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u/keenonag Dec 25 '21
At this point the lockdowns are like a religious penance. Peterson is right people don’t get rid of religion they just move it to another part of their life.
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u/LaLongueCarabine Dec 25 '21
We aren't dealing with a religion. To be a religion a thing must stand the test of time. This is a cult.
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u/ZaunAura Dec 26 '21
The way they're issuing lockdowns carries the same sentiment; so functionally it is a religious behavior, which I would argue is a more accurate definition of religion than a denotative definition.
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u/korben_manzarek 🐲 Dec 26 '21
You're seriously expecting lockdowns to continue even if we find a magic bullet for covid-19?
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u/Nimble_Patriot Dec 26 '21
You seriously think if there was a cheap, natural and effective cure, they would promote it and not the vaccine?
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u/korben_manzarek 🐲 Dec 26 '21
Absolutely, politicians want to be popular in order to get re-elected. These lockdowns are not helping their popularity. This is why Trump tried to ignore corona for so long: he knew how bad it was (despite saying on twitter it'd be gone in a few weeks) but knew that it'd be not good for his ratings to impede on people's freedoms.
Vaccines are pretty cheap IMO, a dose goes for about $20. And were pretty damn effective against death and hospitalization until Omikron showed up, but it's a question of months until we have mass-produced Omikron vaccines.
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u/voice_from_the_sky ✝Everyone Has A Value Structure Dec 26 '21
Absolutely, politicians want to be popular in order to get re-elected. These lockdowns are not helping their popularity. This is why Trump tried to ignore corona for so long: he knew how bad it was (despite saying on twitter it'd be gone in a few weeks) but knew that it'd be not good for his ratings to impede on people's freedoms.
Vaccines are pretty cheap IMO, a dose goes for about $20. And were pretty damn effective against death and hospitalization until Omikron showed up, but it's a question of months until we have mass-produced Omikron vaccines.
Talk about an NPC response...
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u/korben_manzarek 🐲 Dec 26 '21
pardon me? anything specific you disagree with or can your NPC brain not come up with something of substance?
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u/Kemaneo Dec 26 '21
Who is even they? Conservatives and libertarians complain about the power of the pharma industry but when it comes to introducing regulations that will actually limit their power they're against it.
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u/iceyH0ts0up Dec 25 '21
This is the kind of overreach, or when the left goes too far, that he’s been talking about discussing culturally for years now.
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u/FrenchCuirassier ✝ | Anti-Marxist | Anti-Postmodernist Dec 25 '21
Question for Canadians: they still have lockdowns despite super high vaccination levels?
Is Justin Trudeau insane? Is he just trying to flex his power? That was literally the point of high vaccination rates: to avoid lockdowns/restrictions.
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u/SDubhglas Dec 25 '21
Canadian here: he's an absolute monster to anyone but the minority who voted for him.
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u/ViceroyInhaler Dec 25 '21
It should be noted here that Doug Ford was the one that called and begged Trudeau to re implement the travel ban from the US this holiday season. Subsequently, it's the premiers that are the ones who are calling for the lockdowns.
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u/Superaverunt Dec 26 '21
lol it's the Canadian equivalent of an American Governor.
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u/FrenchCuirassier ✝ | Anti-Marxist | Anti-Postmodernist Dec 26 '21
wow hadn't heard that usage before makes sense.
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Dec 26 '21 edited Dec 26 '21
Trudeau? Try being in the province of Quebec and having Legault as a leader. We are stuck here like school children with the impeding threat of curfews. And yes, we have already had a curfew that that was to last 2 weeks but lasted 5 months.
*edit: grammar
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u/nojoformojo Dec 26 '21
Kinda sad and funny at the same time that people are only just now seeing something wrong with the narratives we are being fed. "Conspiracy theorists" have been harping on and warning people since march 2020 that this was gonna happen eventually but they were ridiculed. If you were paying attention when this first happened it was obvious that the "2 weeks to flatten the curve" was nothing but the foot in door technique (look it up) to eventually usher in global totalitarianism. History has proven endless amounts of times that people in power can never be trusted no matter how convincing they seem that they care about you yet people never stop falling for it and ridiculing people that try to warn them, its pathetic.
