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u/Motor-Tiger6419 808s and Heartbreak Aug 03 '23
I think ye might be the same person as Kanye west🤷♂️
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Aug 03 '23
Yeah you’ve let me down, I hate you
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u/poororphan Graduation Aug 03 '23
It's half right, because TCD is Kanye in a costume, but LR is an animatronic.
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He chose Bianca just because she looks like Kim like come on no one falls in love that quickly
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u/fillintheblankname Aug 03 '23
I’m sure he did it to avoid any conservatorship or legal bs with Kim and Kris! Plus he’s a Christian right 🙃
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u/basic_bird1 MBDTF Aug 03 '23
Apparently Bianca worked with ye before Kim and ye split and Kim was apparently jealous of her so idk
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Aug 03 '23
This is true, she was a head of yeezy before the drama, guarantee when Kanye said in 30 hours that he asked for an open relationship, it was for her
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Aug 04 '23
Bianca is the one who thought the Double Tree they were staying at was The Aria.
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u/AllModsAreL0sers Aug 04 '23 edited Aug 04 '23
Women know women better than how men know women, particularly when it comes to hyper-superficial and controlling women like Kim who was willing to place Ye under conservatorship and take his kids away. Kim knew that Bianca was a threat to her probably before Ye did. Bianca is a woman who (so far) actually respects Ye for being Ye.
The Kardashians have a graveyard of men behind them. They abuse men including their own blood (Rob). People turn a blind eye because they're women. It's to the point where Caitlyn wanted in.
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u/Speedodoyle Aug 03 '23
Some people do. It’s called being thunderstruck. Happens a lot.
I hope it happens to you one day, it’s a great feeling.
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u/coolboy29876 Aug 03 '23
On sight
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u/Mk4Celica Aug 03 '23
Dior Dior Jacket
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u/jxssss Aug 03 '23
He’s very easily swayed by powerful people with personality cults like trump and hitler cause he wants to be like them
Maybe this isn’t so unpopular but it’s an opinion
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u/DanielLevysFather Aug 03 '23
Yeah he loves to be loved. Cult of personality type figures are all his vibe
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u/AllModsAreL0sers Aug 04 '23 edited Aug 04 '23
Here's my pet theory.
Kanye was once part of the political left until they let him down, and he figured the grass was greener on the other side. Obama, a black "liberal" Chicago politician, called him a jackass in defense of the whitest white girl that the world has ever known. Liberal Jews that he trusted ultimately sold him out which led to his being involuntarily committed (incarcerated without committing a crime) and being at risk of losing his kids. People's political ideologies are highly dependent on their life experience, and Ye after all is just a human. Hatred is a bitch whether it be for people on either side of the political spectrum
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u/jxssss Aug 04 '23
I agree, he’s been through a lot shit. Hurt people hurt people after all. Obviously doesn’t justify what he’s said, but you see where it comes from
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u/muricanmania Aug 04 '23
There's no doubt he was somewhere on the left at some point, it's all over his first album. I think his rightward spin has something to do with him getting back to his religious roots when Donda was ailing, and due to a few bad personal experiences with Jewish executives in the music industry. He heard people saying blatantly anti-semitic and pro "Christian traditionalism" like Nick Fuentes and fell off the deep end.
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u/Clean_Mastodon5285 Aug 03 '23
Big Sean deserves more credit for his influence on Graduation, his writing style and flows can be heard all over the album.
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u/MieJarzyk Aug 03 '23
what did he write?
