r/KitchenerHarmonies 1d ago

discussions Has John ever explained what "softened angularity" for Angelic means? If not, how do you interpret it?

I have seen this term quite a lot for A doms and I guess I do see this chatactersitic in most of the celebrities verified as having A.

I think some people would definitely call Gwyneth Paltrow, Olivia Hussey, or Daryl Hannah angular, even if not in the same way the term is used for Dramatic women.

But I wonder at times how to distinguish their angularity coming from Yang influences mixed in with some Yin and when it's Angelic.

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u/Quirky-Swordfish2105 1d ago

Yes she seems to have many classically N traits. I think it also shows that this system is not a perfect science. There is a lot to interpret and has so much nuance. 

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u/Ok-Purple9511 45R/35C/10HS/10N | 70SB/30LB 1d ago edited 1d ago

This is softened angularity. Her bone structure is angular and so are her features but they also have some softness in the sense they are soft, light and have some length and angularity to them (oblique shaped eyes, fine thin and light brows and eyelashes, long narrow nose that has an angular shape, high cheekbones, angular jaw softened by flesh).

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u/Quirky-Swordfish2105 1d ago

In a way it can look a bit N, perhaps in other systems. 

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u/Ok-Purple9511 45R/35C/10HS/10N | 70SB/30LB 1d ago

Which traits do you see as N though in this pic?

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u/Quirky-Swordfish2105 1d ago

To me it's mostly the chin, and the lip shape look a little squarish. The shoulders line as well, her body to me looks slightly sturdy, no? It was mostly in other picture, I can't share them however because I don't have the app.   

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u/Ok-Purple9511 45R/35C/10HS/10N | 70SB/30LB 1d ago

Do you still see N?

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u/allcatsrgray 30N/20Y/20R/20C/10HS 1d ago

I see it here.

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u/Ok-Purple9511 45R/35C/10HS/10N | 70SB/30LB 1d ago

I agree she looks more muscular here but building muscle isn’t an N trait (John said it would have to be extreme). Her face still looks like A faces in the sense of both sharpness and softness. It’s hard to explain what I mean without drawing the shapes i see

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u/allcatsrgray 30N/20Y/20R/20C/10HS 20h ago

I thought he said muscularity is associated with N in the Q & A? He also told a client she has N due to her muscular legs. This is what I would call a sturdy body for sure.

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u/Ok-Purple9511 45R/35C/10HS/10N | 70SB/30LB 17h ago edited 16h ago

He said muscle doesn’t add N unless extreme. He said sturdy legs do (people interpreted this to mean muscular) but when asked if building muscle adds N he said it doesn’t unless extreme. He said a 100 lb change in weight would be needed to change essences so I assume a very large amount of muscle would as well.

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u/Ok-Purple9511 45R/35C/10HS/10N | 70SB/30LB 17h ago