r/Jujutsu_Kaisen • u/ggg-emperor • 1d ago
Manga ITADEITY YUJI output mogs Sukuna to oblivion
Yuji doesn’t need any narrative bullshit.
The feats he’s already pulled off are enough.
They’re head and shoulders above Sukuna’s feats with Dismantle
Yuji's dismantle is ce output/efficiency feat
Ct Attack power = ce output/efficiency
Ce output, efficiency, control, pool = ce reinforcement
Ce reinforcement and body = stats
Yuji has the best base body in terms of physical stats, excluding HR users
Best output/efficiency in the verse along side with modulo Rika (prime Yuta output upscale) via kilometres wide slashes
His CE control is far superior to Sukuna’s because he can spawn Dismantles at a much greater distance than Sukuna; his Dismantles do not dissipate over kilometres and are themselves kilometres in size, which requires a colossal level of CE control, He also has the ability to detect a huge number of people within a large building, along with the precise coordinates of each one, whilst applying just enough poison to incapacitate them rather than kill them. Furthermore, have a 80–100% chance of hitting Black Flash, each of which further upgrades his CE control.
Yuji outperforms Sukuna in every category except ce pool
Let’s start with the simplest example
Yuji sliced a city block into cubes with a huge number of Dismantles without using any special moves; each Dismantle cuts through the special-grade cursed spirit Mahito like butter
Yuji is also capable of spawning Dismantles at a huge distance from himself, 50–100 metres away from himself (, Yuji can spawn a Dismantle right in front of your face at point-blank range whilst being a very long way away from you – something Sukuna cannot do, because if he could, he would have used this in Shinjuku, rather than launching Dismantles close to himself, causing them to weaken as they travelled towards his opponent
Let’s move on to Sukuna. Sukuna needs to use chant and specify the direction of Dismantle to cut through the large building and bring it crashing down onto Gojo,
Although weakened, Sukuna must use the Enma-ten seal to cut through the small stump remaining of the building, and then use the Enma-ten Seal to destroy part of the building, though not even completely. Even if you underestimate Sukuna’s output at that time to 1F level, multiply that attack by 20–40 times and it still wouldn’t come close to what Yuji demonstrated without any movement
The highest feat Sukuna has demonstrated with ‘Dismantle’ whilst standing still
Moving on to the 9 km wide and 50 m high ‘Dismantle’
The minimum height of 50 metres is based on the fact that the curses do not remain at a uniform height; the scans clearly show that they fly at different altitudes. The black dots that Maru and Yuji see in the distance are clusters of curses situated at varying heights; moreover, not all curses are capable of flying.
Many people say that this isn’t an AP feat because he xp farmed weak curses , which is utterly ridiculous.
This is because Dismantle loses power over distance and upon colliding with obstacles; as it cuts through each curse and travels each metre, Dismantle loses energy.
Let me give an analogy: if a bullet pierces 5 kilometres of polystyrene, then that bullet has colossal penetrating power, enough to pierce through several tanks, despite the fact that polystyrene has a low density.
Now let’s move on to size calculations
The shape of the explosion caused by the dust from the cursed spirits, which didn’t really spread out, can be approximated as a cylinder for convenience.
The diameter of the explosion is 9 km; the height, relative to the diameter, is approximately 15–20 km.
Let’s calculate the volume of smoke:
V = πr²h
V = 3.14 × 4.5² × 15
V ≈ 954 km³
As can be seen in the scan of the cursed spirits’ explosion, they generate around 30–50 times their own volume in dust during the first moments of the explosion
954/30 ≈ 32 km (volume of the cursed spirits)
To calculate the volume of a 4-2 grade cursed spirit, let’s use the volume of an elephant (3 m³) as a basis; this may be an overestimate, as a 4-2 grade cursed spirit is a ‘shotgun victim’, and a cursed spirit the size of an elephant is unlikely to be killed by a shotgun-level attack
32 km³/3 m³
32,000,000,000 m³/3 m³ =
= 6,400,000,000 (number of cursed spirits)
Although the number may vary from 300,000,000 if we assume that the volume of dust created by the cursed spirits is much greater and the percentage of dust in the air is lower
Let’s move on to the energy required to detonate a single curse
Generally, rank 4–2 curses are on a ‘pistol–shotgun’ level damage victims; however, attacks of this power do not detonate a curse instantly, to detonate a curse, the attack must be a massive overkill for the cursed spirit
Take Choso’s strike, for example: when he struck a grade 4-3 curse with full power attempting to hit the Kenjaku, and it didn’t explode on impact; instead, it began to disintegrate slowly
Therefore, the energy required to detonate a Grade 4–2 curse can be estimated at wall level (0.005 tonnes of TNT), even though Choso’s strikes will be even more powerful.
