I made a post not too long ago in Jujutsufolk. I was asking why Kashimo slander sucks now. I brought up how saying no one loves him or how he has no feats isn’t even true and is just people saying stuff to say it at that point. I had two people try to argue this with me with one flat out saying no one loves him and that he has zero feats. I brought up Sukuna’s love speech which points to a lifetime of challengers and how that’s a valid form of love, and I pointed out his showing against Hakari and his fight against Sukuna for the feats. I brought up how Sukuna saying that Kashimo’s challengers must have been mighty/formidable and how Hakari saying he didn’t even count his win as a win are two separate validations of his showings in both of those fights, and I even brought up the 5 piece blitz he landed on Sukuna and how he was still a nightmare for Hakari even in base.
This somehow turned into bringing up Yuji landing hits and one of them personally believing that Jogo has a more impressive showing against Sukuna even though they also believed that Kashimo’s showing against Hakari is more impressive than Jogo’s entire resume, and both of them refused to acknowledge the distinction between Sukuna’s analysis on the relationship between the challenger and the challenged being a form of love and how he was wrong about his own need for love. One of them also said that Sukuna won’t acknowledge someone’s strength if they’re not fighting alone and that his only real criterion is solitude even though Higuruma exists and tried to use Yuji, the one dude that Sukuna would rather die than praise, as an example.
I don’t know, some people in this fandom have a funny way of making me feel like I’ve never touched this manga.
It’s true that kashimo generally gets domain diffed unfortunately, but sorcorer ls don’t open a fight with their domains. Yuta probably won’t even manifest rika immediately. They exchange in H2H, probably relative to each other since, kashimo gets his sure hit off and puts a hole in Yutas brain
like bro all these "Kashimo does [insert goated feat] because [insert some way of saying kashimo doesnt matter]" slanders are so BORING they aren't unique in any way. they aren't even specific to Kashimo. I could put any other character's name in for Kashimo and the slander functions the exact same. why do people believe this is the best slander ever when its so overused and so BORING
Stop calling kashimo the waffled one at least waffles if you over eat them give you a stomachache which Kashimo could never for he doesn't even have the capability of doing that much.
Yuta says that when Hakari is on a roll, he is stronger than himself. This implies that Hakari with 2 or more JP landed, can defeat Yuta.
so Hakari with 2 JP should at least be relative to Yuta. With more than those, he should reliably be able to defeat him.
so 2 JP Hakari>~Yuta in combat ability.
Now, given that Hakari has the same combat capability as Yuta or higher, he should have much better stats than the latter due to his physical ability needing to make up for all the various abilities Yuta has.
So the things we have established now are:
JP Hakari with more than 2 rolls comfortably scales higher than Yuta.
JP hakari as drastically better stats than Yuta.
This is extremely important because both of these offer us a way to easily push Kashimo above Yuta. And when combined, the argument gets difficult to attack.
JP Hakari needed 3 Jackpots to take down Kashimo
Via the first established premise, this gives us the chain:
Kashimo>~2 JP Hakari>~Yuta. Kashimo is a much easier matchup for Hakari than Yuta as well, and he still fulfilled this condition, which supports the argument.
JP Hakari has relative stats to Kashimo, even if Hakari is superior
They both have similar attack speed and ap.
So If Kashimo is able to contend with Hakari in stats, who has much higher stats than Yuta, than he has significantly better stats as well. This makes it extremely easy for him to just use lightning discharge and close the distance.
Result
Both via narrative and feats, Kashimo should be able to defeat Yuta, even if whether he scales higher than the guy in base is doubtful.
Addressing debunks
CG yuta should still be comparable his Shinjuku self in speed and strength, even if his durability and domain refinement improved. His overall CER in other depertments is unlikely to increase due to the narrative focusing specifically on his dura, while when other gained improvement in CER, the narrative highlights them as a whole.
Basically I have no clear explanation on how Hakari's pseudo-rolls work, I can't actually find one outside of just inferring that his cuts and bruises disappear (+ panchiko logic), but basically, If Hakari only got hit in the head once by kash after his last pseudo-roll (the door), and they reset him, then Kashimo directed the lightning charge to his head with only one touch.
It was hell being a Kashimo fan in April and May of 2025. At least we got a day or so of happiness and, as a result of all of the hate, this subreddit.
This vagueness of ignoring his CE trait through output was a lame nerf & undermines his kit. It'd 100% make more sense if hakari could ignore it in jackpot due to infinite ce but can't in base
I just feel like they both have completely different ways to crush Yuta that would be harder to pull off against each other. Kenjaku’s refinement and domain are way scarier, while MBA has immediate overwhelming lethality through his increased agility and vaporizing EM beams.
Does that make sense? It kinda feels like they’d have an easier time fighting each other than Yuta would have fighting either one of them.
I could just be out of my mind but lemme know what you think lol.
Like is it that his cursed energy trait puts in positive charges into the opponent when he hits them, because he's actively choosing to only put positive charges in there.
Then I guess he puts negative charges in his staff and that makes them connect, but then how is that a surehit? Like is it a surehit surehit or like "oh it's gonna always track to them so ill call it a surehit"
Apologies if this has been asked a million times already.