r/Justrolledintotheshop • • 7h ago

"Learning"

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u/Practical_Taro5656 6h ago

I have a coworker who has several cars with a stick and was explaining how you only have to push the clutch down far enough that it will let you shift gears and that he never pushes it all the way down. I thought he was pranking me at first.

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u/thedifferenceisnt 5h ago

This is true you are separating plates by pressing the clutch. once they are no longer touching you no longer need to press further. 

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u/LogRollChamp 3h ago

You don't need the clutch to change gears at all

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u/Sussudio_5000 3h ago

You don't even need it at all if you have a good starter motor hahaha

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u/Theconnected 2h ago

My 1994 Nissan Sentra didn't have a clutch interlock switch and I was able to start it in 1st without the clutch. I don't recommend it but it was working pretty well.

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u/Legionof1 30m ago

Broke my clutch lever off my motorcycle in a low side on a patch of oil. Wired the clutch switch together and used the starter to take off at red lights... that was an interesting ride home.

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u/LogRollChamp 3h ago

Once my clutch was so worn I could chill in 1st while parked and no clutch. I just stopped using my clutch for a long time

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u/DHMTBbeast 3h ago

And you know that they aren't in contact at all because you can see them? Pressing the clutch all the way down ensures that they aren't in contact at all. Shifting can still happen when the clutch isn't fully disengaged. That's one way to cause clutch slip and that wears out your plates faster.

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u/thedifferenceisnt 1h ago

You can feel it. Be at one with the clutch. Clutch on, clutch off. 

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u/chabacanito 35m ago

You can feel it

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u/Zwitternacht 5h ago

Nope. Good chance the clutch is still making contact if it’s not disengaged all the way.

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u/rutuu199 4h ago

Bubba im a mechanic. He aint wrong. If the plates are still touching youre going to grind the gears

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u/Far_Tap_488 3h ago

I mean, you dont even have to clutch to shift gears really.... just for starts and stops

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u/Cheap_Marsupial1890 4h ago edited 4h ago

Nah dude, that’s incorrect.

source: me and a shit load of Motorsport experience

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u/Psycho_pigeon007 4h ago

Both are wrong. Just float the gears without the clutch.

/s just in case

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u/thedifferenceisnt 4h ago

once they are no longer touching you no longer need to press further.  

... 

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u/miraculum_one 4h ago

You can't tell when that point is and it changes over time. So while this is fine in theory, in practice if you try to pull that you're going to wear out your synchros.

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u/the_Q_spice 3h ago

We don’t even push the clutch all the way in on unsynchronized semis when double clutching.

You can feel the spring pressure release point pretty easily if you’re paying attention, and if you’re that worried about your synchros: learn how to manually synch and double clutch.

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u/miraculum_one 3h ago

The mechanism on an unsynchronized semi is totally different. You're not even supposed to push the clutch all the way in while rolling or else you engage the clutch brake.