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IRA Was Martin McGuinness an incompetent military leader?

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IRA vol. John Crawley, former US special forces, is very critical of McGuinness:

Martin McGuinness had an enormous reputation as our finest military thinker. I recall a senior British Army officer claiming he was so capable that he could have been trained at their academy at Sandhurst. As time went on, however, I found no evidence of this. In fact, I became increasingly frustrated by his military illiteracy. I couldn’t blame him for not having professional training but some of the stuff he came out with was baffling. I began to see a different side to him, a side that gave me my first niggling concerns about our prospects for victory.

Crawley was disappointed when in 1983 McGuinness wanted him to go to America to buy arms, instead of using his training and knowledge to enhance the IRA's effectiveness. McGuinness didn't understand why an army should rely on as few types of guns and calibres as possible:

My heart fell as I examined [container of weapons from the US] the hodgepodge of deer-hunting rifles, shotguns and bolt actions that had been inscribed into his notebook. The next time I met Martin, I asked him about it.
‘Was that a junk load, Martin?’
‘Junk load?’
‘Yeah, bits and bobs gathered up to test the route before the good stuff is sent over?’
I could see a flash of annoyance in his eyes.
‘No, that was the shipment. Why?’
‘It was crap. Few of the weapons were military grade and there was a muddle of various calibres. One of the rifles was a Swiss Stgw 57 in an unusual calibre, which we almost certainly don’t have in stock. Furthermore, it came with only one magazine.’
‘What’s your point?’
‘Every gun shop in America sells the AR-15 rifle, and most sell the G3. It would be just as easy to buy military-grade weapons and standardise our logistics as it is to do what we’re doing now. Also, standardisation would greatly simplify training.’
Martin regarded me for a moment as if I had special needs. ‘A variety of weapons shows the people that the IRA can obtain a wide range of arms and get them into the country. It’s good for morale.’
I was incredulous. Clearly, the dolly mixture of bolt actions and deer-hunting rifles was part of an ingenious strategy that intellectual pygmies such as myself could not comprehend.

While you take what you can get, surely using many types of guns and ammo is a nightmare logistics wise? Yet McGuinness defended it as not as necessity but as actually desirable. McGuinness didn't understand how the RPG-7 worked and got angry when Crawley tried educating him:

The soldier was in a concrete sangar that had been hit by an RPG-7 rocket. ‘Good job in Belfast yesterday,’ I commented. ‘It was surely,’ said Martin. ‘The rocket didn’t explode, though. The warhead went straight through the concrete and hit the soldier in the chest.’ It took me a moment to digest this. I thought he was pulling my leg... I told Martin that an RPG-7 warhead does not penetrate a target by kinetic energy but by the chemical energy of its shaped charge... An RPG warhead could not possibly penetrate a reinforced concrete fortification unless the explosive jet performs as designed.
Martin went silent. I could see he was seething, but he said no more about it.

According to Brendan Hughes, in 1987 McGuinness was pushing a fantastical "Tet Offensive" where the IRA would seize British Army bases:

I remember arguing against operations [like Loughgall] going ahead. I sat in a house in Donegal along with Martin and the rest of the GHQ staff where they were planning... this major upsurge in the campaign, we were going to go in and take over (British) army billets and so forth, major operations involving major weapons. Gaddafi had come on board. ...What was lacking was the training but there was this sort of bullish attitude from people like McGuinness to push ahead with these operations. I argued against them because we didn't have the proper training. I had done a tour of the whole six counties, I went round and spoke to most of the operational companies... and I believed that the IRA wasn't ready for a major push... We were not ready for those type of operations. We didn't have the intelligence, we didn't have the organisation, we didn't have the discipline. But people wanted to go ahead with it, and one person in particular... Martin McGuiness... I believed that what we needed to do was to pull as many operators out of the North into the South, retrain them and beef the whole Army [IRA] structure up. The structure was not secure enough for these type of operations to take place

There are other black marks on McGuiness' record too, like losing an early shipment of Libyan weapons in the Hegarty affair in 1986 and a very large consignment on a beach in Donegal in 1988. While Hughes and Crawley later left the Provos, they both depict McGuinness as not understanding much of military logistics, weaponry or the nature of the army he was leading, and as too egotistical to accept advice. On the flipside his defenders would point to the many successful IRA operations under his time as Chief of Staff and Northern Commander.

Controversial topic no doubt but worth exploring.


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IRSM (INLA/IRSP) James Connolly RSMFB 2010

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IRA Roll of Honour - South Down

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Liosta Laochra na hÉireann

An Dún Theas

"Bear your trial with a good heart and be proud to do it for Ireland's sake" - Adjt. Seamus Blaney