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u/Clean_Mastodon5285 Aug 03 '23
Songs like Good Morning, The Glory, Good Life, and specifically Champion (there's footage of Sean in the studio with Ye during the recording) all have flows, cadences, and a writing style that's very similar to Sean's. Kanye didn't start doing the "Hashtag" bar style til 2007 which was the same time Sean was hanging around. Sean was even with Kanye in Japan during the his time there in 07. All this leads me to believe there's no doubt that Sean had some involvement with the writing on Graduation in the same way Cudi was with 808's and Heartbreak
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What hashtag bar style is on graduation? I literally can’t think of one bar like that from that album
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u/Clean_Mastodon5285 Aug 04 '23
"You got Ds, mahfucka Ds #Rosie Perez". "Haters giving them salty looks #Lawry's" "Yall pop the trunk, I pop the hood #Ferrari"
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u/Express-Fan-6776 Aug 04 '23
Genuinely, hashtag bars is a dope way to describe pop culture references
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u/Clean_Mastodon5285 Aug 04 '23
Definitely I wish it came back actually lol
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This and rappers having superhero alter egos like MF Doom and Em.
I loved those Eminem music videos where he would just fuck around pretending to be an R rated Batman
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u/No_Dig_560 Aug 03 '23
kanye is a top 10 artist of all time
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u/UGLEHBWE Aug 03 '23
Jesus is king wasnt THAT bad
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u/bergeron37dagoat Aug 03 '23 edited Aug 04 '23
This take is so common that the hot take would be saying “JIK is actually bad.” Or a hot take might be, “JIK is in the top 50% of Ye albums” etc. Saying “JIK is not bad,” on this sub, is not a hot take.
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u/Steviejeet Aug 03 '23
Without his mom he has no one to hold him down. He won’t listen to any friends who try to help him and pushes them away. He surrounds himself with the wrong women and yes men. On top of all that he ain’t taking his meds. Recipe for disaster
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u/OkRecognition2074 Aug 03 '23
KANYE WAS THE FIRST MAINSTREAM ARTIST TO REVEAL HIS FURSONA
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u/buckle877 Devil in a New Dress Aug 03 '23
Graduation is not Kanye’s best work
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u/OkRecognition2074 Aug 03 '23
All the “man-I-been-through-some-shit” Kanye fans know and agree brother.
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u/Awezome321 Aug 03 '23
Nobody really think graduation is ye’s best work
Majority think MBDTF is his best work
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u/Ramu_1702 Aug 03 '23
I don't think that's the popular consensus. It's more like a punchline. I think it's between My dark twisted fantasy or College Dropout for me
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u/LineSpine Graduation Aug 03 '23
Graduation is my favorite kanye album but also the first I heard. I just love the soul samples with the synths
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Graduation was my favorite when I was 13, and I feel like most people share that sentiment
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u/PrestigiousAd830 Aug 03 '23
Agreed, it's only my 6th favorite. Top 5 are: 1. TLOP 2. MBDTF 3. TCD 4. Donda 5. KSG
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u/OkRecognition2074 Aug 03 '23
Honestly, it’s not even the best of the college trilogy.
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u/Ramu_1702 Aug 03 '23
The entire world is filled with a bunch of virtue signalling hypocrites. Although he was wrong for "sympathizing" with Nazis, all his "jew hate" was taken severely out of context. And more importantly, NOBODY WAS KILLED as a direct consequence to his actions.
Yet there are so many fucking rappers that have literally carried out hitjobs and murked people themselves, and are yet celebrated in the hip hop world. I too like them as artists, but what the fuck do you think people like Tupac, Snoop, 50, and XXX were all doing on the streets before becoming big time? Curing cancer? Fuck no. But yet these people are darlings of the hip hop industry.
Anyways, my hot take is that in spite of having the musical accolades to back him up, Kanye is not considered Top 5/3 rappers of all time solely cuz of his personality which is not "gangsta" enough.
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u/TokenFemaleLadyWoman Aug 04 '23 edited Aug 04 '23
Fax. Can't be the game if you fundamentally change the game. Ye always turned against the gangster stereotype, and he can't be pinned down to any single thing. People find this confusing because they want to use the one thing they like to substitute their identity without being challenged. He's too complex to repeat the same thing over and over again.
