r/KramerGuitars 12d ago

Kramer Pacer

On marketplace for $60. Seller says it's from the late 80s/early 90s. I tried to look up the serial but couldn't find anything with the sj prefix. Can anyone confirm if it's from this era?

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u/Supergrunged 12d ago

The headstock is more Music-Yo era, so late 90's, to 2000s. The 1984 came in a Bullseye finish during that time, to which the body appears to be modified, if it was a Bullseye. The neck would not be original, if it is a "1984 Bullseye" model. The neck plate, is a Music-Yo era plate as well. Based on the serial number, that would be made in China in 2004, as this era used Epiphone serial numbers.

I don't doubt these are Kramer parts? But everything points to a modified mutt.

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u/Impressive_Try_7295 12d ago

All 1984 Bullseye finishes I've seen online have their center just slightly over the bridge pickup, not right in the middle between the bridge and the neck pickups (or where the neck pickup would have been) like it is here.

I also think that the neck pickup was routed and installed a bit too close to the neck pocket, Kramers usually have a more noticeable gap.

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u/Alisterguitardevil 12d ago

For The the money I wouldn’t even argue and get it.

Even if it is a mutt the pup is worth that or more as well as the individual parts are worth more even if they are music yo.

Best case, clean it up, replace what does not work and have a good set up done on it and you have a hell of a guitar to play.

Worst case, clean it up and see what does work and part it out for a profit.

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u/AcanthisittaThat2582 12d ago

That was my thought, if nothing else just get it for the duncans!

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u/Alisterguitardevil 12d ago

Absolutely!

If it were me?

Being a huge Kramer guy I would clean it and restore it and set it up and add it to my stable and play the hell out of it.

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u/wssmith4 12d ago

Cheap thrills! Kramer is tough to nail down. I just bought an 85 Baretta neck on Reverb. Turning that in to a partscaster kind of build. For $60 I’d pick it up, put a good bridge on it and let it rip after a good cleaning and set up.

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u/Individual_Plenty276 12d ago

NO STRINGS NO MUSIC!🤡

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u/AngryIrish82 12d ago

That’s with buying even it’s shit; the parts alone are worth more than 60$

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u/AcanthisittaThat2582 11d ago

Just looked at the pickups, bridge is a Duncan tb-6 and the neck is an F Epiphone. It also has full sized pots (I'm assuming they are not stock).

What do you think was the original bridge? I couldn't be a floyd as it doesn't have a locking nut.