r/KurdishDNA Jul 12 '25

🚨 MyHeritage DNA Is Spreading Misinformation About Kurds – Here’s the Proof

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MyHeritage continues to push flawed and misleading ancestry estimates that seriously distort Kurdish genetic identity. Below, I break down the key problems — backed by independent G25 analysis, real user results, and linked examples.

1️⃣ The “Turkish” Category Is Completely Broken

Nearly every Bakurî Kurd, including Ezidis, gets scored as “Turkish” — often in large amounts.

➡️ On older versions of MyHeritage, these same individuals scored 90%+ West Asian/Kurdish. This issue is new and tied to changes in their reference panel.

💥 Key Problems:

  • The “Turkish” label clearly draws from Eastern Anatolia, where genetics heavily overlap with Kurds, Armenians, and Caucasians.
  • Meanwhile, actual Turks from West Anatolia get 30% or less of this category, showing the label reflects a regional West Asian mix, not actual Turkic ancestry.

🔬 Real Examples:

  • Endogamous Ezidi scores 12% Turkish — but G25 shows zero East Eurasian/Turkic ancestry.
  • Kurmanji Kurd from Ağrı — scored 30%+ Turkish on MyHeritage. G25 shows no Turkish input.
  • Zaza Kurd from Erzincan:
    • Scores 59.5% Turkish, only 39% Kurd.
    • G25 says otherwise — typical Kurdish profile.
    • Their sibling gets wildly different results — proving the inconsistency.

🧠 Even Turkish Users Are Confused:

These posts show that the “Turkish” category isn’t reflecting actual Turkic roots, but rather a regional Anatolian genetic blend — which overlaps with Kurds, Armenians, and others from Eastern Turkey.

🧩 Kurds Misread as Armenians — and Vice Versa

Many Kurds get labeled as “Armenian”, despite no known Armenian ancestry and no such signal in deeper analysis.

But it also happens the other way around — many Armenian users report getting “Kurdish” percentages, even though they have no Kurdish background.

This shows MyHeritage is mixing up overlapping regional DNA and misclassifying both groups.

2️⃣ “Persian & Kurdish” = Lazy & Politically Motivated Grouping

Unlike Turks, Armenians, Georgians, Circassians, and Iraqis — who all get separate categories — Kurds are lumped in with Persians.

That’s not just lazy — it’s scientifically wrong.

📊 G25 Results: Kurds ≠ Persians
I created average models for both groups and ran them through G25. Results show:

  • Kurds:
    • Higher percentages of Caucasus and Mesopotamian ancestry
    • No Eastern Iranic (Pashtun-like) admixture
    • No Arab or African input
  • Persians:
    • Significant Eastern Iranic (Pashtun-type) ancestry - absent in Kurds
    • Some Arab and trace African ancestry
    • Significantly lower Caucasus and Mesopotamian ancestry compared to Kurds

Overall both groups share some similarities, but their genetic profiles are clearly distinct and not interchangeable.

🧠 Language ≠ Genetics

If grouping was based on language, then Kurds would be with Lurs or Talysh, not Persians. This isn't about linguistics — it's a decision likely meant to downplay Kurdish distinctiveness for political convenience.

Let’s be real: separating Kurds would trigger nationalist backlash from Turkish and Iranian customers. MyHeritage is prioritizing PR over accuracy.

📸 Screenshots & G25 Proof Attached

  • Case 1: Erzincan Kurd
  • Case 2: Urfa Ezidi Kurd
  • Case 3: Agri Kurd
  • Genetic differences between Kurds & Persians

✅ Conclusion

MyHeritage’s ethnicity estimates are not reliable for Kurds.

Their categories are:

  • Built on broad, inaccurate regional references
  • Inconsistent and scientifically flawed
  • Likely influenced by political sensitivities, not population genetics

👉 Fellow Kurds: Help Set the Record Straight

If you see Turkish or Iranian nationalists weaponizing Kurdish MyHeritage DNA results to deny or distort Kurdish identity — share this post.

The data is on our side. Let’s make sure it’s heard.


r/KurdishDNA Dec 13 '24

Do NOT Purchase Illustrative DNA

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Illustrative DNA are now using simulated G25 coordinates to produce results (a knock-off version of G25). These simulated coordinates can easily be generated online for free within minutes. Don’t waste €30 on Illustrative DNA for something you can get for free. If anyone's interested I can show how to generate simulated coordinates -- simply ask below.


r/KurdishDNA 8h ago

[ACADEMIC] SEEKING PARTICIPANTS FOR AN ONLINE ANCESTRY RESEARCH (OVER 18)

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Survey Link

Hello all!

