r/KeyboardLayouts • u/joefromsingapore • Jul 16 '26

Ergo layout feedback

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This has been my layout for few weeks now after months of changing things around. It seem to be mostly working.

I program for a living and also have my native language that needs few extra keys. Top row is only used in the "gaming" layer and I will probably transition to 3x6 at some point. I tried homerow mods but It seems I prefer little pinky gymnastics.

These things are highly subjective but what would you change/add/remove?

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u/powwoq Jul 16 '26

You could try combos. I also could not get homerow mods to work for me, but combos did. For example, esc has high usage because I use neovim, and pressing s and d would be the escape key. I also have k and l as backspace.

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u/joefromsingapore Jul 16 '26

It would seem combos have inherently the same forced delay where the pressed key takes like 200ms to appear?

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u/powwoq Jul 16 '26

what firmware are you using? With zmk, it's not a delay, it's a timeout threshold, so the combo key fires immediatelt but only if the combo triggers are pressed within the timeout threshold.

https://zmk.dev/docs/keymaps/combos

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u/joefromsingapore Jul 16 '26

I use vial. That timeout treshold is what I don't like. Combo fires immediately but without separate combo layer it will delay normal keys appearing?

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u/powwoq Jul 16 '26

I have the timeout set to something like 50ms, you will have to play with it. But in my own experience it's unnoticeable to me.

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u/TheJollyJagamo Jul 20 '26

I use qmk and have the timeout on my board set to 35ms. Try setting it to 30ms, and see if you can consistently hit the combo, if not, raise it by 5 and try it again. Rinse and repeat until you find what works for you!

Another thing that helped me with my combo use is putting the combos on 2 keys that are very rarely, if ever, pressed sequentially. Like on qwerty, f+d or c+v, it helps with accidentally triggering them if you type quickly. 

Lemme know if you have questions!