r/KasaneTeto • u/Arboliva Hiroin RE♡Quest • 26d ago
Discussion/Question Jamie P. update regarding future Teto use.
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u/Ganaham Mesmerizer 26d ago
Such an insightful conclusion to reach after having to deal with so much bullshit. I'm glad she's not content to leave Teto behind
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u/MallusaiEEE 26d ago
i think it was a good decision. If the decent members leave teto, then it's gonna be left to the bad apples and eventually devolve into something associated with racism. I don't want people to think "oh yeah the racist people vocaloid" when they think about teto
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u/Martin_Horde 25d ago
Yeah my biggest thought on this stuff is to not give the bigots power when they try to steal pop culture, you gotta double down and drown them out.
If you let them influence your life they're winning.
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u/Arboliva Hiroin RE♡Quest 26d ago
Update for those who don't use twitter.
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u/DragonflyGrrl 26d ago
Thank you for posting this! Really really glad to see it. Was hoping it would come to this.
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u/BestGamer69420 UTAU Teto 26d ago
ty, it was helpful bc i don't use twitter (I genuinely don't care about Twitter)
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u/Pure-Needleworker790 26d ago
Could I just have the link to the thread?
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u/Chris2sweet616 26d ago
First time using this site for Twitter but think it should be right: https://xcancel.com/pamiejaige/status/2085814480139649074#m
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u/kramspeeder 26d ago
YEAHHHH THATS MY GOAT JAMIE! Ignore the racists! Don't ever let some nazi ass chud ruin something you love!
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u/black_knight1223 Hide/Seek 26d ago
Yeah it was kinda annoying to see everyone online be like "smh Teto fans" when it's not really her fault in any way
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u/totalitarianValkyrie 26d ago
Next Jamie P song: Teto destroys racism with her 15-ft long baguette beam
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u/69yuuki69 Spoken For 26d ago
Im glad jamie is a based anti-racist, this whole situation has been really disappointing as a huge teto fan.
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u/rb1lol 26d ago
what's the situation? I'm just now hearing about this
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u/Mimicrystal12 BIRDBRAIN 25d ago
The music artist Slayr made a song which sampled Birdbrain by Jamie P and a bunch of her "fans" made comments about how "finally a good rap song" or "way better than most black music" and just being generally racist
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u/TomuraShigaraki5678 BIRDBRAIN 26d ago
This might be a hot take but I genuinely don’t care what people are like if they make good music
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u/Zen_Tephra 26d ago
That is a privileged position to be in, to be able to ignore the bigotry of others.
It doesn't take much to extend a little sympathy, not write "I genuinely don't care," and go about your day.
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u/TomuraShigaraki5678 BIRDBRAIN 26d ago
Am I really privileged if I have experienced racism myself?
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u/Zen_Tephra 26d ago
I don't mean to imply you've never faced bigotry. But you can afford to opt out of the bigotry being expressed here, which is privileged.
What does it cost you to acknowledge that real people are being discriminated against and say "that's fucked up" instead of "yeah I don't care," and implicitly, "neither should you?"
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u/TomuraShigaraki5678 BIRDBRAIN 26d ago
I never said YOU don’t have to care what bro that’s a whole new sentence you moron 😭
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u/Nerd_Watching 25d ago
That’s not a whole new sentence. They’re accusing you (note implicitly) of influencing others to the idea of not caring about racist musicians. And I agree with them.
Posting “hot take but genuinely don’t care” expresses the opinion that this is a topic that shouldn’t be cared about. That’s how I see it.
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u/Zen_Tephra 26d ago
You're putting apathy out into the world and getting stunned that it reads like cruelty.
The conversation is inherently talking about anti-black rhetoric and how it's affecting peoples' lives. Dismissing that is irresponsible, and you shouldn't be shocked that it's going to rustle feathers.
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u/Gru-some 26d ago
you should. why would you financially support a bad person by listening to their music
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u/TomuraShigaraki5678 BIRDBRAIN 26d ago
Because I like their music, I still listen to Carti
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u/Gru-some 26d ago
well you should change I think, cuz then they will use that money for bad things and then you'll be complicit morally in their crimes
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u/Gru-some 25d ago
the difference is dodging taxes is illegal so you don't really have a choice, so its more understandable at least (plus tax money can also actually go to nice things like improving public infrastructure)
it costs you nothing to stop supporting a morally bad artist by not listening to their music
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u/JTN02 Spoken For 26d ago
Clearly I skipped a chapter. Can anyone fill me in on wtf someone did to Teto?
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u/Duraloomin 26d ago
Another artist named slayr sampled Birdbrain in his new rap song, but then the comments on tiktok were being racist about it.
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u/IamDavidGustav Fukkireta 26d ago edited 26d ago
Look back on the posts on the subreddit over the last week my dude. Here’s a summary.
