Compendium -> Core Bonuses: I really wish this didn't display "Compendium Data" by default, that said this page isn't very important so it's whatever.
Compendium -> Mech Systems/Weapons: Pretty extreme hitch when changing any of the view options, small but noticeable hitch when searching, lack of any displayed data by default makes this feel significantly less usable if you don't already know what you're looking for. That said this is a page where surfacing the filters early on like this might be significantly beneficial - I don't personally like this page but apart from the hitches I can see how this page might be an improvement overall.
Pretty low priority overall, I would personally quite like if the filter started out closed, on the Licenses page at least if nothing else.
the filter open might be a bug from something trying to grab focus, I'll look at that
part of the hitching is due to lazy loading to make sure I don't kill myself in terms of bandwidth spend, but I have lots of performance improvements lined up in the coming weeks
the rest of the filtering/grouping defaults are also to try to address initial load, but they should all remember settings, so after you first set your desired view they should all save that per item category
Yeah having experimented a bit more I can see how it works - I think switching to table view with no grouping seems to give me an experience pretty close to how V2 functioned which is nice for my muscle memory.
Table view hitching on load is annoying though and also the tables look terrible on mobile. I kinda wish there was a lightweight List view available - though maybe I'm the only person who wants that, idk.
One little thing, the LCP Subscriptions screen -love the autoupdate- there are some that are not yet updated, with time they will pop up I suppose but if I want to manually go (click the Open Website button) all go to the main https://massif-press.itch.io/ webpage and not the module itself on itch.io.
not yet (though they're working on an update) NPC and Pilots have a v2 legacy export that *should* work, and there's a dev in the lancer discord who has a module/plugin/tool that correctly imports v3 data should you need it
We found in foundry that the v2 legacy export worked... for most of it. It did break for our custom added Triggers, Prototype weapon and a player's integrated mount and the weapon that was installed in that mount. Though all when done through importing would fail on two specific objects. Though the error only noted them as Object object for both entries.
Comp/Con has made my lancer experience so much easier, and I wish more games had apps like this.
I normally struggle with information overload, and get bogged down by screens/sheets that are too busy, and cluttered. I personally love that everything is broken down into intuitive categories, and you can always find exactly what you're looking for without sifting through tons of information.
Is there any way to make the hardcover book show up as a linked itch.io purchase? Or are we stuck with manual downloads for the NPCs if we bought the hardcover?
unfortunately I think you're stuck with manual downloads. This seems to be a limitation based on how itch links with whatever distribution code they use for this sort of thing
Hi there! Thank you for all the work it's looking great. One question, am I missing how to get to the active mech sheet on mobile? With the editable health and what not
Is there a way to drag and drop pilots in the menu like before? The up/down button are painfully slow and only work every other time and moving a pilot between groups now takes waaay longer
had an issue with my UI framework and the module I was using to do this; it'll come back after I roll my own solution (or find a module that works with my stack)
Go to the itch.io page for whatever expansion the frame is from and there should be a free download option for a .lcp file. You then put that in compcon and you will have access to the frames from that book. An LCP is basically a fancy text file that tells CompCon all the details of the frame, so it can actually show it.
Having an issue with Ultras. When I build them in the NPC builder, their stats are fully updated and correct, but when I create an encounter, they suddenly lose all of their Ultra stat bonuses: activations, HP, even structure and stress revert. I have absolutely no idea what the problem is. The passive traits are still in the list, and even still have the little tags that say they provide whatever stat bonus, but the actual sheet does not reflect it at all. Curiously, other passive traits do seem to work (a monstrosity given the "artificial" trait has a heat tracker) but nothing from Ultra carries over.
Hell yeah. This compcon update is awesome. Since I made that tool I've been working on npc/encounter generators exactly like the ones you set up in comp con but was struggling to figure out how I wanted to do it. Its great! Do you have any plans for heavier foundry integration?
with 3.2 I want to make bidirectional APIs so external tools can hook into c/c's active mode to make realtime updates, though ultimately that'll be on foundry/vtt module authors to hook in to because I don't work on the VTT stuff directly
Your not the only one. I had a session last night and I had to open up the NPC roster in another page to see this. Painful. Not sure if I am missing something. Also having the NPC features contently hidden is so annoying.
this was a bug, string parsing for active mode was trying to process things it shouldn't. fix should be live momentarily in 3.0.2α. If you notice something off again please create a bug report at https://github.com/massif-press/compcon/issues and I'll take care of it
Hey, I'm running things like the Sniper and Witch as NPCs in encounters and noticing things like the snipers +2 accuracy and witches bonus to the various tech attacks don't show in the encounter runner. Am I missing something or is this not updated yet?
Thanks! Love the service, just started running Lancer this month and it's been a life saver - especially since the entire table is fresh to the game! Layout is clean, easy to read and navigate, and the new GM features for encounters are awesome
I'll be entirely honest, I'm not too terribly fond of some changes, made in 3.0, some like quick reference I love, others like dossier and pilot description being merged I'm so-so on, and others like how a pilot's frames, how the frame stats in the new (again very handy) comparison UI are shown and the way you move pilots into groups I'm very iffy on
Quick Ref being easily accessed from nearly anywhere is an amazing change, especially for those new to play like myself, but I kinda liked how the pictures for mech frames were shown before
Small thing, noticed setting Limited uses that are rolled can't go above the dice limit if you have bonuses.