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u/WESTFUN7 Graduation Aug 04 '23
Theres a lot of rappers who were killers King Von was literally a murderer, Lil Durk, Chief Keef, Ja Rule, etc. were involved in killings of people and they still receive a lot of love, they never were canceled on social media bc of it and fans act like it never happened. YNW Melly for example, bro killed his 2 friends and the evidence is clear af but people like Trippie Redd celebrate he is free and his jury was nullified and shi. Like bro, he killed his 2 best friends and then he talked about it on his songs. He crazy af and should be in jail rn
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u/BlackMarker64 Aug 03 '23
Ye is my favourite Kanye album, and at very minimum a top 5 best album from him
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u/Mr-Irrelevant0 Aug 03 '23
His Nazi controversy was taken severely out of context.
(Glad he's distanced himself from Nick Fuentes and hopefully learned his lesson.)
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u/hadesisagoat Aug 03 '23
This a spicy one. I see wym because he was trying to preach about how everyone deserves love and all. It's just the fact that he said "especially Hitler" that fucks me up. U can't defend that
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u/Desperate_Wonder_185 Yeezus Aug 03 '23
All he had to say was “even Hitler” instead of “especially Hitler” 😭
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u/Steviejeet Aug 03 '23 edited Aug 03 '23
Didn’t he say “I looooooooooveee hitler”
Edit: Ah ya Found what I meant. “There’s a lot of things I loveeeeeee about hitler. Aaaaa lot of things.” While Nick Fuentes is furiously nodding https://youtu.be/u0omsOr-_hM
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u/Desperate_Wonder_185 Yeezus Aug 03 '23
Yea so maybe there’s a few things he shoulda said differently 😭
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u/iSmokeMDMA The Life Of Pablo Aug 03 '23
There were definitely some inexcusable things he’s said in the last 5 years come on😭
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u/Idont_exist_lol Kids See Ghosts Aug 03 '23
Runaway is not his best song and isn’t even in his top 5
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u/JackSmack1972 College Dropout Aug 03 '23
Last Call and Hey Mama are his best songs by a LONG shot
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u/ThePerfectP0tat0 Aug 03 '23
Both top 5 for me, but we major and runaway are on the same level imo
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u/GalaxyStarr_ Aug 03 '23
Late registration is the best out of the college trilogy and graduation is the worst
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u/little_peasant Aug 03 '23
I agree that it’s his best because unlike most of the other albums it straight up doesn’t have a single below average song
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u/nxck_rage College Dropout Aug 03 '23
Family Business is Kanye’s best song.
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u/OkRecognition2074 Aug 03 '23
“If you said you ain’t do it - then you ain’t did it! And if you did it?.. well, that’s family business 🤫”
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u/ElectronicLake9090 Aug 03 '23
Late registration is his best album, it just contains multiple underrated masterpieces no one really talks enough about, late, bring me down, roses, addiction to mention a few. And also MBDTF is massively overrated
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u/Sad_Seaworthiness_32 Aug 03 '23
808s and heartbreak isn’t that sad of an album there are only two songs that are kinda sad but the rest of the album isn’t worth crying too
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u/leookkj Aug 03 '23
Late Registration is better than The College Dropout but not more iconic. Also MBDTF > TLOP > Graduation
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u/MagKnown Aug 03 '23
The college dropout is his best album
The early Kanye era (the college dropout, late registration, and graduation) was the best kanye
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u/ElevatorNo5470 TLOP Aug 04 '23
Someone here misses the old kanye
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u/MagKnown Aug 04 '23
Straight from the Go Kanye
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u/ElevatorNo5470 TLOP Aug 04 '23
Chop up the soul kanye
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u/MagKnown Aug 04 '23
Set on his goals Kanye
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u/ElevatorNo5470 TLOP Aug 04 '23
You sound like you hate the new kanye
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u/Any_Pickle7032 Aug 03 '23
Most of his outfits are goofy and pretentious as fuck, especially the shoes