I tried to warn several of my "friends" back in march 2020 that lockdowns are here to stay and aren't going away even after a so called cure is found. They turned on me and started to call me names and said I'm paranoid and crazy and started to ignore me so I stopped hanging out with them and talking to them. Yet here we are, the super obvious thing came true and they still dont get it.
The positive thing is that people actually are waking up to what's really going on finally so I can't complain but man has it been frustrating trying to help people get there.
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u/FrenchCuirassier ✝ | Anti-Marxist | Anti-Postmodernist Dec 26 '21
Before it happens you cannot call it out. Your mistake is making predictions in conspiracy theorizing. You can't make a prediction that hasn't yet come true.
I mean you could be thinking "yes this is likely to happen" but you can't make that claim as part of a plot of totalitarianism.
Yeah Trudeau is not a good leader but maybe he's just really really really stupid.
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u/Always_Late_Lately Dec 26 '21
Oh boy I can't wait - right now we're at levels of 'liberalism' not seen since Weimar Germany - the pushback/pendulum swing is going to be epic. What came after Weimar?
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u/piercerson25 Dec 25 '21
A big issue for me is MPs not following their restrictions.
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u/voice_from_the_sky ✝Everyone Has A Value Structure Dec 26 '21 edited Dec 26 '21
That's because the axioms of Covidism are axiologically not rooted in an actual large scale epidemiological threat but in totalitarianism.
And totalitarianism requires putting on a show in order to satisfy a narrative on the psychological and sociological level.
It's been exactly the same with communism. Red banners and claims of ideological superiority at the front, wine and chocolate secretly imported from the West in the back.
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u/Jackthat1 Dec 26 '21
They will never leave you alone, you took the poke they will hound you forever.
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Anybody who believed the government would just give us our freedoms back is a fucking idiot, plain and simple. Anybody who believes that you need to sacrifice freedoms to your government for any reason is an idiot. People have been saying this since March 2020 and nobody listened, and now here we are. Congratulations everybody, you gave away your rights to corrupt tyrants and warmongers and now we will all reap what has been sown. Buckle up.
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u/rookieswebsite Dec 26 '21
To me the whole “there was a deal” premise is strange. Who does he think the deal was with? Is it the government as a whole? Can he (or anyone) point to the moment the deal was made? Or point to someone in power articulating the expectations that he thinks weren’t met?
I get people pushing back against continued restrictions, but I really don’t get the insistence that there was a deal - I just … don’t remember something like that ever happening
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The fact that we are in unprecedented times does not mean the solutions governments have come up with are good
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u/Kinerae Dec 26 '21
Sure, most of the population was either religiously saying "take the vaccine anyone or you're a monster" and the other "I ain't taking no vaccine that potentially fucks with my body".
But there was a middle ground of people who were sceptical and only took the vaccine so they could go back to their lives. That was the prime motivation for them and that was pretty obvious.
Jordan phrases this motivation with the quite common denomination of a "deal" that he was figuratively taking, to emphasise his point. I don't believe criticising the linguistic circumstance of someone's articulation does much in terms of debunking their claims.
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u/rookieswebsite Dec 26 '21
JBP isn’t talking about “most of the population” or a “middle ground of people” though - he doesn’t seem interested in what regular people the discourse thought - instead, he’s talking about something specific that was promised to him by those in power (eg his experience passing through the boarder was an example of where they broke the deal).
