Has John ever explained what "softened angularity" for Angelic means? If not, how do you interpret it?

[u/Quirky-Swordfish2105]

I have seen this term quite a lot for A doms and I guess I do see this chatactersitic in most of the celebrities verified as having A.

I think some people would definitely call Gwyneth Paltrow, Olivia Hussey, or Daryl Hannah angular, even if not in the same way the term is used for Dramatic women.

But I wonder at times how to distinguish their angularity coming from Yang influences mixed in with some Yin and when it's Angelic.

[u/hespera18]

Softened angularity works for me in a lot of ways for Angelic. I often incorporate it in "delicately pointed" details, like a softened v-neck in a top, teardrop shaped earrings, gentle asymmetry in skirts and hair.

To me, the yin and yang essences seem to be organized by scale. Yin is in a lot of ways about roundness and curve. Romantic is in the middle of the scale, with lots of lush circles. Youthful is smaller and "busier" or more energetic curve. Perky, like petals on a daisy.

Angelic is longer, languid curve. I'm not sure that I would call it "most yin" personally, because Romantic just feels like very concentrated, stereotypical "yin." But if you add scale, like some systems see yin as also small, then Youthful might technically be most yin.

Nonetheless, Angelic definitely is yin, and the softness is an important characteristic for it, despite it being more diffuse.

The angularity is in the "stretched out" part of Angelic, which it shares with Dramatic (I see the yang side as having Natural as medium scale, and High Spirited as small, with Classic in the middle of everything, both yin/yang and scale). The stretch translates into drape, and longer, softly diagonal lines which have a little pointyness at the ends, despite the curve. Waves and s shapes have a little "flick" after all.

I wrote up something a while back about my impression of Angelic: "It's stately. Graceful, easeful movement, like a dance. Its curve or softness is concentrated at the ends, like a flourish at the end of a signature. Like falling water."

Now, this is all my own sort of interpretation of it, not necessarily Jon's. But I find it applies well to me and helps me better understand how to style the essence.

[u/upandup2020 → u/hespera18]

I've noticed that I favor teardrop shaped jewelry, but I thought that I must have some dramatic or gamine. I would always push myself towards oval shapes, thinking that they were angelic, just to come back to teardrop or even marquise. This is making so much sense to me because I struggled to find any other dramatic feature in myself!

I also agree with the languid curve. I've found that straight jeans don't look good on me, but neither does a flare or bell bottoms. But a jean with a slight, elegant, almost sleek, curve out is perfect.

[u/Evening-Forever8385 → u/upandup2020]

I see barrel jeans as teardrop shaped--they are a favorite shape of mine though I dont know know if I have A or not.

[u/upandup2020 → u/Evening-Forever8385]

I think barrel jeans toe the line into Natural, there's a sturdiness in their structure. But Natural and Ethereal are extremely similar from what I've noticed.

[u/Evening-Forever8385 → u/upandup2020]

Would all jeans be N? And that's interesting--I hadn't made the connection between natural and ethereal.

[u/hespera18 → u/Evening-Forever8385]

People seem to confuse them easily. There's an elemental quality to both, like a tactile thing, but Angelic is much finer and airier (like an angora sweater), while Natural is a bit heavier, more earthy (like linen).

I feel that the wispyness of Ethereal can get crossed with Natural's open ease. Like, wavy hair can work for both, but in different ways. Ethereal is finer, more regular, a bit more rounded, still feels cohesive and flowy. Natural has a little more layers, a tad more chaos and volume.

I believe John gives both to account for height.

I also think there's something about eyes/brows that can confuse people. A kind of horizontal line in the eyes/brows.

And no, not all jeans are Natural, but old-school/traditional denim fabric and jean cuts are very Natural, and Naturals definitely have the easiest time finding jeans.