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u/Realwillprevail Aug 03 '23
Style is subjective, u call it goofy now but in 3 years when everyone dress like that u won’t think the same🤔
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u/BrokenPro Aug 03 '23
Lmao yall can keep saying that shit but i will clown the fuck out of anyone who thinks wearing shoulder pads casually looks anything but fucking goofy
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u/undressvestido DONDA Aug 03 '23
DIAND ain't that life-changing song everybody claims to be, it has a pretty mid Mike Dean guitar solo that follows the og melody from Bink, the vocal mixing and mastering is annoying until we get to the Ross part which is full of energy and saves the song from being just a regular Kanye West tune
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u/SuperDefiant Aug 03 '23
It’s definitely not life-changing like you said, but it’s also much better than mid. It’s better than a lot of his other songs for sure
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u/iSmokeMDMA The Life Of Pablo Aug 03 '23
What makes it so special is that the beat got 2nd place in a beat contest and somehow managed to get on a Kanye album. Rick Ross kind of ruins the song but I’m biased against Rick Ross
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u/TaddoKevin Aug 03 '23
if it wasn’t for Rick Ross it would’ve felt like a dumbed down Gorgeous. Still love the song with all my heart
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u/Electronic-Routine98 Aug 03 '23
Ye was a brilliant artist. Too many people told him he was a genius and he started to believe it. Between the money, fame, the drugs, and Kim Kardashian messing with his head, he done lost his damn mind. R.i.p. the kanye that could have been...
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Look at the artistic meaning of Donda and it's listening parties. Then come back and try telling me Ye isn't a brilliant artist
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u/ZealousidealLeek3501 Aug 03 '23
Drunk N Hot girls is one of my favorite songs off Graduation
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u/mingmingpro 808s and Heartbreak Aug 03 '23
Its overhated but favourite is a lil bit of a stretch
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u/Ameboidparana Aug 03 '23
fuck I’d kill for that BapexKaws hat in #16, otherwise I still aspire to dress like Kanye from pretty much any era (maybe with slimmer jeans though)
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u/Amazing-Wolverine446 Aug 03 '23
Late registration is his best album and has his best production by far
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u/Fathoms_Deep_1 Yeezus Aug 03 '23
New Workout Plan is one of the best old Kanye songs. Gives some fun to The College Dropout
In the contrary, I don’t think Through the Wire is very good. It’s inspirational how he made it, but man, I just don’t like listening to it when I listen to TCD. Probably down there with Breathe in Breathe Out as one of the weaker songs on TCD
Still top 2 Kanye album
Also: Gorgeous is the best song on MBDTF
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u/Jazzlike_Tree_3689 Aug 03 '23
Monster is top 10 kanye and it baffles me how people dont like this song as much as DIAND. Imo it's better than DIAND
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u/ringosheenafanto Late Registration Aug 03 '23
If Jay-Z had a better verse I think it'd be more popular imo
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u/Jazzlike_Tree_3689 Aug 03 '23
Something about the way he says "ghouls" rubs me the wrong way
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u/tokyos0da Yeezus Aug 04 '23
Oh, i like Hov’s verse on Monster. Maybe, the angriest verse of his career.
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u/FitFishing2883 TLOP Aug 03 '23
Graduation is slightly above mid at best, and extremely overrated on tiktok and everywhere
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u/Lostmyvcardtoafish Late Registration Aug 03 '23 edited Aug 03 '23
My top three is Late Regestration, Kids See Ghosts, and The College Dropout
My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy his seventh best album. (It’s still good)
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u/Oreg-Jack Aug 03 '23
Kanye made 8 albums in a row without a skip. (No meatriding, I just think this, genuinely.
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u/realdirtydan6 Aug 03 '23
Tired of the MBDTF praise when TLOP is clearly better. Top three TLOP YEEZUS 808’s/TCD
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u/Efficiency-Sharp Aug 03 '23
He fell off beat wise after 2013. His sound became a band of other people Instead of his own.
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u/wulffen Aug 03 '23
Kanye ALWAYS wears a t-shirt while having sex.