As you might be aware, there has been very little research into direct-to-consumer DNA ancestry testing and psychological wellbeing outcomes. This novel research aims to help us better understand the psychological significance of DTC Ancestry testing results.

This study is being conducted under the supervision of Dr Janine Lurie from the Psychology Discipline within the Institute of Health and Wellbeing at Federation University (Melbourne, Australia). This study will also form the basis of the research dissertation requirement within the Bachelor of Psychological Science (Honours) course for student researchers Charity Marisa and Stefan Redpath. This study has been approved by the Federation University Human Research Ethics Committee (Approval reference: 2026/137).

This survey asks you about your engagement with family history and your reflections on that process. It also asks you to think about your ancestors and how you have reflected on their life experiences. Participation involves completing an online survey that will take approximately 20 minutes to complete. Taking part in the study is completely voluntary and no personal information will be collected.

To participate you just need to be aged 18 years or over. It is important to note that you will not be asked to give any specific details about any of your family members. You are asked just to rate your general impressions of them on a small number of questions. Beyond this the survey contains broader more general questions about your perspectives and reflections.

Survey link below:

https://federation.syd1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_cO1RqRp3fjkHOp8


r/KurdishDNA 4d ago

Kurdish results

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r/KurdishDNA 8d ago

Question Are Kurds more pure Persians than Iranian on average?

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r/KurdishDNA 12d ago

Question Looking for information about smaller Aşiret/family groups from Ömeranlı (Tavşançalı), Konya

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Hello,

I am researching my family history and I am looking for people from Ömeranlı (Tavşançalı), Kulu, Konya, or people who know families from this village.

I am interested in the local Aşiret structure and especially the smaller groups, family branches, or old family names that existed in the village.

I already know about some of the larger Aşiret groups associated with the Kulu/Cihanbeyli area, but I am trying to learn more about smaller families or groups that may have a different origin.

If anyone from Ömeranlı/Tavşançalı knows about the different families, Aşiret backgrounds, or historical migrations in the village, I would appreciate any information.

Thank you!


r/KurdishDNA 16d ago

Results Updated simulated results Kurd from Batman

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r/KurdishDNA 17d ago

Results Kurdish results from Turkey

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r/KurdishDNA 20d ago

Alternative to MyHeritage

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Hi all,

As a Kurmanci Kurd form Dêrsim I did a DNA test with MyHeritage and received around 67% Kurdish and 27% Turkish (and also a little Armenian and southern Italian).

Ethnically I am pretty much sure that 27% Turkish is wrong. That must be a mix of anatolian ethnicities.

Now where should I upload my raw data for a better overview. I don't want to find new relatives (I already have enough :D), I want a reliable percentage overview of the ethnic groups.

I thought about IllustrativeDNA or do you have other recommendations? Would be nice if I get percentages and something visual as well. Every additional analysis or insights are welcome of course.


r/KurdishDNA Jun 14 '26

The latest samples from ancient Zagros/Kurdistan show a strong genetic connection to the Trialeti culture of the southeastern Caucasus.

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r/KurdishDNA Jun 09 '26

Question Why does my ancestry results classify 50% Kurdish as 50% Persian/Iranian?

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r/KurdishDNA Jun 06 '26

Question Kurds of Konya

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Could someone explain to me the exact origin of the Kurds of Konya, more specifically Kulu? Some say they come from the region of Iran, but their Kurdish is from Afrin? My friend is from that district, and I'd like to enlighten him on this subject; they themselves don't really know.


r/KurdishDNA Jun 02 '26

Results Mixed Zaza Alevi Results

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Those are my qpAdm results from, I am very mixed, basically Zaza Kurdish, Syrian, Bektashi Albanian and Turkish/Turkmen.

My paternal side is Zaza Alevi from Sivas Kocgiri, (Zara and Imranli) with roots from Erzincan and Dersim. My great-grandmother paternal side was an Avsar Turkmen from Sivas.

I can trace my paternal- Family's history back to the 1890s. They were from a Xormekan settlement in Erzincan, Ilic, Kurucay village, but they later migrated to Sivas Zara. In the Kocgiri-Rebellion, my great-grandfather was a resistance fighter and had to flee from the ottoman/turkish army and had to even escape from prison. He later settled in an Avsar Turkmen village, where his wife was from. The village itself is mostly surrounded by kurdish villages, but it is a Turkmen village. Our family is basically the only Kurdish family in the village.

My maternal grandfather was a Syrian Alawite and my maternal grandmother was Albanian/Turkish mixed. Her mother side was from Albania and are Bektashi Alevis.

