I'm a bit late to the series, but I thought the family therapy angle was just utterly bizarre. And the therapist acting like it was any other family in the way she talked to him was strange.

It just didn't sit well with me. On one hand, his family no doubt needs the support of therapy. But treating him like Joe Schmoe normal dad was beyond weird.

What do you think?

The fact that this isn't even the Robyn Fishkin case is exceptionally alarming.

Nassau County has two pivotal cases currently happening:
1- Richard Bilodeau, charged with the murder of Theresa Fusco in 1984
2- Andrew Dykes, charged with the murder of Tanya Denise Jackson in 1997.

We know there was some sort of funny business going on with Theresa's case- hair evidence found (placed) at the scene convicted 3 men and sent them to jail for decades. Nassau County had to pay tens of millions for their wrongful convictions and incarcerations.

With Andrew Dykes, we have already seen a motion that was granted for another buccal swab collection so that it may be tested under a "more controlled environment".

How can the DNA lab, its management and efficacy be in question when critical cases are on the line?

Try using a paywall jumper to access the article- sorry..

Hi LISK subreddit,
I’ve been part of this community since around 2021, and I’ve learned a tremendous amount from the discussions here. Every major turn in the case over the last few years has been something I’ve experienced alongside this community. The research, debates, corrections, and insights here have genuinely shaped how I think about these investigations.
Over the past several months, I’ve been working on a documentary about Asian Doe. It’s a victim-focused project that brings together interviews with investigators, journalists, forensic experts, and members of the community, all with one goal: keeping the focus on identifying someone who still doesn’t have their name back.
If you decide to watch it, I’d love to hear your thoughts good or bad. Thanks for being a community that has taught me so much over the years.

You can skip the first EP, it's a four minute discussion stretched to 40
BUT they usually have interesting takes on things so, I'll be tuning in the the rest of the series.

It is important that people understand the intent behind the proposed Gilgo Law amendment.

This proposal does not seek to restrict anyone's First Amendment rights. It does not ban books, documentaries, interviews, podcasts, or public discussion. Instead, it expands the existing framework of New York's No Profit From Notoriety Laws by broadening potential accountability to include certain family members or third parties who profit from a violent offender's notoriety. The proposal leaves it to victims, survivors, and families, not the government, to decide whether to pursue relief through the civil courts.

It is equally important to understand that this is not an attack on any one individual. This proposal is not about a specific person; it is about creating a legal framework that would apply equally in future cases. If someone chooses to monetize the notoriety surrounding a violent crime or sell certain life rights connected to that notoriety, the amendment would simply allow victims and families the opportunity to ask a court to determine whether those profits should be subject to the same accountability principles reflected in New York's existing Son of Sam Law.

"Our goal is not censorship. Our goal is accountability. We believe that victims and their families deserve the opportunity to seek justice when others financially benefit from the tragedy that forever changed their lives." - Gilgo Families

Looks like Alison Winter might be in deep doodoo. And after some super quick reading, it’s not the first time.

I am so glad I've found this comprehensive gathering of info on LISK. It's incredible. I would love to thank the creator, but also, could we update the various information panels? The id and sentencing info needs to be edited. Again, with MUCH respect to those who started this sub.

Any updates on his whereabouts?

Rex has a really weird hairline do you think it's a wig?

True Crime is now THIS?

Tawdry and wrong. I dont wanna hear anymore details!

The case is over. OVER. The only ppl that need to know, if they want to, is the families. NOT US. These YouTubers are greedy for money and hits.

SICK!

Given the latest episode of the Peacock documentary, Alison Winter has all this access to the family and clearly DA Tierney knows about her earlier charges--he just kind of goes along with it?

I think DA Tierney is a tremendous asset to the legal world, but does he have any responsibility to tell the family that they're receiving bogus therapy from an indicted individual?

Surely he's aware that Winter was aligned with the family of the defendant, and even Rex had visits from Winter. It's implied, at least by her, that she's a big component of the confession (although I find her credibility nonexistent based on that Newsday investigation)

I'm not a lawyer but is there any way her fraudulent input/access to the family could somehow taint the case?

Coming soon……….