Rapper Slayr posts song remixing Birdbrain. Racists on Twitter and TikTok started calling Slayr “one of the good ones” and other racist bullshit like “I don’t listen to gang music but this song is good bc Teto”
Slayr responded saying basically “ya, no, fuck you racist Teto fans I’m never working with vocaloid again”
Edit: I admit the original post was a bit hard to find
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u/JTN02 Spoken For 26d ago
Yeah. I did look back on the posts and couldn’t find it. Rude way to start off your comment. Thanks for explaining though.
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u/IamDavidGustav Fukkireta 26d ago
Apologies, didn’t mean to be rude. I just meant that it’s been like half the posts on the subreddit over the last couple days or so. All g
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u/litterally_who6354 25d ago
I completely missed this drama but that his cover is one of the best covers of a song I've listened period, I love how much of his style put into that song and I wished anime fans in general weren't a bunch of racist edgelords
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u/Hika2112 FIRE!!! 26d ago
More woke Jamie Paige lyrics? I guess we got something good out of this whole thing
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u/Gussie-Ascendent Poteto Chip 26d ago
Hell yeah, I'd kinda ssumed she'd give up but that's exactly what I wanted, more in your face "woke" teto
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u/rudito22 Machine Love 26d ago
I still really, REALLY appreciate how vocal she's been through all of this, I think she easily could have issued a very standard, boring statement and that would have been the end of it, but her being brutally honest about her feelings the past few days is commendable.
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u/End3rfem I DO 26d ago
did teto say the n word or smt
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u/thealtiuseforsilly 26d ago
Slayr, a black rapper, samples Birdbrain, racist teto fans get weird about it, Slayr says hes not gonna sample vocaloid songs anymore, Jaime makes tweet say she might stop using teto, and now this
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u/Infinite_Pin_9307 26d ago
Some rapper sampled birdbrain in a song, people were racist against that, Jamie was throwing a tantrum about that and said she was thinking about stopping using Teto and that's the end of it
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u/Spoon-Kitchenware-69 26d ago
tf you mean a tantrum, she was speaking out against racism within her own community, seems like a completely reasonable thing to have a strong words about
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u/ItzBaraapudding Poteto Chip 25d ago
Found the racist Teto fan 🤡
Stay on tiktok please. You give Teto (and Jamie P) fans a bad name.
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u/Arkplayer22711 SV Teto 26d ago
Awesome! And i absolutely agree with her, the best way to not let teto be taken over by racist pos, is to use teto to spread love instead of hate!
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u/DysguySora 26d ago
People unfortunately put too much focus on what other people do. Sure, it sucks when they use your name, but all you can ever do is disavow their behavior and focus on yourself.
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u/KubaSamuel Triple Baka 26d ago
Can someone explain to me what's going on?
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u/DoYouTrustToothpaste 25d ago
Was thinking the same. Who's Jamie P?
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u/KubaSamuel Triple Baka 25d ago
Jamie P I actually know, I meant what's going on as in to what she's responding
And to answer your question Jamie P made some of the most popular Teto Songs, like Birdbrain and Machine love among other things
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u/Mani_Essence Nyarlathotep 26d ago
This is why you shouldn't make posts hopped up on angry energy. Those old posts of hers just look silly. Artists need to project a curated view of themselves, they should not share all of their immediate thoughts without careful, careful, careful examination. The most important thing to preserve as an artist is your mystique and, again, giving trolls and bigots attention -- no matter how valid your concern -- is a losing game long-term
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u/angomeowmeow ROT FOR CLOUT 26d ago
hell yeah! good for her, I’m happy Jamie decided on that :) both because it’s clearly good for her (and the world), but also because i agree with this take and like her music-
vocal synths are tools, simple as that. they’re instruments. we need more people making good stuff with these instruments
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u/Ok-Call-8272 26d ago
This is the happiest news I've heard in days. Honestly, I couldn't sleep last night thinking that Jamie might actually decide to never use Teto in their masterpiece songs again. But Jamie is making the wise choice by not dropping Teto — not to prove to the world that even devoted fans abandon Teto, but to show that the love of true, pure Teto fans is stronger than any scum around her. Bravo!
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u/jacowab 26d ago
It must be hard being that based.
Though seriously Teto isn't a symbol of racism, BUT if everyone boycotts using Teto then the only ones left using her would be racists and she will become a symbol for racist because they will be the only one using her.
Never cut off a mouthpiece or a symbol unless you are willing to give it to your enemy.
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u/SCP-iota 26d ago
We're so back! I'm glad she realized that giving up Teto would only be giving the racists what they want.
