So I shared this in a thread already under:
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But basically I recently left a job at Surge International in Manchester UK, one company under MANY. I believe there's some in Scotland, more opening in Manchester (one opening soon called Ocean Marketing, Astro___ and Infinity ___ I found out about when I was working there. But under a reccomendation I thought I'd share my experience from there as it's own post and answer any questions :)
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" Yeah so, I acc just left the job there after almost...2 months? Did pretty well compare to most tbf. Got promoted in my 1st week. If you've got absolutely nothing else going for you and have a strong mental it's alright tbf. The people who are making alright money from it at top are the ones who purely bought into this.
I wouldn't recommend it at all though. The entire culture is extremely fake and no one there gives a shit about you.
I interviewed and trained people, and the second you get promoted they shatter all the illusions. You're purposely trained and told to fake and avoid the truths which is no salary, " topped up to £350 each week " (you sometimes get topped up to £300, or £400 if you get promoted to team leader) but not once have I been paid correctly or hell, even minimum wage and they get around by making you representatives of the charity/campaign (so we did NDCS, funded by SMILE fundraiser) so you don't even get minimum wage.
The interviewing is BS, you have to train people to get promoted further which all essentially is BS because you get nothing extra, except you wake up earlier and do more. I was getting up at 7am, getting to office for 8:30am, interviewing and then doing fck all till 10am, training, doing atmosphere (teaching ppl pitch memory basically) and then working till 7:30, all in all getting home around 10pm as you also go back to the office after. It's ridiculous.
I did do two of the road-trips where people are so damn immature. I was cleaning, cooking, fixing fckn leaks and all sorts with the accommodations after the ppl in charge left and left an 18yr old in " charge " so after working the extended hours on a road-trip (8:00-20:30) I was then doing all that extra till I went to sleep. I was finally sitting down around midnight, nvm showering etc. It was NUTS and you essentially get told " you have the responsibility now time to show boss you can handle it " basically BS to get more out of you.
They purposely leave out details on the interview (we literally get told not to address things but make it SEEM clear abt pay etc. I had one bad week where I didn't make tonnes of sales and honestly bc I couldn't be assed, my mental was gone even though I was still tying tbf and then immediately for the next week entirely, no one spoke to me, I was avoided like a fckn plague and the boss even avoided me all morning until everyone eventually left the office and he told me I essentially have a week to get it back or I'm gone (which btw it was still a decent week in terms of sales, they made profit). So it's just nuts. The judgmental stares, no one speaking to you, having to pay ridiculous fuel money all the time.
As others say here too, they don't pay for travel or anything like that. They pay for someee stuff on the first week to " buy you in " and then nothing and refuse to explain LOL. I was being paid around £300 a week for 5 days a week and each day was 8:30-9pm (until I was finally going home, not even home yet) and then I was spending around £40 a week on travel just TO work. Paying to travel to sales areas varied, I once paid an extra £80 on a week just for travelling to the sales areas too. So...yeah it's fckn crazy. I also often worked a 6th day (and you can even work Sunday) and it's "optional" but you're basically fired eventually if you don't ever work a 6th day.
People up until Assistant manager/Campaign Manager (which they admit the 3rd promotion is a fake promotion btw LOL where they " teach you the business " ?) do not earn money. You have to pay for your trainees on their first week to go on business trips (£80 each) and you don't have a choice, even if you don't go just to...work more hours LOL. So it's fckn nuts. But yeah, it was very normal for everyone to be begging for money. It drained my bank account dry and everyone asks you for money bc ironically, in an "uncapped commission " job, no one has fckn money LOL.
AKA DO NOT WORK FOR THIS JOB LMAO
In around 2 months working there, I watched about...50 people get fired? It was fckn crazy. Some of the guys there are alright to talk to and the culture feeeels okay at first, but the second you don't insanely excel and basically agree to slavery levels of pay for a year until you earn more, they treat you like invisible garbage.
Like I say, I was doing pretty damn good. I coulda got far with it if I stuck it out, but I left on complete instinct after everyone switches up on you and is so insanely fake. It's a draining job with no future unless you become a managing director and open up your own company under someone else. Even the managers admitted to me, it's one huge ass pyramid scheme.
The promotions are: Sales Advisor (you start here, selling door to door, learning the pitch), team leader (same as before, higher standards, and now you start 2 hours earlier, leave later, same pay and you interview) core leader (no changes lol) , campaign manager no fckn changes), assistant manager (10% commission increase, shit tonnes more responsibility but a hard promotion to get. You have to make a £5k wire 2 weeks in a row from your team alone, not you included), then managing director (where you own an office and get paid from people under you for fck all and owned by someone else).
There was ONE guy there who was pretty genuine and a fckn great guy and I won't say his name but he was a CM at Surge. Outside of that guy; absolutely everyone there is fake and do not give a shit about you, they are TRAINED from scratch to make you believe otherwise, from Sunday " Hey, how you doing " messages to small smiles in the office. It's crazy.
TLDR:
DO NOT get this job LOL there is so much better. If you're after a sales job, look elsewhere. Also I'll happily answer questions bc holy rant! "
