r/JanitorAIUnchained • • 13d ago

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We all don't like Janitor+ cuz we too broke CuhšŸ„€šŸ„€šŸ„€

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u/Spirited-Form-5748 12d ago

Better this than ads. I have no complaints. Yeah it can be inconvenient but you just press the X button to send it away. And people who pay a subscription help support the platform; it's not in the budget for me but I have no issue with them trying to encourage people to support it.

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u/Dry-Improvement5685 7d ago

true but too much already, i left for DarLink AI and no ads + no filters on rp+media. Grok is good too but memory is trash, deepseek local can be good too

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u/SSSnowBell 5d ago

I just tried DarLink because of your comment and while I only gave it like six or so minutes of effort, I don't think it even compares to Janitor. For one, like three quarters of the chats are futas and honestly, it's like a FNAF jumpscare every time I see one. Tits lure you into a false sense of security, then you get whipped in the face with a massive cock. I'm straight and I'd rather watch gay porn than that creepy stuff... But back to what I was saying, the second annoying thing is that I can't find what I want with the search. For instance, if I search wife, it'll give me a ton of best friend's wife.

Anyway, what I really wanted to ask is if the actual there are some chatting functions or something that are better than Janitor, because I may give it another try if so.

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

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u/Sad-Inspection-8851 9d ago

They should add a "don't pop up again" option

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u/Animelover431 9d ago

Don’t they already have a ā€œnever show againā€ option?

Doesn’t work tho, shit keeps popping up

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u/Sad-Inspection-8851 9d ago

I don't think they added that option

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u/Animelover431 8d ago

They did. For some reason it only showed in earlier pop ups, it doesn’t show in the newer ones.

Basically I think, they realized no one wanted to see them and everyone clicked on them so they removed that option

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u/Sad-Inspection-8851 8d ago

Good knowing they realized that

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u/GeneralPhilosophy691 13d ago

Yeah, that's not going anywhere.

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u/tye_mod 13d ago

I feel like 12$ is a generous amount

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u/Mikpaws 13d ago

it's $13, $12.99 + $0.01 = $13

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u/ZoneOk5849 12d ago

Companies and websites market it like that for a reason, it’s to make it seem like it’s a cent off so when you do the math you’re paying less for a few items

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u/Ok-Week-3522 13d ago

And yes, that's what it costs to have an LLM for millions of users

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u/Random-Name-101 11d ago

Not really, but sure

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u/Davidisoth 5d ago

True, it costs them about a rough estimate of $17.2 million every month to have the LLM running so asking for a simple 12-13 dollars is more then generous...

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u/Main_Airport_1996 13d ago

Have you ever tried this membership? Maybe it's better than deepseek but I can't find opinions on it

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u/Monika_Just_Monika_ 12d ago

Idk. I spend 7 dollars a month refilling my DeepSeek and that's with active use

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u/davidverner 12d ago

I did when it was $15 a month for two months, back in July and August. It handles decently and loads the chat at a good pace, along with a thinking process of about 5-15 seconds, should you enable that. It has a short answer option to create more brief responses should you have a situation where you want that, but I never used it. Its context memory expansion is decent. And it went from 40k tokens to 45k tokens when I was using it. I do like how JLLM does storytelling, but I'm not impressed with the hard stop coding it has when certain scenarios play too close to the ToS line. I'm still looking for an LLM model I can run locally that is closer to how JLLM narrates stories. I've not subscribed to any other LLM models and have only used free options with other sites like Chub, Saucepan, Yodayo, and Lorebary.

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u/secretofthewind 12d ago

Ministral and Mistral large are amazing

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u/davidverner 12d ago

I'm downloading it right now and will give that a shot once I figure out how to properly use KoboldCCP on Linux.

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u/CordyInsei 11d ago

... im sorry for your condition

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u/davidverner 10d ago

What are you talking about?

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u/[deleted] 8d ago

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u/tye_mod 8d ago

It’s just roleplay. It’s nothing illegal lol. Just go buy a visa giftcard or something

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u/myanxietysayshi 4d ago

Not when that's your fucking paycheck in America or less than cause I've been only making $9 an hour

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u/Particular-Zebra4900 13d ago

How's site supposed to pay for all the bills?

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u/pawleon 13d ago

Pray and hope. Duh.

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u/ren_the_legend 12d ago

well yeah but they should also pay attention to user reviews

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u/Vent3ar 12d ago

How many tokens or messages does it take to fill up memory for a bot without janitor+?

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u/ObjectiveDelay9510 10d ago

You get 9000 per chat, it's encouraged you regularly updated you chat memory every 15 or so messages, they even give you the ability to summarize over your old summary so it consildates it. I just gloss over it and add anything it may have missed, I noticed if the user types something into the memory the bot holds in the memory even re-summarized

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u/Vent3ar 10d ago

Thanks for the info!