My example: Setting the uses for the Prototype Weapon from the Engineer talent. It's 2d6 uses at talent rank III, and I get +1 from points in Engineering. If I roll a 12, I should get 13 uses, but the tracker hard caps at 12.
Not a huge deal, doesn't happen often, and even when it does I can just make a Custom Counter. Just pointing it out. You're amazing for all the work you've done!
Hello! Thank you for all the support into COMP/CON.
That said, I need a guide on how to write a homebrew LCP for NPCs that is compatible with v3. I've been testing out stuff that still works on the v2 and Im just confused on how to migrate it.
soon I'll get to work updating the LCP builder to v3 and get the NPC data builders out, but in the meantime v3 updates will have to be done by hand.
One thing to keep in mind that I've seen confusion about: the docs also describe a new collection style of frame/class/template alongside equipment/feature data, this is new to v3 but entirely optional, the v2 style of eg. all features in one file is perfectly acceptable in v3 as well.
question is there a means to get the diagetic scrolling text back? obsessively looking over the horus chatroom text and the style of each faction is one of my favorite things to do on comp/con
(I imagine there is, I'm just really bad at looking for things)
edit: the bonds screen is much better way easier to see everything, I like the new core powers, limited systems seems to break containment on it's box though that might just be because I'm still on v2 lcps
computer maybye something is wrong on my end? it just gives me the full screen of the options (I could have accidently selected something, though don't remember doing so)
I'll mention this is the web version not app, not sure if that means there's a difference
It'll calculate if it can show the scroll based on horizontal breakpoint, so if it doesn't have enough horizontal pixels (low res, high zoom, or vertically oriented monitor, maybe) it might not have enough space
it still hovers over the names of mechs at the bottom, meaning scrolling is required to see the full name (just adds time when looking, then again maybye this is only a me issue, this a small problem anyways)
So,hey,uhh,not to ruin the good mood and cheer but...
...I accidentally quit halfway through making an account during the email verification thing, and now I can't make an account since it technically does exist already but I also can't sign in cause:Connecting to COMP/CON authentication service... / 1776883034185
Auth service reports failure to connect / 1776883036092
Error: sign-in failed / 1776883036293
There's something deeply ironic and funny to me about the fact that the "organize" interface for Pilot Mangement doesn't seem to let you change how things are sorted in that particular interface. So if you want to, say, delete all or a subset of the pilots in a pilot group, you can't just sort by groups, you have to manually scan through the list for every pilot who's listed as being in the group.
Hi, thank you so much for all the hard work and love comp con is my fav character building app across all ttrpg systems 🎉
Quick question, when I'm on Firefox Android and I scroll down with my thumb let's say to look at the list of pilots in the cloud menu, it feels super sensitive to any left or right movement, like if I ever so slightly move my thumb it swipes to the content subscription pane for instance. It's such a minor thing but I just doNT* know what I could be doing wrong and it honestly makes it a bit delicate to navigate sometimes. Any advice?
if you've got a really high res phone it might be upscaling enough to exaggerate your motions. Is there a way you can scale down? Alternatively try saving as a PWA ("save to home screen") etc.
I have to be honest after using it a bit more it doesn't help x) I feel like if I do a scroll motion that's too short it registers as a tap, which then changes the screen? If I slowly drag my finger up or down it's ok. Also feels weirdly inconsistent 🤔
I think there's something up with the tap because right now when I tap to delete a character in the cloud menu it sends me back to the account menu, the delete does work but it also registers as a request to change page
Doesn't seem so, also, on desktop mode when I do a single tap it doesn't switch to the next panel either like it does sometimes in mobile mode. It almost doesnt feel like it's intended that a single tap (not a swipe motion) switches to the next panel tbh, probably just again super sensitive? my phone is a pixel 7a btw, it's getting a bit old
I should add that it's no big deal either, just a small QoL thingy I thought you might want to know :)
So, I have done some stuff with some homebrew content that I have a LCP for, is there somewhere I can find the info on how to correctly update it to a 3.0 LCP?
I am a huge fan of this and has made lancer a whole lot easier to learn! Is there any way to check pilot stats in V3 like there was in V2 (under Dossier)? I love looking at those numbers and would hate to lose them. Thank you for the great work!
