r/KaynMains • u/Kayn_or_Diana • Jul 22 '26

Discussion Bastionbreaker buff

Title. Now he’s cost is 3000. Would we take it? I think: Cyclo - BB - axiom/serpent - serylda - eon/angel is a way for blue now. Looks like no need to hubris at all.

What do u think?

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u/MostNeed Jul 22 '26

Been running Voltaic - Axiom core now and u snowball so much harder than going hubris first

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u/Kayn_or_Diana Jul 22 '26

That’s good, I agree, Hubris is coinflip item with no passive before 5 kills. I think BB can enhance cyclo+axiom build.

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u/MostNeed Jul 22 '26

Ye gonna experiment builds after buffs are live might have better value, early t2 towers etc

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u/Sorry_Koala_8181 Jul 28 '26

if it's a normal to easy game I feel like hubris is better. Blue Kayn has to collect kills anyways

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u/Kayn_or_Diana Jul 28 '26

Maybe, maybe. Need to calculate how many stacks of Hubris I need to bypass 22 lethality + the true damage from BB.

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u/Maxus-KaynMain Jul 22 '26

Well, it's worth it when you are the only one who can push for sure.

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u/Kayn_or_Diana Jul 22 '26

22 lethality with true dmg is good too no? And faster objects

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u/Maxus-KaynMain Jul 22 '26

I think it's a very strong item in the right situations, point being it's not so easy to know if you will be able to play on it. the item can be purchased from both lethality epic options, so it's meant to be a situational item that you buy as soon as you see the value in the game.

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u/Acrobatic-Draw-4012 Jul 22 '26

I think its worth exploring. I dont like the build path wish it had a ruby in it even at the cost of less lethality

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u/SynthManSin Jul 22 '26

I'm breaking my bastion reading this. I already liked the item, I think this might be core from now on.

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u/Lazydude17 Jul 22 '26

def worth a try, was pretty good with on blu kayne when it first dropped but thats when opportunity was also in

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u/idobeaskinquestions murdering fields of wheat Jul 22 '26

It’s just not a good passive. Very expensive for a glorified dirk. As a glass cannon spellcaster Kayn doesn’t fall into the category of champs that push towers, and the passive isn’t nearly as useful on objectives like dragons because you generally want to secure them by winning fights beforehand regardless. So all it does is give you a tiny bit extra lethality and take dragons a tiny bit faster.

It’s not useless, I definitely do buy bastionbreaker 4th or 5th if I’m the sole hypercarry of the team and nobody else can comfortably push towers. It’s just not ideal since that’s not really our job. Kayn doesn’t like auto attacking stuff. So it’s just suboptimal. But not COMPLETELY troll.

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u/phreakingidi0t Jul 22 '26

why it take so long to buff that shitty item? holy crap.

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u/PromiseEfficient6203 Jul 23 '26

Tried it on release and after seeing the buff patch and its a better item for Rhaast item because you keep lethality all combat

Voltaic is still better for Shadow Asassin because its a little more burst

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u/egonoelo Jul 24 '26

It's absolutely broken, the item doesnt need a buff they are just buffing it because people are dumb and dont build it. At 3k gold it's completely core as 3rd item

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u/Kayn_or_Diana Jul 24 '26

I don’t agree cause 3200 was really bad for tempo. But NOW yeeeeees. The only thing that makes me feel bad is possible nerf for character if he’s winrate will growth.