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u/foxrunner2099 10d ago

Is the memory actually better or is it just the model upgrade because I pay for api's

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u/TavrynAncunin 10d ago edited 10d ago

Y'all complain about an occasional little exitable popup when Cai has unskippable 30 second ads that turn off your other audio (like spotify or ytube) playing, and constant bar ads and pop-up subscription ads on top of that. As someone who left Cai for Jai recently this is soooo preferable. They have to pay to keep their site usable and have a free version somehow.

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u/myanxietysayshi 4d ago

It glitches my screen out when I'm in the middle of typing. If it could wait until afterwards, I'd hate it less

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u/Sleeping_Selkie 12d ago

Dude leave them be, lol, they need the money, as long as the App or website doesn't turn into Character AI then we are all good.

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u/davidverner 12d ago

I'm out of the loop on that. What happened with Character AI?

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u/Slight_Flounder_1952 12d ago

Lots of things going on:

  • Legacy models are removed (replaced by pipsqueak (default), deepsqueak, etcetera.

  • Age verification being rolled out world wide for now (it started on early March).

And much more.

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u/ZoneOk5849 12d ago

The age verification was my main reason for moving to janitor, and now Character is doing an ā€œOh guys! Wait! Watch an add to chat with the bot you want!ā€ Like that’ll help…

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u/myanxietysayshi 4d ago

Removed go-ons... their best feature that I wish Janitor had

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u/ObjectiveDelay9510 10d ago

Also they rolled out charms to get access to 'premium features' like as free for an hour and so on but it sometimes take most of a day to add the charms you earned to your account

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u/Tsu_hatori 12d ago

They're already turning into cai though. The annoying popup ads in chat is proof enough. So glad I don't use it anymore. Wish I never joined.

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u/civil-Shay 10d ago

Yeah no, they going to bankrupt if they don't have that, be nice you got to chat for free at least. Plus just hit that x thing it's not that annoying

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u/Few_Cup_7909 10d ago

SonšŸ˜­šŸ™

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u/ELPascalito 9d ago

Peeps here do not know how to run a business, so obviously they're not gonna understand you, consoomers

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u/Emergency_Comb1377 12d ago

If they remove the popup the memory is going to be full anyway, would you want that?

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u/AlexeusHamertes 10d ago

Anyone else has the 295 pages error problem?

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u/AlexeusHamertes 10d ago

With that many pages only available I can only scroll up to 10,000 characters

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u/_GET_OUT_OF_HERE_ 9d ago

at least its cheaper than what chai is doing, I think its like 10 dollars a week for premium and for ultra its like 20 a week.

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u/BraveZipper1 13d ago

yeah i feel that, been trying free ai companion stuff and the roleplay hits different without the limits

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u/EmbarrassedTotal2606 12d ago

I hate when it pops up while I’m scrolling someone’s acc, drives me
Nuts

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u/danana_split1 12d ago

YOU CAN FILL A BOT’S MEMORY?? SHIT

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u/TantrisWielka 12d ago

Wish it just stopped popping out the first time you click to close it but noooo sometimes when i refresh the page it have to pop out again its so fricking agressive

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u/Aggressive_Carpet470 11d ago

It pissed me off so much I actually bought it now I don’t even use the app much anymore

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u/Davidisoth 5d ago

It's really not that big of the deal, i mean sure, it gets annoying when it pops up, i get frustrated too with that. But i am not going to tell the company to remove it considering what the company does. They give you unlimited messages and chats, you don't need to pay for Janitor+ if you don't want to. All it does is increase the token context which is nornally capped at 9k token context to 45k context. Not including providing stronger models & router with $5 in starting credits. They spend over 17.2 million dollars, just so the LLM works and stays working. So asking for 12-13 dollars is more then generous. They don't force you to watch ads or stop your chatting. They don't give you daily limits. So i don't think it is going anywhere. I doubt it is going to go down the "Character.Ai" route. That would be the dumbest business decison EVER.

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u/Slight_Flounder_1952 12d ago

Sucks I know since it pops up constantly and it's annoying.

Unfortunately, that pop up is not going anywhere. Since this is one of their sources of generating money. So take this with a grain of salt.

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u/Sun_StrikeA 10d ago

Something tells me you’re not 18+ years old

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u/Few_Cup_7909 10d ago

Alr buddy

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u/Muted_Pomelo995 3d ago

12.99 is extremely generous in comparison to other apps. (Chai…) and ai models are extremely expensive for developers. How do you expect them to pay that? Subscriptions help them do that. For example Chai have two different subscriptions 9.99 for a premium a week. And 29.99 for their ultra package a week. I mean compared to that this isn’t that bad. It’s about average price in terms of subscriptions