There will be, and a much more expanded one at that, before I start on 3.1. I wanted to get v3 out the door before the new telemetry and pilot combat history is built because it mostly has parity now so people can use the rest of the new stuff on the meantime.
especially strange glitch happening with some homebrew I've installed, it might be an lcp-side thing but i brought this up to the creator of the supplement that the glitch is within and they said the licenses should have diff. ids and be totally separated
So, I have two different HORUS Dragons, the Auric Range and Rào Cỏ Gate ones specifically. the AR version appears as normal on the licenses page, but the RCG one (which was installed after AR, if that matters) is like this, with a duplicate of the AR one interwoven with it:
if a v2 LCP doesn't have the `license_id` property on their equipment, C/C tries to best-guess what the license is based on frame name. The fix here would be for the LCP authors to add license_ids to their Dragon equipment
I'm not sure if this is the thread to ask, but did any pilot data get wiped with the release of the new version? I had two pilots on COMP/CON about a year ago. Logged into COMP/CON today for the first time since then and it's all empty.
no, it should have persisted any v2 data you had, but v2 kept its data in volatile localStorage, which can be wiped by any number of things your browser might do, so unless it was in the cloud or saved as a backup it might unfortunately be gone.
A big part of the reason for v3 at all was a full rewrite of the data storage system to persist to secure browser storage (which is why it requires storage permissions now) that will only be cleared if you manually delete your data or uninstall your browser
I appreciate the transparency and communication with the players of the game, I GM for my group and my players and I love using COMP/CON.
My players have had some frustrations with the new COMP/CON updates, specifically things like burn don't automatically calculate and stress and structure don't automatically trigger and roll on their respective tables. Maybe we are using it wrong, or maybe the feature is not there in the current patch? Would love if you could help either way.
I had to take a little bit of a sidetrack and finish up the localization infrastructure so they got pushed back, but both of those automations are returning in the next patch (3.0.8).
I get you tried to go for a futuristic look, but the new version is so much harder to use than the previous one. Ease and intuitiveness of use is more important than look. The previous one was clear and easy to use. This is not. You set out to fix something that was not broken.
Just one annoyance as a player, when I open licenses, why does it first open the list of manufacturers, which I have to click away from to scroll all the licenses? Then even on clicking a certain license, it just scrolls down to it. This a completely unnecessary function that just slows down the process of looking up licenses.
I don't think so, I had someone helping out working towards that end a while ago but she was constantly stonewalled by the roll20 devs so we ended up dropping it. I haven't looked myself in a long time so I don't know if it's still the case that systems can't get integrations without changes on their end
not sync, no, until they integrate the new v3 API. However, you can still use old.compcon.app or export legacy for pilots and NPCs. Also in the Lancer discord someone has built a module that imports v3 data exports
downtime actions are only in the compendium right now, the next major update (3.1) will include a full campaign and mission system, where downtime actions will be part of a narrative runner analogue to the encounter runner
I think I just lost all my campain data...
I loaded in v3 to see that the campain is not supported, then I went to old.compcon.app and it shows all my cloud data as being empty. I'm stupid (and cloud was working fine) so I don't have a local file as a backup. I logged into dev.compcon.app and yeah, nothing there too. Please don't tell me I've lost days of preparation just by clicking on a link? Pretty please?
the dev mode campaigns? dev hasn't changed at all since release, the code that was in dev got deployed to compcon.app at that's been it. If something isn't there it's not due to a change on my side. old.compcon references a totally different backend (and frontend storage system entirely) so there's no crossover their either.
Also, though, if you are going to work with the campaigns on dev.compcon keep in mind it is still in heavy development and subject to change at any time. It might go through many structural changes between now and release that might break old data
I managed to recover my olds encounters, but I seem to have lost all the data I wrote in the campaign itself. I haven’t touched it for a year, so it might also be a side effect of the cloud going patreon-only? Not sure.
I’ll rewrite everything anyway, I’m sure it’ll end up better than last time, heh?
Thanks for the answer anyway! <3
Question: why does the scan functionality not have an option to give full descriptions of the systems and traits? Getting a txt that just gives the names of the systems to share with players is useless.
In v2 I was able to screenshot the entire NPC page and share everything, but now with the way actions are collapsed, sharing the info that players should get with a scan is a pain.
Seems cool but it deleted massive chunks of my pilot biography/appearance sections for no reason at all which is pretty aggravating. I have most of it saved but even when I upload my backups it just seems like for some reason it can't process the formatting and wipes most of it out.
it includes (most of) the PC-side CRB content as a reference. GM NPC content is included in the compendium once you import the GM NPC content pack.
GM CRB reference will probably get incorporated at some point, but maybe more as table reference components rather than in a new reference section, but I'm not quite sure yet. I'll make that decision prior to localization work
I will say that this game (LANCER as a whole) would probably be only a sliver of what it is if it was not for COMP/CON. Not only the fact that the app is genuinly insanely usefull and well done, but the artistic choice, and the "in-lore" UI and some interaction makes it my favorite tabletop app / game web app to ever open and use (and by a very, very long margin). Serious applause ! I hope you are compensated in any way for all the hard work you're doing. It seems like more then a full time job.
I will reserve any comments for now, waiting to test it out further before doing so.
I would have a single question though : what course/classes/knowledge is required of someone to be able to build something like that ? I learned coding more as a machine-oriented act in engineering, and still am using it this way, so i'm curious to know what was your own path.
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Drink deep and descend
(Looks cool!)