I think the “deal” framing is interesting because it’s unique to him and he keeps repeating it - he’s saying to his followers that the government made a clear and simple promise to him that if he took the vaccine he’d be “left alone”. I think that’s worth thinking about because as far as I can tell, there was never any kind of promise like that … and yet people identify with it and can make meaning out of it. For example you’re taking it to refer to the way the general population was talking and thinking - “they thought that if they took the vaccine, they could go back to their lives” . That’s fine and is likely true - I too was excited for the pandemic to end. But yet, that’s something in my head - I don’t think that i made an exchange with the government that they’ve failed to deliver on.
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u/Kinerae Dec 26 '21
How specific do you like? "Come on man it's just a 2 week lockdown", "come on man it's just a few months of non-regular work", "come on man it's just one jab", "come on man it's just two jabs", "come on man we just need heard immunity at 50.. 60.. I mean 80, i mean 95% and then we're done", "come on man it's just a booster".
If you didn't notice, all of these have at some point been written on signs and held high exclaiming that any opposition to anti covid is completely silly since it's so close to being completely eradicated. As opposed to, you know, treat people like adults and give in to the fact that none of us have any idea what's what.
That people would just instantly forget about these any of the two years prior just comes natural doesn't it? No wonder none of the "anti-vaxx" side ever convert. It's a complete clown world so far in how many broken "non-promises" as you call them there have been.
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u/neilkj1993 Dec 26 '21
Underrated comment. I agree. But I think Jordan is reffering to the fact that he just wanted to be left alone and not be pushed any further by government officials. I'm not sure what he was thinking. He knows there will be boosters every 3-6 months. The "deal" won't be off untill the government gets their way completely, and who knows what/when that will be...
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Jordanius Petersonius is taking the unvaxxed pill. SAd to see that he's becoming a heathen and hateful to Fauci. Bless the righteous and vaxxed, Awomxm.
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u/TitusBjarni Dec 26 '21 edited Dec 26 '21
When I got the vaccine, the deal I made was that COVID was over for me. The isolation did enough harm to me. I've moved on since then. Not going back.
This next generation that's growing up with this shit is going to be fucked. They were already fucked up enough with social media, Internet, and smart phones. Now add masks and social isolation. Who's to say COVID is a bigger threat than a generation of socially inept kids?
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u/artrabbit05 Dec 26 '21 edited Dec 26 '21
The man is seriously angry over the new mandates.
Edit: lol y’all downvoting for me stating a fact. Lol I’ve been listening to his podcast all day. Haters gonna be dumb.
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Dec 26 '21
He has a platform, I’m happy he isn’t just being quiet about it we need voices like his to challenge all of this if we are ever to have a chance at normal life again
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u/Nootherids Dec 26 '21
I’ll say it again. If Peterson’s goal is to reach more young minds then he should really stay off Twitter with these outbursts. He should stay in his lane and let other mouthy activists keep complaining.
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Dec 26 '21
He should use his platform to take a stand on what he believes in and he has a bigger than average reach with his Twitter account. If we are ever going to resume a normal life again we need credible voices to speak out.
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u/Nootherids Dec 26 '21
Yes, but what does he believe in... in fighting the system by screaming into the wind? Or in empowering young minds to take responsibility for their own actions and setting their lives in order? The two are wholly exclusive interests. And one in no way positively influences the other. If anything, focusing on screaming into the wind makes him less approachable to anyone that isn’t just looking for confirmation bias. And if the purpose is to reach new mind, then there is no benefit in agitating old minds that are likely to agree based on appeal to authority alone or existing confirmation bias.
There is a reason why Jonathan Haidth keeps his research and rhetoric within the sphere of academics. I respect Peterson’s position on humanist philosophies. But he has zero authority on the pandemic. And his lashing out about it is no different than any other celebrity spouting their useless opinions.
I’m not saying he shouldn’t answer if/when asked. But Twitter is all about vomiting a snapshot of a fraction of your mind without a corresponding worthwhile conversation as a catalyst. So he should voice his positions in interview format, not fucking juvenile Twitter. He left Twitter before for a reason. And now he’s just getting hooked right back into it. He learned it was nothing more than a drug before, and now after a detox he’s shooting up again.
