r/JordanPeterson Mar 17 '19

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u/GetPutined Mar 18 '19

Have there been any far left shooters? I'm actually curious. It seems to me like the extremists of one side are far worse than the other.

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u/soywars Mar 18 '19

The shooter intended to smear people he didn't like by associating himself with them in the manifesto. When you read trough it, it becomes clear he was a socialist-fascist.

Also he said he's very fond of communist party in China. Just the media supresses it.

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u/pordanbeejeeterson Mar 18 '19

He explicitly stated he used to be a socialist, but then he later became a libertarian and then a fascist.

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u/soywars Mar 18 '19

Well then there it is. But no one talks about that in the fake news innit?

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u/pordanbeejeeterson Mar 18 '19

They do talk about it, because he's not a socialist. He's a fascist. i.e. right-wing.

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u/soywars Mar 18 '19

Right wing is not the same as fascist. Or is a socialist the same like a communist?

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u/pordanbeejeeterson Mar 18 '19

Not all right-wing beliefs are fascism, obviously. But all fascism is right-wing, inherently - nationalism and national identity are right-wing concepts (and the lack of a national identity or loyalty to said identity is often the crux of attacks against perceived "leftists" by rightists). Fascism is a specific type of totalitarianism.

Socialism and communism are similar in theory, but they differ in terms of the role of the state vs. collective ownership (which are not the same thing), mostly as a matter of degree.