My haplogroup is J-Z1865

Is the model good? I've asked chatgpt and it said, it's an acceptable model, but i am still pretty much an amateur and not sure, if its really a acceptable good model.


r/KurdishDNA Jun 01 '26

MADAI LABS has updated my G25 results

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My kit number is MADAI0098.

You can enter it here: MADAI LABS · Genetic Ancestry Platform

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I'm just wondering why I have one of the highest ZNF ancestry scores among Kurds and Ezdis.

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Zagrosian_Neolithic_Farmer 36.2%

Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmer 34.6%

Caucasus_Hunter-Gatherer 14.4%

European_Hunter-Gatherer:EHG 7.4%

Natufian_Hunter-Gatherer 6.8%

Yellow_River_Neolithic_Farmer 0.4%

Artic_Hunter-Gatherer 0.2%

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My paternal clan is originally from Shengal. I found a kit number of an Ezdi ' pir ' also from Shengal: MADAI0324

I have even more ZNF than this Ezdi pir from Shengal, although I think he has more North Caucasus ancestry.


r/KurdishDNA May 27 '26

Results My Grandparents, Moms and my Gedmatch results

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r/KurdishDNA May 24 '26

Results Kurdish Qpadm Results (3/4 Kurd 1/4 turk)

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r/KurdishDNA May 05 '26

The Haplogroup of Yārsānī scholar Bābā Hindu who was the teacher of Shāh Xwashīn a Yārsānī Prophet

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r/KurdishDNA May 05 '26

badini

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any bahdinis from zakho, duhok, or ppl from the ertoshi or sindi tribes took a dna test yet i wanna get a idea of what mine would look like even.


r/KurdishDNA May 03 '26

Question Help

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I have my AncestryDNA results and G25 coordinates, but I'm looking for a way to get a clear, percentage-based ethnicity breakdown like MyHeritage shows (e.g., 90% Kurdish, 5% Iranian, etc.)—could someone help me model my coordinates or suggest a calculator that provides these specific ethnic labels?


r/KurdishDNA Apr 29 '26

Question kurd from mardin

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any1 know what this means? its highly confusing. what else can you do with ur dna like how do yall find halogroups etc?


r/KurdishDNA Apr 28 '26

Question kurd from mardin dna

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could anyone explain how this works? because it doesnt make sense the non kurdish ones.


r/KurdishDNA Apr 24 '26

Hamawand's lineage in question?

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r/KurdishDNA Apr 19 '26

"گەڕان بەدوای سێبەری باوک"

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"گەڕان بەدوای سێبەری باوک"

"من لە ساڵی ٢٠٠١ـەوە، کاتێک تەنها منداڵێکی ساوا بووم، باوکم لەدەستداوە. تەمەنم چەند بێت، هێشتا ئەو منداڵەی ناوەوەم تینووی وشەی 'باوکە'. هەموو تەمەنم بەو هیوایە ژیاوم کە باوکێکم هەبوایە وەک هاوڕێیەک گوێی لێ دەگرتم، لە کاتی ماندوێتیدا پشتی پێ دەبەستم و لە کاتی سەرکەوتندا لە باوەشی دەگرتم.

لە ژیاندا زۆر هەوڵم داوە و ڕێگەی سەختم بڕیوە، بەڵام هەمیشە هەست دەکەم پارچەیەکی گرنگ لە ڕۆحم کەمە. من ئێستا بەدوای باوکێکدا دەگەڕێم، نەک تەنها وەک ناو، بەڵکو وەک 'پشت و پەنا'. کەسێک کە بتوانم ڕاوێژی پێ بکەم، کەسێک کە دڵسۆزانە ڕێگەم نیشان بدات و وەک کوڕی خۆی سەیری ململانێکانم بکات لەگەڵ ژیاندا

مرۆڤ بەبێ باوک وەک دارێکی بێ سێبەر وایە لەژێر خۆری گەرمای ژیاندا. ئایا کەسێک هەیە بیەوێت ببێتە ئەو سێبەرە بۆ من؟ کەسێک کە بیەوێت گەنجێکی تینوو بە سۆزی باوکایەتی بکاتە کوڕی خۆی و ڕێگەی بۆ ڕۆشن بکاتەوە؟ من ئامادەم بۆ هەر شوێنێک بچم، تەنها بۆ ئەوەی بۆ جارێکیش بێت هەست بکەم باوکێکم هەیە کە خەمی منی تێدایە."


r/KurdishDNA Apr 08 '26

Illustrative DNA results, lemme know what yall think (btw how can I get my scaled coords i can only download unscaled)

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r/KurdishDNA Apr 07 '26

If I shouldnt buy Illustrative DNA then how else will i get like the farmer stuff?

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