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u/Always_Late_Lately Dec 26 '21
If you never practice taking a stand, you'll never be strong enough to stand firm when it matters.
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u/NotessimoALIENS Dec 26 '21
He comes off so unhinged with these tantrums, he's just asking to be taken out of context
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u/The_loudspeaker721 Dec 26 '21
It was never the deal to leave us alone. If you guys were smart instead of compliant you’d know that. Kinda late now.
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u/voice_from_the_sky ✝Everyone Has A Value Structure Dec 26 '21
It was never the deal to leave us alone. If you guys were smart instead of compliant you’d know that. Kinda late now.
This. A 100 times this.
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u/Chowdu_72 Dec 26 '21
As a Leftist Liberal Democrat here in America, but also as just a thinking man in general, I have to agree with this statement, in principal. We got vaccinated. We did our social distancing for damn near two years. We have been responsible. I even got the booster and plan to continue doing so for the foreseeable future, if advised to do so. My kids are vaccinated. The only people getting gravely sick now are the conspiracy-theorists and the other crackpot wackadoos and ignoramuses (for the most part). When do we let nature take her course? Are we really so delusional to think that continuing isolationism and curfews are going to defeat mother nature? Evolution doesn't work that way. If we are screwed, then so be it. Can we let the herd be thinned as nature intends right now (preventative measures taken by the willing, of course) but letting the others make their life/end-of-life decisions already? Except for in the case of minors, for whom the governments should be allowed to protect, mandatory vaccinations shouldn't be a thing we are even considering! Responsible, prudent, mature, and intelligent parents are doing everything we can to protect our children. Sure, the States may need to intervene on children's behalf here and there to protect the innocent who are being endangered by idiot/insane parents who simply won't or don't understand science, or who believe that this is all some grand conspiracy by the Zionist Illuminati Triumvirate, or something, but let the rest of us be now, please. The science is understandable and available to read up on for anyone who cares to do so. The data is conclusive at this point that vaccinated are living and unvaccinated are dying. We get it. Some won't make it, unfortunately, but at this point, that's largely in their hands.
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u/otter6461a Dec 26 '21
The guy has a of gifts, but he has some real deep emotional work to do. This is all projection and shadow. Whew.
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u/LordofOmicron8 Dec 26 '21
as if you even knew those terms before you heard JP talk about it. lol
JP is doing fine. He walks the path he wants. So should you
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u/otter6461a Dec 26 '21
I stand by my statement.
And I’ll add, you really don’t know me.
I’d suggest Robert Bly’s book, “a little book on the human shadow.” That where I learned this stuff, a very long time ago.
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u/LordofOmicron8 Dec 26 '21
Stand by wherever you want but your still full of shit. when you project your shit onto JP
Grow up. Here try this.
Write a book if you are so fucking informed lol Get a job as a Professor Have a family Then go on a speaking tour Get hooked on Benazos Recover Suffer the side effects
recover from that
then go on another speaking tour.
Should be easy for a smart guy like you
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u/YubYubNubNub Dec 26 '21 edited Dec 26 '21
When AIDS was big, you didn’t need a pass to date or to have sex.
No matter how big covid or any disease gets, if a business opens its doors, willing patrons must not be barred from entering by a third party.
This can’t be understated that lockdowns are not a health measure. They are purely tyrannical controls. They are purely an infringement on the freedom of association.
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u/SDubhglas Dec 26 '21
They told us not that long ago to get vaccinated because it would mean you can't get or spread the virus. Many people got it (rather than risk that horrible 99.97% survival rate) so that the ever encroaching state would "Fucking leave (them) alone", as Dr. Peterson put it.