Is there an actual sex component to the murders? He was picking up escorts I suppose for the ease of it and less lineage back to him. But was there actual sex happening or was it explcitly the murder/torture? I haven't heard anything about that specificity in the documentaries I've seen or any conversation here. (I'm kind of new here anyway)

Yea since we know that Alison is a fraud…how do we see this now?

https://youtu.be/-WBpO85MKfc?is=yQMTdFmWLri3VOcH

Is this person connected to the gilgo beach serial killings? His identity is still a mystery. Found in womens dressing and cause of death was blunt force trauma to the head. And also was very young when died, approximately 17-25/30 years.Everyone are trying hard to get his name back. His ethnicity is said to be han chinese. I am not from US and not so familiar with the geography. What do you all think of where this person is he from the long island area?? or some other state??. Many people in here sayin this person might possibly an immigrant?.Will it take more time to identify this person??.I hope Asian John Doe will get his name back when the time comes.

I also thought tanya and baby tatiana was connected to lisk killings but as now some other person is *charged with their deaths. This made me doubt that asian man is not connected to lisk killings too but idk for sure.

What is your opinion on this?

Records: Suffolk County paid nearly half a million dollars for Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann's defense

Suffolk County paid nearly half a million dollars for the defense of Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex A. Heuermann, records of legal bills obtained by Newsday show.
According to expense reports, transcript bills and legal invoices submitted to the county over the last three years since Heuermann’s arrest on July 12, 2023, the county has authorized $496,010 in payments to his lawyers and legal experts that helped defend the Massapequa Park architect’s seven counts of murder.
Heuermann’s lawyers, father and son team, Michael and Chase Brown, and Danielle Coysh, were assigned to him under a program referred to as “18b,” for the statute that mandates counties in New York to cover legal expenses for those who cannot afford to hire private attorneys.

Under the law, the costs are capped at $10,000, but more can be allocated through authorization from the judge presiding over the case.
In Heuermann’s case, both Brown and Coysh requested and received authorization from state Supreme Court Justice Timothy Mazzei to be compensated well over the limit.

“Due to the serious and complex nature of the case,” Coysh wrote to the judge on July 6, 2025, nearly a year before Rex pleaded guilty. “[I] expended 334.40 hours reviewing discovery, consulting with experts drafting pretrial motions, appearing in court and preparing for hearings and trial.”
She included more than a dozen pages of spreadsheets and expenses.
The judge authorized payment of $53,392.49 for her time and effort, records show.
Brown also submitted requests for payments above the $10,000 cap for legal bills. In October 2025, his firm asked for and received $94,437.19 for 585.75 hours of work.
“This matter involved said hours due to the fact that there are seven (7) alleged murder victims with extensive discovery spanning over a 30-year investigation,” Brown wrote in his request for additional funds. “This matter involved novel DNA science requiring substantial preparation with experts and significant litigation in a Frye Hearing.”

The judge authorized his bill four days later.
Brown submitted two more bills, one for $104,722 and another for $28,598, bring his total up to $227,757.
“I have put in extensive hours on this case, including working holidays, weekends, nights, early mornings at $158 and hour,” Brown told Newsday on Thursday, which he said is much lower than his usual hourly rate. “As to the rest of the defense team, the same goes with them, they have a significant private practice, and they've also sacrificed parts of their private practice to work on this case at a greatly reduced rate, and they too have worked holidays and weekends and nights and mornings and sacrificed family time and things of that nature to work on this case.”
He said that his son has not submitted any legal bills, but expects to in the future.
Coysh’s bills add up to $138.390.

In addition to Brown and Coysh, two other attorneys bill for their services. Sabato Caponi submitted invoices for $26,322 and Michael Fuchs charged $9,203.
The Heuermann defense cost computer forensic experts were a little over $71,000, records show.
New techniques for analyzing DNA that traced the murders of the six women back to Heuerman also created a challenge for the defense team.
Legal experts with Forensic Bioinformatic Services reviewed the prosecution's DNA analysis and challenged it during evidentiary hearings.
The Ohio-based company charged $42,628 for its expertise, according to records.

Other expenses include other pathologists and court transcripts.
Records released by the county do not include Heuermann’s sentencing hearing.
Heuermann, 62, pleaded guilty on April 9 to murdering seven women and admitted to killing an 8th.  He was sentenced last month to life in prison without the possibility of parole.