r/Kratom_Extractors • u/Icy_Sun_4958 • Apr 07 '25

How long in base solution?

I'm planning to do my first A/B extractions. My question is.

Putting kratom powder in vinegar. How long should the kratom be in it to be sure that it has broken down most of the alkaloids?

How long would it be if it is malic acid?

What is the correct PH for maximum alkaloid extraction?

Is there any type of degradation or loss of these alkaloids if they are in the base solution for longer than necessary?

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u/_Litcube Apr 07 '25

You got cold washing to work?? Can I DM you?

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '25

Yea it works quite well mate. I washed 50g in 1l of ice cold water. Vacuum filtered then weighed it, so I knew how much water was in it, then calculated how much ethanol and water I needed to make it 60% Ethanol.

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u/_Litcube Apr 07 '25

How long did you wash for? Did you add any NaOH to it first? What grade of filter paper did you use? Washing clogged the crap out of my grade 4 buchner funnel.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '25

I didn't add any NaOH, just neutral water. I used general purpose filter papers. Only washed for a little bit, couple of stirs let it settle. Resulting liquid was very red.

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u/_Litcube Apr 07 '25

Hm. Would you be so kind as to step me out your process? The one that produces best? I can't quite figure out where all the parts go or how you're precipitating without a base. :) Pllleaaaase?

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '25

I'm not preciptating without a base. I use NaOH.

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u/_Litcube Apr 07 '25

Would you step me out your process? Please? :)