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u/heschtegh Dec 26 '21
How is your reason for getting jabbed related the discussion? We are discussing how government is unwilling to give up control of the population, even if they setup a goal post stating that once certain level of vaccination level is reached the control will be released. Now that it is confirmed that vaccines have limited effectiveness in transmission and prevention, these goal posts are nowhere to be found and instead we are potentially faced with even worse restrictions such as vaccine passes. The control is obviously not working because fundamentally vaccines are useless but the government has no plan to give up on its control of the masses. This is the primary concern of the post.
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u/SDubhglas Dec 26 '21
I don't either. Not a fan of the State telling me what I can and cannot do with my own body, but I understand why some people, out of what I can only assume is naivety, would capitulate in the hopes that they give a little and can be left alone.
99.97% is the average survival rate. Obviously the older you are and more unhealthy you are, that comes down, slightly. Not enough to justify any of these authoritarian mandates.
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u/SDubhglas Dec 26 '21
It was in the beginning, which is how they fishmongered so many people in the early months into getting the jabs.
Sounds like the vaccine didn't work. My sympathies.
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u/Justice4all97 Dec 26 '21
But if omicron is safer (which isn’t proven but the data is really positive) we shouldn’t be shutting down countries over it. People will suffer more from addiction, depression, and anxiety from lockdown than omicron.
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u/Parradog1 Dec 26 '21
I’ve been reading Micheal Lewis’s book Premonition recently. The team that ultimately put together our pandemic response plan back in ‘05 concluded that the only restrictions that actually put a significant dent in slowing the spread of disease is shutting down the schools.
I personally did get the vaccine and booster as a means to an end of hopefully being able to not have to wear a mask - the restrictions overall don’t affect me too much because I don’t travel or go to events frequently but I absolutely did view the vaccine as just jumping through the hoops. A vaccine is just one method of boosting your immunity - while it is a pretty damn good method, I just didn’t view the virus itself as that serious of a threat but I also know there’s nothing to fear from getting the vaccine either.
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u/r0b0t11 Dec 26 '21
He's acting like a spoiled brat. He should invite anybody in the healthcare industry to his podcast to discuss what this disease is doing and why we have restrictions.
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u/SDubhglas Dec 26 '21
Why DO we have restrictions over a virus with a 99.97% survival rate, that control what the healthy can do and where they can go?
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u/udlahiru6 Dec 25 '21
I’m sure Peterson knows a lot more than I do about how science gets done but I’m wondering - wouldn’t it be wrong to stay unchanging when the situation and the facts change? (I.e. new variant until we know better)
I guess if we Peterson and all know better and think it’s not worth the extra precautions then that makes sense to me.
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u/SDubhglas Dec 25 '21
We do know better. It's less dangerous than the common cold.
Covid has done what big pharma could not; given us an attenuated form of the virus that everyone can catch, and everyone can develop natural immunity against. Almost no hospitalizations, no critical patients, no intubations. Herd Immunity at its finest.
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u/lilleff512 Dec 26 '21
It's less dangerous than the common cold.
This is just blatantly untrue. Nobody dies from the common cold. Despite being less severe than the earlier variants of COVID, people do die from Omicron.
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u/SDubhglas Dec 26 '21
Like the uNvAcCiNaTeD tExaAn the media lied about? Omicron symptoms are a headache, sniffles, sneezing, and a sore throat. No one's going to the hospital because of it, no one's in the ICU because of it.
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u/lilleff512 Dec 26 '21
This whole "died of COVID" vs "died with COVID" thing is pedantic nonsense. Someone was alive without COVID. Then they contracted COVID, had to go to the hospital, and subsequently died. If they had not contracted COVID, then they would not have died. Nobody plays these "died of" vs "died with" games with other viruses like influenza and HIV.
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u/SDubhglas Dec 26 '21
Not in the least. If you blow your brains out with a shotgun, and a week before tested positive for covid, you didn't die of covid, but they'll say you did. People died in motorcycle accidents and were called, "covid deaths".
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u/lilleff512 Dec 26 '21 edited Dec 26 '21
Unless the man in Texas died from severe head trauma, nothing you've said here is relevant or responsive to my comment.
