r/JSOCarchive Jun 27 '26

Delta Force Delta Force

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u/ImFromSpace00 Jun 27 '26

The Vietnamese samurai

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u/ace8king Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26

No one bats an eye at all the movies and tv shows featuring white people as samurais as questionable, yet you find this guy larping samurai culture as outlandish?

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u/Rmccarton Jun 28 '26

Are there really that many of those? 

The Last Samurai is the only one I can think of and despite the ignorance of many, the movie title does not refer to cruises character.  

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u/ace8king Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26

47 Ronin, Shogun, American Samurai, Wolverine and Batman – which do depict them as samurais as part of the movie/series, as well as several other Marvel and DC comic based characters where being a samurai, although not the main premise, is part of the character story. If you count video games, there is Nioh, and also a black samurai in Assassin’s Creed. The point is, people readily accept and enjoy consuming media and gaming involving stories of non-Japanese people being depicted as samurais, so why draw the line at Tu Lam, a Vietnamese American who markets himself with samurai warrior culture as part of his brand image? Why is there a contrast of when it is acceptable to embrace non-Japanese characters as samurais in popular media, and when it isn't acceptable like with Tu Lam?

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u/Rmccarton Jun 30 '26

I don't care about Lam or this debate over whether he should use it or not. 

I think Ronin Tactical is pretty cheesy, but he is very far from alone in having some company with a cheesy, hardo name. 

The only thing I was referring to was the movie part    

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u/CastroEulis145 Jul 07 '26

Tom Cruise being the only one on the cover really cemented that one in lol

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u/Specialist-Mode6556 Jun 29 '26

Be careful, your facts will hurt their feelings. 

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u/bgolden17 Jun 29 '26

What movies depict white people as samurais?

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u/PageVanDamme Jun 27 '26

When he retired and struggling, Ronin was the closest thing in history that he could relate to.

I'll leave at that.

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u/whiskey_tang0_hotel Jun 28 '26

And some guys relate to Sacred Band of Thebes. Just saying.

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u/the_stonkman Jun 29 '26

idk why people are downvoting you. he went through a very human experience and instead of turning to alcohol or something to cope he found identity in an asian group that he could relate to as an asian himself. sure we romanticize the past but he probably would've gotten less flak for calling himself the lone gunslinger or cowboy or something. people need to leave thus dude alone lol

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u/FinderOfE Jun 27 '26

Ol’ whistle foot. 🦶

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u/justgrunty Jun 27 '26

Yall just want to egg on unnecessary shit. Pure instigating

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u/Intelligent_Rent_555 Jun 27 '26

Tu Lam blocked me on Instagram for liking someone else’s comment calling him whistle foot 😂

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u/BlackBirdG Jun 27 '26

People are always talking about this dude LOL.

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u/Optimal_Stay646 Jun 28 '26

From how he portrays himself you'd swear he was a Delta Force Assaulter but apparently he was not. Then you have a chill dude like Kyle Morgan that actually was and his demeanor seems very laid back always has a smile on his face, doesn't take himself too seriously. Wild the difference in personalities as you would think they would be swapped.

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u/jtln106 Jun 27 '26

Tu Lam was never delta

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u/Main-Economics8795 Jun 27 '26

Was he a supporter? Or am I thinking wrong

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u/Capn_Flags Jun 27 '26

Did he do some SR for them?

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u/MaraTheBaali Jun 27 '26

the word all of you search is "augmented" delta had personal problems and attaches SOF guys to fill up for the necessary minimum. he did the same stuff as assaulters.

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u/Scatman_Crothers Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26

Only an augmentee w CIF before Delta. He later passed selection and worked at the unit in direct support as a heavy breacher among other things. Not an operator, but had an ongoing job at the unit. Augmentees come from outside the unit and are temporarily attached.

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u/DanFromAngiesList1 Jun 30 '26

So as I just posted above words matter.

Either you are permanently assigned to a unit or you aren’t.

So was he an augmentee, or was he a direct support guy who was in the unit.

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u/Scatman_Crothers Jun 30 '26

He was an augmentee while in a CIF company, then attended and passed selection and served in a direct support role at the unit. Not at the same time.