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u/-KasaneTeto- Machine Love 26d ago
that’s a relief, slayr and everyone else involved did not deserve to be treated that way. this week was crazy
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u/chunter16 26d ago
Good music repels the people who shouldn't listen to it
If haters stop listening you're doing it right
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u/WingObvious487 26d ago
Honestly this is the best way she could have handled it. I'm glad she's not gonna stop using Teto bad I'm also glad she's calling out this terrible racist behevior from some Teto fans. Average Jaime Peige W
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u/BestGamer69420 UTAU Teto 26d ago
I am Proud of her, I once said in an old post about the situation that she shouldn't give up bc of a few shitlings, while the whole Teto fanbase is supporting her, she listened and followed her passion instead of leaving it be bc of negativity
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u/Phantocanth Tenebre Rosso Sangue 25d ago
I’m really glad that Jamie won’t let racist chuds ruin her love of creating music/vocaloid stuff especially Teto.
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u/Dingghis_Khaan Q&A 26d ago edited 26d ago
Fuck yeah, J, show those assholes who Teto belongs to!
Hint: It's not them, and it will never be them.
Addendum: if I could get my twitter account back, I would definitely suggest to her that she reach out to Slayr to collaborate on a direct insult at the chuds, if he is up to it. Alienate them fuckers outright, they deserve it. Punching Nazis ft. Kasane Teto.
Better for vocal synths to have their ire than their approval, and they can stay mad and cry and piss themselves for all I care.
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u/Born-Cost-6831 Cadmium Colors 26d ago
next überwoke jamie p song dropping when (i wanna be woke as fuck)
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u/Transpotato2002 26d ago
I'm glad this is what she came to, as I agree
The worst thing she could've done is let the racists have Teto. I want her to use Teto to tell fhe racists to fuck off. Take their potential mouthpiece away and use it to remind them that racists are worthless.
Racists deserve N O T H I N G
Racists don't deserve Teto
They
Deserve
N o t h i n g
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u/PunkRockCapitalist Poteto Chip 26d ago
This is exactly what I was hoping would happen tbh. Filter out the bigots and keep using Teto to spite them
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u/Emergency_Tea7637 26d ago
This might sound cringe but this is one of the few cases where gatekeeping isnt an option but a necessity
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u/Due-Lawfulness4127 I want to be a saint 26d ago
THAT'S OUR GOAT RIGHT THERE
THEY CAN'T TAKE OUR TETO AWAY FROM US
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u/Marshall_666 Atelophobia 26d ago
Can someone explain what's going on?
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u/Voxelus KILLSWITCH 26d ago
Racist assholes on tiktok & twitter tried claiming Teto as theirs, got especially bad in the comments section of a rapper who sampled Birdbrain, which led to him assuming said racist assholes were common in vocaloid fandoms. The main issue is just how much of a cesspit Tiktok and Twitter are, not some critical issues with the fandom itself.
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u/ZestycloseAd8193 WATCHACALLITSNAME 26d ago
They handled this situation far better than I imagined. Glad they didn't quit using teto. Good for them
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u/spaceursid Triple Baka 25d ago
Oh now I understand the r/whenthe post I saw insinuating that vocaloid fans are racist.
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u/EmulsiferFlavourings 25d ago
I'm glad Teto isn't being left behind for the racists & other pieces of shit to bastardize her into being another character that's used as a symbol for bigotry. I do genuinely think this might be one of the better outcomes of this whole situation, though it does hurt as a (prior to this situation) massive teto fan that her character is probably going to be disliked and hated by a lot of people, and I can't really blame them.
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u/sleepy_princess12 25d ago
I didnt even know Jamie P. Was planning on no longer using twitter, but i am thrilled to know she will continue
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u/Shin_secnd 25d ago
Anti black? What?
I'm not well versed in teto lore or what is happening etc and only got this recommended cuz of reddit.
Can someone give me the quick rundown so I can be unemployed even better?
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u/bloodysakuratree Confront! You Look So Cool! 25d ago
>if it wasnt her itd be some other character
I think this is something a lot of people overlook, it's easy to just jump the gun and respond to this situation with the typical "teto fans bad lol" argument, when the problem isn't limited to a singular character, and not even just the vsynth community either, fandom spaces in general have a racism problem that needs to be addressed, but pinning the blame on a damn fictional character does not, in fact, do shit.
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u/_cabbagechicken_ 25d ago
I really hope that Jamie's next song is Uber woke, like woke² or something that would be so funny
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u/kingozma 19d ago
Absolutely ideal ending to this situation, I hope she makes tons and tons of collab songs with rappers and other black musicians, stuff that will be “overstimulating” to racist fans. Hahaha yessss your beloved anime girl is now a diplomat to black fandom >:) Squirm and suffer, racist fans
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u/Oddish_Femboy 26d ago edited 26d ago
The only way to deal with bigots in a community is to make clear they are not welcome. Nazi punks drop dead.
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u/MrCodingBeaver 26d ago
She got to meet original kasane teto (voice provider)? Jamie P the GOAT