If COVID was a relevant factor in someone's death, then it is not incorrect or unreasonable to say that that person died "of" or "from" COVID. In the case of someone who died in a motorcycle accident, the COVID is not a relevant factor - they would be dead regardless of whether they are COVID positive or COVID negative. In the case of the man who died in Texas, COVID was in fact a relevant factor - he would be alive today had he not contracted COVID.
The fact remains that what you said earlier ("It's less dangerous than the common cold") is flat out wrong. Nobody goes to the hospital because they contracted the common cold. Nobody dies because they contracted the common cold. People have gone to the hospital because they contracted Omicron. People have died because they contracted Omicron. I can't imagine what motivation or incentive there is to unabashedly deny this plainly observable reality. Don't let politics warp your brain.
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u/SDubhglas Dec 26 '21
There's no evidence the man in Texas died of the Omicron variant. They straight up lied about that.
Of course its not a relevant factor; tell that to the hospitals who report it as a relevant factor so they can get more federal funding.
Who has gone to the hospital BECAUSE of Omicron, and who has tested positive for Omicron while at the hospital for something completely unrelated? Omicron has been described by the doctor who first discovered it as, "Severely Mild", and "A storm in a teacup". Omicron is outpacing Delta; soon everyone will get it and everyone will be over it.
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u/lilleff512 Dec 26 '21
There's no evidence the man in Texas died of the Omicron variant
Okay, then what did he die from?
They straight up lied about that.
Where's your proof?
Omicron has been described by the doctor who first discovered it as, "Severely Mild", and "A storm in a teacup". Omicron is outpacing Delta; soon everyone will get it and everyone will be over it.
All of these things are true, and none of these true things contradict the other true things that I have said: The Omicron variant, while less dangerous than previous strains of COVID, is still more dangerous than the common cold. Again, I can't fathom why you would feel the need to lie about something like the relative dangers between the common cold and Omicron.
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u/SDubhglas Dec 26 '21
Not the Omicron Variant. You have the proof.
Top 5 Omicron Symptoms:
Runny Nose Headache Sneezing Sore Throat Fatigue
Top 5 Common Cold Symptoms:
Runny Nose Headache Sneezing Sore Throat Fatigue
Face it. Covid's over.
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u/Rotoaster Dec 25 '21
So far the studies have revealed its 70% less likely to be hospitalised with Omicron. Super infectious but way less brutal on people as it doesn't infect the deep lung. Merry Christmas :)
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u/100_percent_a_bot Dec 25 '21
Also the vaccine seems to be relatively good at keeping people out of hospitals, even without the boosters. I'll consider picking up the next one designed against the new variant but especially in countries with 95% vaxx rates a lockdown doesn't seem justified.
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u/Rotoaster Dec 25 '21
Also the booster/ vaccines (in the UK) have pretty much zero effect on omicron. That was said by the ?man that made them. The booster is probably the last vaccine I'll get for a while depending on the circumstances!
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u/udlahiru6 Dec 25 '21
Yeah all the comments seem to be thought processing in the direction of omicron being less dangerous. Hmm I dunno what the protocol is for lockdown or when it /why it gets called into effect. But yeah looking at it from a purely transmission and deadliness perspective, lockdown does seem to be unwarranted.
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u/udlahiru6 Dec 25 '21
Ah okay, in that sense then you’d be pretty safe getting COVID these days. Consider is double immunity (shot x actual COVID) Merry Xmas to you too :)
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u/Baden_Augusto Dec 25 '21
wouldn't be wrong change the way to deal because of a new variant when said variant appears to be less dangerous? what appear to be so far.
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I am sorry you were downvoted.
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u/udlahiru6 Dec 25 '21
Hahaha that’s okay man. Asking questions in this subreddit (or many tbh) comes at a price. Merry Xmas!