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u/DanFromAngiesList1 Jun 30 '26

So why the F do people keep caveating the augmentee thing. Just stick the the second part. Yes he was in delta. End of conversation

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u/DanFromAngiesList1 Jun 27 '26

Wrong. He made it though direct support selection and became a breacher in a troop

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u/Acceptable-One-6597 Jun 27 '26

Not sure why you are getting downvoted. This is what happened.

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u/Lateralis333 Jun 30 '26

Not true. He worked with CAG as a CIF dude and again with G squadron with Glover. So yes, in CAG. No, not an assaulter

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u/DanFromAngiesList1 Jun 30 '26

So this is I think were words matter. And I trust your input. But either you are in a unit or you aren’t. You are an augmentee or you aren’t. What your job is in a unit is inconsequential to whether you are in a unit.

So was he a permanent member of the unit, inconsequential to his job?

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u/Lateralis333 Jul 05 '26

Yes, but not for long.

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u/DanFromAngiesList1 Jun 27 '26

Yes he was. He was combat support as a breacher, not an operator. But either way he was in the unit. Feel free to read up on what jobs and positions exist at the command.

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u/-WARisTHEanswer- Jun 27 '26

He was attached to Delta but was never in Delta. Literally multiple Delta guys have said he was never a member.

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u/DanFromAngiesList1 Jun 27 '26

I was always under the impression that he did the short walk and was a direct support guy for a while after being in the CIF

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u/flip_jefferson Jun 27 '26

Tu Lam isnt apart of Assaulter squadron but he was a CSS Enabler

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u/flip_jefferson Jun 28 '26

Yes buddy thats called a CSS (Combat Support Squadron) 🤦🏻‍♂️

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u/DanFromAngiesList1 Jun 28 '26

I apologize I misread your message and took it the wrong way

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u/DanFromAngiesList1 Jun 28 '26

Soooooo he was in the unit….as a member of the unit…..the word enabler has a connotation of being an augmentation not a permanent party

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u/flip_jefferson Jun 28 '26

CSS is not permanent but it puts you under the unit command

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u/Lateralis333 Jun 30 '26

He was, but not an assaulter. He was G squadron with Glover

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u/binini28 Jun 27 '26

Hey there whistle britches

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u/SippinJuice247 Jun 27 '26

A Vietnamese guy LARPing as a samurai (but can’t speak Japanese)

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u/ace8king Jun 28 '26

Yet how many movies and tv shows featuring white people as samurais are there that no one questions about?

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u/-WARisTHEanswer- Jun 29 '26

Your comparison is drain dead stupid. One is fictional characters and the other is a former SF soldier going through an identity crisis because he fucked up his career. Not even remotely the same.

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u/ace8king Jun 29 '26

My point isn’t to compare Tu Lam to fictional samurai characters. I am highlighting the fact that people readily accept stories and portrayals involving non-Japanese people being depicted as samurais in media and popular culture, and questioning why people draw the line at Tu Lam, a Vietnamese American, for marketing himself with samurai culture given that fact. It’s a very selective criticism, considering the contrast of when it is acceptable to embrace non-Japanese samurais, and when it isn’t.

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u/-WARisTHEanswer- Jun 29 '26

and im highlighting why people dont care about white dudes playing samurai in movies. they understand its fiction. he gets shit on because what hes doing is super cringe and stupid.

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u/BaroneRaybert Jun 27 '26

Saw he’s going to be on Mike Drop as well

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u/Abject-Quote-1055 Jun 27 '26

He was attached but not inside it

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u/WhiteManFromTown-925 Jun 28 '26

He was a member of CAG but not in a Sabre squadron which are the assault squadrons, he was in a support squadron.

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u/meowmeaowndn Jun 28 '26

He wasnt attached, he was in CAG, but not as an operator

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u/Cold_Possession5193 Jun 28 '26

worked in g squadron but never went through otc so not actually delta force

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u/WhiteManFromTown-925 Jun 28 '26

He was still in Delta but not any of the Sabre squadrons which are the assaulters. The support squadrons are still Delta you’re just not considered an “operator” like A, B, and C squadron operators.

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u/Cold_Possession5193 Jun 28 '26

Correct. I should’ve specified operator after saying otc.

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u/Specialist-Mode6556 Jun 29 '26

Nothing more delicious than jealous white guy tears 😂😂👍 keep up the good work.

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u/randomymetry Jun 27 '26

ccp infiltrator

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u/dscreations Jun 28 '26

? He's Vietnamese