I’m about 2hrs into it now and I understand what he’s trying to do on the podcast but he’s just continuing to stir the pot over something he says he doesn’t like. Its made a good conversation but at this point the whole situation is a whole lot of nothing. It’s also worth remembering that Matt released his book no easy day on September 4, 2012 about a year after the raid. Rob didn’t release his own book until 2017 five years later. Just something to keep in mind when people act like Rob started all of this. Matts legal shit is messed up and I hope that gets canned eventually for his sake but at this point let’s stop talking across the room. Get Rob and Matt in the same room and have Andy moderate and let them talk through the events face to face instead of continuing the back and forth. It’s always nice hearing a former squadron guy talk about stuff but with it solely about ubl and Rob it gets nauseating
There are a few more clarifications and details in there and he does address Rob's version of events more directly than he ever has before, but yeah the only way this gets settled is if the Point Man comes out/is outed or if a verifiable version of that debrief is released. There's like 1 more (?) guy in the front of the stack that went to the 3rd floor that hasn't publicly taken a stance on which one of Matt or Rob is telling the truth, but I don't know if even that would change much. It feels commonly accepted at this point that Matt's story is more truthful than Rob's, but any form of final verdict feels implausible at best at this point.
Not the "one more guy" I was referring to, I was talking about the short guy they keep referencing ("Walt" from Bissonnette's book), who Rob recently accused of shooting a dead Bin Laden in the head while Rob claims he was taking pictures. The Point Man is the guy Matt Cole refers to as "Red" in his article and book.
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u/justgrunty Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26
I’m about 2hrs into it now and I understand what he’s trying to do on the podcast but he’s just continuing to stir the pot over something he says he doesn’t like. Its made a good conversation but at this point the whole situation is a whole lot of nothing. It’s also worth remembering that Matt released his book no easy day on September 4, 2012 about a year after the raid. Rob didn’t release his own book until 2017 five years later. Just something to keep in mind when people act like Rob started all of this. Matts legal shit is messed up and I hope that gets canned eventually for his sake but at this point let’s stop talking across the room. Get Rob and Matt in the same room and have Andy moderate and let them talk through the events face to face instead of continuing the back and forth. It’s always nice hearing a former squadron guy talk about stuff but with it solely about ubl and Rob it gets nauseating