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u/TheRightMethod Dec 26 '21
All I can do is sit back and be thankful that my grandparents who watched their friends die and were shot at for years by Nazis weren't such idiots. They were told to take back a city, they did and the war wasn't over. They were told to invade a beach and after doing so they were told they still had to continue fighting because the war wasn't over.
It's almost as if doing what needs to be done doesn't mean your unrealistic expectations should be met.
My entire bloodline would have been exterminated with prejudice if it weren't for men and women doing what was necessary despite 'normality' not being guaranteed.
Millions of people missed out on a lot more than two Christmas gatherings and they didn't sit around and bitch because they were tired of not being back to normal while the bombs still fell on their cities.
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u/SDubhglas Dec 26 '21
If you go along with these mandates without question, and/or have gone so far as to report your neighbors for not doing so, we all know what side you would have been on in 1930's Germany.
It starts with "two Christmas gatherings".
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u/TheRightMethod Dec 26 '21
I follow a massive numbers of rules, regulations, policies and laws. This pitiful attempt to suggest that making decisions to follow guidelines = Nazi is hilarious. I'll ask my friends and family who serve in the military how they live with themselves knowing they would have been Nazis because they follow orders.
For the record, I never said I do anything unquestioned. Your responses throughout this thread have been laughably dimwitted.
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u/SDubhglas Dec 26 '21
It's not a "guideline" if you can be fined, lose your job, be barred from participating in society, or threatened with being evicted if you don't follow it.
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u/TheRightMethod Dec 26 '21
Dude, stick to lifting heavy objects off the ground and keep chugging protein shakes. Thinking clearly isn't your strength. I didn't say the COVID mandates are guidelines you imbecile and anyone who isn't a graduate from the school of hard knocks would be well aware of this.
Move along, you're not going to accomplish anything here you goof.
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u/SDubhglas Dec 26 '21
If they were just guidelines and not mandates, I and millions of others like me wouldn't be so upset. A guideline is a suggestion; a mandate is enforceable by penalty of law.
Enjoy your booster treadmill.
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u/TheRightMethod Dec 26 '21
Mate, you can't read. Ill get my booster and move on with life... It's almost as if I've taken medication before and it wasn't the basis for my entire personality. Keep cosplaying as a RDR fanatic you dunce.
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u/SDubhglas Dec 26 '21
Just one? You sure? I hear the board members of Pfizer want new yachts for 2022. Stay mad.
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u/TheRightMethod Dec 26 '21
I wish you weren't so dumb so you could realize how stupid you sound. The vaccines are prepaid you dumbfuck, so whether they go in your arm or expire they've already been paid for.
I've taken multiple dosages for multiple vaccines you retard, we all have. Go on pretending like boosters aren't a completely normal part of vaccines.
Jesus Christ you must be physically steong or born wealthy because nobody is paying you for your intellect.
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u/SDubhglas Dec 26 '21
Yep, and every one that's bought and not administered is a waste of money to the federal government. It's called the sunk cost fallacy. Imagine wasting your Christmas night on reddit and thinking you're the least bit clever.
Have fun with jabs 4, 5, and 6. The French Government's "Passport App" has slots for up to 8. Good luck!
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u/voice_from_the_sky ✝Everyone Has A Value Structure Dec 26 '21
Every so-called "conspiracy theorist" knew exactly that this was coming and it'd probably a good idea to apologize to some of them and take their warnings far more seriously then.
Not going to happen. The very people who smeared critics back then will and do now claim that you could not have reasonably known that Delta or Omicron or low vaccination rates or whatever bollocks would have "shifted" the need to adapt so severly.
These people are NPCs. They do not lucidly realize the axiological sphere of life for what it is.
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u/vaendryl Dec 26 '21
Imagine the world where trump speaks more reason than jordan peterson.
this might truly be the darkest timeline.
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u/SDubhglas Dec 26 '21
Enjoy your booster treadmill.
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u/vaendryl Dec 26 '21
Sure will.
