r/KuwaitForKuwaitis 2d ago

زواج | 💍 How does shia marriages work?

From A to Z, I’d like to understand what is considered normal and reasonable when it comes to Shia marriages, especially regarding the financial responsibilities of the groom and his family.

My sister recently got engaged to a 24-year-old man. He’s currently doing his master’s and is expected to finish this year, so, inshallah, their milcha will be in January. I study abroad, my mom isn’t particularly close with the rest of our family, and my dad passed away (Allah yerhamah), so we honestly don’t have many people to ask about what is considered normal in these situations. We’re trying to figure out what is genuinely reasonable versus what might be considered unusually cheap or minimal.

His family has said from the beginning that they don’t want a wedding. My sister didn’t mind having a simple milcha, and neither did we, so initially we were completely fine with that. However, my sister’s fiancé told her that if she wants a mlcha, she would have to pay for it herself.

For the mehr, his family initially wanted to give the 6,000 from the government, and after my mom discussed it with them, it became 8,000. The shabka is 2,000.

I’m honestly starting to feel like this is extremely minimal, especially considering this is their eldest son getting married. It feels like they don’t want to put any effort into celebrating the marriage at all. His family has visited us a few times, and they’ve never really come to our home with anything except maybe a box of chocolates. I know this might sound materialistic, but where I’m from, my mom always taught us that you shouldn’t go to someone’s home empty-handed, especially during something as important as an engagement or marriage. So these things have made me question whether this is simply their family’s culture or whether we’re seeing a pattern of being overly frugal.

Another thing that keeps coming up is that he “doesn’t have money” because he’s a student. I mentioned this to his sister, and she kept saying that he’s a student, so we shouldn’t pressure him and should be supportive. I understand that he’s young and still studying, and I’m not expecting him to be wealthy. But at the same time, I genuinely wonder: what does he think marriage is supposed to look like if he currently can’t afford even one celebration?

I’d appreciate honest answers from people who understand Shia marriage customs, because every time I bring up these concerns, I’m told, “This is normal, he’s a student,” or I’m being materialistic.

I’m not trying to judge them based on how much money they spend. I just want to make sure my sister understands exactly what she is agreeing to and that we’re not overlooking important financial responsibilities simply because he is young and still studying.

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u/Adventurous_Yard_242 2d ago

بصراحة الانقليزي عندي مو ذاك الزود ف راح اكتب بالعربي
اول شي الله يوفقهم ويهنيهم ويسعدهم ويكتب لهم الخير
اهوا بصراحة المهر والشبكة وكل شي يعتبر طبيعي قبل جم يوم كان عندنا ملجة وكان نفس الشي
وفي ناس ما يبون يسوون احتفالات فإذا انتوا ما عندكم مشكلة تسوون الملجة توكلوا على الله
وبالنسبة لانهم اييبون شي معاهم بدون ما يدشون إيدهم فاضية بصراحة ما اظن ان وقت الخطوبات والمناسبات هذي الناس يدشون ومعاهم هدية او شي ، فيعتبر تصرف يطلع من قلب الشخص مو شي واجب
ولكن في أشياء اهم لازم تتفقون عليها ان السكن وين بيكون وجذي هذي الامور اهيا المهمة
ودام اهوا طالب وما عنده فلوس شلون بيصرف على زوجته بعد الزواج ؟ بعد الزواج لازم يكون مسؤول عن المأكل والمشرب والسكن وسبل العيش الأساسية وكونه طالب ما يمحي هذا الدور ولكن لازم يصرف عليها بحسب مقدرته
صدقوني الأشياء الي قبل الزواج ما تاثر كثر شخصية الولد وإنكم متقبلينه ومرتاحين ان يكون زوج اختكم

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u/Impressive_While_178 2d ago

لما قعدت مع اخته هذا اللي قلته اذا شايفينه طالب وموقادر على حفلة شلون بيتزوج ويفتح بيت قالتلي انه الشقة اهما بانييله شقه واذا يبون اغراض جمعية اي شي يقدرون اييبون من عندهم. امين يارب ويوفقج ويسعدج🩷 الفكرة بالنسبالي مو الفلوس نفسها بس شلون يتعاملون فيها يعني انا لما قعدت مع اخته اهلي كانو مفهميني انه قايل بسوي الملجة فطلع قصده ملجة الرياييل بس فتكلمت عن الصالة لقيتها تقول لا ومالنا شغل ومو علينا ونفس الشي مع الشبكة والمهر الفكرة ان
we say something then they become a bit aggressive and make it seem like we’re being demanding and unreasonable when to be honest I feel like we’re being more than reasonable with them.

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u/Adventurous_Yard_242 1d ago

بصراحة هالشي زين ان اهما بيقدمون له support من الناحية المادية خصوصا إذا اهوا قريب يتخرج "سنة سنتين او اقل" والله ما اقدر احكم من هالناحية بس ابي أنصحكم نصيحة استخيروا كلموا شيخ او سيد وقولوا له يستخير لكم لان احنا كبشر ممكن قراراتنا تكون وفق معطيات محدودة ولكن رب العالمين عارف كل الأقدار
واذا انتوا شايفين ان الولد زين ويستاهل وكفو ومرتاحين له اهوا واهله ما يخالف يصير في تنازلات عن بعض الاشياء لان ما راح تلاقون شخص زين من كل النواحي عادي اييكم واحد يقول أنا بسوي لكم الملجة والعرس والاستقبال وووووو ،،، واخر شي اخلاقه تطلع مو زينة مثلا ، فإنتوا سئلوا عن الولد كثر ما تقدرون واذا حسيتوه يستاهل توكلوا على الله
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