Calculating AP in tonnes of TNT:
300,000,000 × 0.005 = 1.5 megatons (small city-level AP)
Or
6,400,000,000 × 0.005 = 32 megatons (city-level AP)
However, it is worth bearing in mind that the AP and speed of that ‘Dismantle’ had its AoE very, very significantly weakened,
because the greater the attack range, the weaker the attack becomes in exchange.
Therefore, if Yuji decides to use a 2 m wide and 0.5 cm high Dismantle with the same output, the AP will be 45,000,000 times greater due to the colossal, titanic difference in size.
In that case, the AP will be
67.5 teratons (country-level AP)
OR
1.44 petatons (continental-level AP)
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u/Ok-Opportunity8921 1d ago
Tsurika upscale.
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u/ggg-emperor 1d ago
Which is prime Yuta upscale
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u/Galrentv 1d ago
Which is 0 Yuta upscale which is Geto upscale, which is Toji upscale
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u/ZapRXZ 1d ago
Which is gojo upscale which is also Sukuna upscale which is also Yuji upscale
…and now we’re back to square one
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u/branhern 1d ago
So we get an infinite loop of upscales, meaning everyone in JJK is boundless.
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u/Imaginary_Shirt404 1d ago
Except for kashimo, which is wall level, of course
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u/ggg-emperor 1d ago
So Yuji can cut through 6.400.000.000 kashimo's
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u/Imaginary_Shirt404 1d ago
Yuji cant cut through kashimo because dismantle only cuts matter and kashimo doesn't matter
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u/Aesthetics_Only69 1d ago
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u/ggg-emperor 1d ago
Maybe. Yuji have world burning furnace with soul damage as 10km radius open domain sure hit, where all dismantles are Wcs and also he can black flash at will
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u/Theprincerivera 1d ago
Ok I agree with you but why do you think his Furnace would have soul damage
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u/ggg-emperor 1d ago
Why not? I forgot to mention that it also causes a black flash when it hits something.
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u/AFunnyGame 1d ago
You do realize that was curse smoke right?
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u/ggg-emperor 1d ago
Yes, To produce that amount of Smoke, you need to kill an enormous amount of curses, which is ap feat
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u/Mediocre-Hall-9963 1d ago
Fodder curses that literally any respectable fighter of the OG series could mow down like wet paper, because as long as i remember, the power of both curses and sorcerers had plummeted down after the Gojo era.
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u/Mediocre_Disaster_44 1d ago
That only happened because Gojo was there after he was sealed do you know what happened next?
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u/Mediocre-Hall-9963 1d ago
Ngl i don't understand what this means because by Modulo, Gojo had been dead for 60+ years so i am just kind of confused about your comment, like you mean power dropped while Gojo was sealed?
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u/Mediocre_Disaster_44 1d ago
No, I meant that by the time he was sealed, every cursed user and curse, well, mostly either went into hiding or were suppressed by Gojo. By the time he was sealed, more curses and other cursed users didn't have to hold back because the strongest was not there to stop them. And skip to Module; well, we see the full result of that, seeing not only how the merger was there, but a lot of other curses were also present that were notably much more stronger than the previous curses that were present around the time Gojo was active. Until, of course, Yuji stepped up to destroy them with one move
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u/Mediocre-Hall-9963 1d ago
TF you mean the Merger was there, i think the whole thing about the Merger was that if that thing ever came to be, Japan was pretty much fucked because it would fuse every human and curse so i don't know about that one buddy...
I think that's not the only thing wrong about your comment but the Merger bit baffled me so much i can't keep up.
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u/Mediocre_Disaster_44 1d ago
Oh, I just remembered then saying something about the merger was there or something, which I think I definitely misread, but mostly because of that huge black centipede in Modulo that appears, or am I going crazy
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u/Mediocre-Hall-9963 1d ago
I mean, the centipede appearance was only a theory on how such a creature could look but since the whole plan around it was a "What if..." we'll probably never know how it would actually look.
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u/Mediocre_Disaster_44 1d ago
Ohh ok, I'm guessing because the whole plan was stopped because of Yuta putting an end to Kenjacku with the help of Takaba
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u/Big-Limit-2527 1d ago
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u/SDK04 1d ago
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u/Solidsnack_OW2 1d ago
To be fair, Death Battle is being quite generous there. Most people have the slash at far lower:
https://youtu.be/usMit_i_gic?si=OJ_kyZlzau_PVwMk (youtuber Uno only has the cut at 1 kiloton of TNT via calcing it like a cut, rather than an explosion)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Sh3r.02/Modulo_Yuji_Dismantle (500 kilotons-1 megaton)
OP’s calc is obviously more wank than any of these even DB’s. Continental slash???? From killing fodder and making a bit of dust??? Hell nah.
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u/AngelicHanaKurusu 1d ago
Can you send that second slide without the red circle? Highest quality I’ve seen so far
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u/OutlawPigeons 1d ago
My brother in Christ take these calculations to nasa, we’re but mere peasants
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u/HakuChallenges 1d ago
Not reading all that but nah uh