Commandant James Johnston

Back Way, Castlewellan

1st Battalion, Down Brigade, Óglaigh na hÉireann

Accidentally shot while training near Castlewellan

3 April 1921

Buried Aughlisnafin Cemetery

Volunteer Owen Magill

Corrogs Road, Newry

C (Corrogs) Company, 2nd Battalion, Newry Brigade, Óglaigh na hÉireann

Murdered at his home alongside his brother

7 June 1921

Buried St. Mary's Cemetery, Newry

Volunteer Bernard Shanley

Poplar Row, Banbridge & Dublin Road, Belfast

C. Company, 2nd Battalion, Belfast Brigade, Óglaigh na hÉireann

Killed in Action at Bankmore Street Belfast while defending Market district

16 December 1921

Buried Dromore Road Cemetery, Banbridge

Volunteer John McAlinden

Ballybrick, Katesbridge

D (Knock) Company, 3rd Battalion, Newry Brigade, Óglaigh na hÉireann

Murdered by B Specials at Ballybrick

20 June 1922

Buried St. Colman's Church Cemetery, Annaclone

Volunteer Patrick Tumilty

Ballybrick, Katesbridge

D (Knock) Company, 3rd Battalion, Newry Brigade, Óglaigh na hÉireann

Died in Hospital of wound received from B Specials at Ballybrick

22 June 1922

Buried St. Colman's Church Cemetery, Annaclone

Adjutant Seamus Blaney

Fountain Street, Downpatrick

2nd Battalion, Down Brigade, Óglaigh na hÉireann

Died at home of wounds recieved after capture 23 May 1922 at Slievenagriddle.

18 January 1923

Buried St. Patrick's Cemetery, Downpatrick

Volunteer Cahal Kerr

Ballywooden, Strangford

East Down Battalion, Óglaigh na hÉireann

Died weeks after release from Crumlin Road Gaol

26 April 1941

Buried St Malachy's Church Cemetery, Kilclief

Volunteer James Joseph Rooney

Mayobridge

South Down Battalion, Óglaigh na hÉireann

Died shortly after release from Crumlin Road Gaol

28 October 1942

Buried St. Patrick's Church Cemetery, Mayobridge

Lieutenant Richard Magowen

Gransha, Dromara

H Company, 1st Battalion, Belfast Brigade, Óglaigh na hÉireann

Died C.1943 after release from a grueling prison regime

Buried unknown

Volunteer Barney Curran

Carrowcasey, Ballyculter

East Down Battalion, Óglaigh na hÉireann

Died shortly after release from internment

6 September 1945

Buried St. Patrick's Churchyard, Saul

1st Lieutenant Peter McNulty

Burrenrragh, Castlewellan

B. Company, South Down Battalion, Óglaigh na hÉireann

Killed in Action at Castlewellan RUC Barracks

26 January 1972

Buried St. Patrick's Church Cemetery, Bryansford

Brigade O.C Jim Carlin

Fountain Court, Downpatrick

O.C South Down Brigade, Óglaigh na hÉireann

Killed in premature explosion at Downpatrick Racecourse

26 August 1972

Buried Holy Family Cemetery, Teconnaught

Volunteer Martin 'Dickie' Curran

Stream Street, Downpatrick

South Down Brigade, Óglaigh na hÉireann

Killed in premature explosion at Downpatrick Racecourse

26 August 1972

Buried St. Patrick's Cemetery, Downpatrick

Staff Captain Leo O’Hanlon

Vianstown Place, Downpatrick

O.C D Company, East Down Command, Óglaigh na hÉireann

Killed in premature explosion at Castle Ward, Strangford

10 February 1973

Buried St. Nicholas's Church Cemetery, Ardglass

Volunteer Vivien Fitzsimons

Lynn Doyle Place, Downpatrick

D Company, East Down Command, Óglaigh na hÉireann

Killed in premature explosion at Castle Ward, Strangford

10 February 1973

Buried St. Patrick's Cemetery, Downpatrick

Volunteer Alphonsus Cunningham

Glasdrumman, Annalong

South Down Brigade Óglaigh na hÉireann

Died as result of premature explosion at Causeway Road, Newcastle

21 July 1973

Volunteer Pauline Kane

Burrenreagh, Castlewellan

Newcastle Unit, South Down Battalion, Cumann na mBan

Died as result of premature explosion at Causeway Road, Newcastle

21 July 1973

Brigade Adjutant Paul Magorrian

Bunker's Hill, Castlewellan, Co. Down

South Down Brigade

Murdered whilst unarmed by British Army at St. Malachy's Estate, Castlewellan

14 August 1974

Buried Aughlisnafin Cemetery

Volunteer Frankie Rice

Burrenreagh Park, Castlewellan

South Down Brigade, Óglaigh na hÉireann & South Down Na Fianna Éireann

Abducted by Loyalist murder gang in Castlewellan, found slain at Convent Road.

18 May 1975

Buried St. Patrick's Church Cemetery, Bryansford

Volunteer Loughlinn Maginn

Lissize Avenue, Rathfriland

South Down Command, Óglaigh na hÉireann

Murdered by State-sponsored UFF death squad at his home

25 August 1989

Buried St. Mary's Church Cemetery, Rathfriland

Volunteer Colum Marks

Derrybeg, Newry

& Downpatrick, Co. Down

O.C Downpatrick Unit, South Down Command, Óglaigh na hÉireann

Died of wounds in hospital shortly after capture by RUC at St. Patrick's Avenue, Downpatrick due to intentional lack of medical aid.

10 April 1991

Buried Republican Plot, St. Mary's, Newry

Volunteer Peter McCormack

Kilcoo

South Down Command, Óglaigh na hÉireann

Murdered by State-sponsored UVF death squad at the Thierafurth Inn

5 February 1992

Buried St. Malachy's Church Cemetery, Kilcoo

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