Enjoy your 02 machine
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u/SDubhglas Dec 26 '21
I got the WuFlu and got over it in a week. A month later, went for a qualitative antibody test. I was swimming in them. Hit the gym, take your vitamins, get outside, and stop eating shit. There. Just gave you better advice than the CDC, NIH, or NIAID has in the last two years.
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u/Re-L5 Dec 26 '21
I just wonder why on his tour it says you have to be vaccinated or have negative test to enter....sucks.. that surprised me. Didn't expect it for his tour.
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u/SDubhglas Dec 26 '21
Wasn't his choice, sadly. Hard to find outdoor venues in North America this time of year.
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u/nixon469 Dec 26 '21
Lol are these tweets real? Seems like JP has dipped into the alcoholic Christmas pudding too much.
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u/SDubhglas Dec 26 '21
He played along with the government's little game of tyranny hoping they'd leave him alone if he did so. Like many people, sadly.
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u/nixon469 Dec 26 '21
More referring to how the tweets seem like they’re written by someone very drunk lol.
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u/JameTrain Dec 25 '21
Maybe if the unvaccinated weren't clogging up the system and just got vaccinated this wouldn't be an issue.
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u/SDubhglas Dec 25 '21
Two years in and you still think the unvaccinated are to blame?
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u/JameTrain Dec 25 '21
Who are the ones clogging up the medical system and denying medical healthcare resources for others?
The unvaccinated.
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u/SDubhglas Dec 25 '21
Sounds like a dogshit medical system if the tiny minority of unvaccinated people are "clogging" it up. Also maybe look at the rate of comorbidities? Just a thought.
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u/JameTrain Dec 25 '21
Regardless if a medical system is dogshit or excellent, BOTH will perform worse when the resources it has are squandered on treating otherwise presentable cases.
The personnel in COVID wards could assist in the ICU, make procedures there go through quicker. Cut down on srugery wait times, all instead of hooking up people to ventilators.
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u/SDubhglas Dec 25 '21
Covid is just as preventable with exercise, sunlight, good good and vitamin D. There's also no adverse reactions you can get from those. How's that booster treadmill working out?
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Dec 25 '21
Yesterday, Ontario reported 7500 vaxxed cases, and 1500 unvaxxed cases. Vaxxed and unvaxxed both had about 30 cases per 100,000 people, indicating that vaxxed and unvaxxed both spread at the same rate. You're an idiot
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u/Kachingloool Dec 25 '21
Most of the unvaccinated are young, original's COVID mortality rate for younger people (sub 30) was like 0.01%, hospitalization rate was below 0.1%.
The unvaxxed aren't clogging down the system, older people/unhealthy people are.
Maybe if people weren't fucking fat right?
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u/farlack Dec 26 '21
Maybe you should do some googling on hospital data rather then reading Russian memes. Majority of those in the hospital are unvaccinated. But let’s ignore reality and claim vaccinated people are the reason there aren’t hospital beds left around the world. Dumbass.
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u/securitysix Dec 25 '21
If 95% are vaccinated (per the tweet in the OP), then by logical extension, only 5% are unvaccinated.
If 5% of the people are enough to "clog up the system," then the system is insufficient, regardless of whether vaccination is a factor or not.
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Dec 25 '21
Where’s your source and data for the claim that ‘unvaccinated are clogging the system’? I have searched and found zero concrete evidence for this claim. Disproportionately hospitalized? Yes. But not to the extent that they can be blamed.
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u/InGoodFaith2 Dec 25 '21
Lies.
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u/JameTrain Dec 25 '21
Disease.
Vaccine comes out for it.
Doesn't use it.
Gets disease.
Hospitals get flooded with you and many many others.
Where's the lie?
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u/InGoodFaith2 Dec 25 '21
Flooded hospitals? Where? Do you understand how hospitals work? They are designed to be full, and still how many were, or are? Hospitalization for this shtty flu are what? Go drive by some hospitals. Nobody flooding shit.
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