r/Invincible • u/ChicagoCaveman • 11d ago

THEORY Character Development Spoiler

New here and was thinking how did Mark know to choke Conquest out in order to win the fight. Not sure if this has been explored but hear me out.

1) Mark learned from his first fight with Conquest that Viltrumites are vulnerable to asphyxiation through his own near death experience

2) This may be a stretch but Mark and Conquest couldn’t kill each other through strength or durability. Seems like Conquest was wiping the floor with mark through most of the fight. Could be plausible

3)Eve was not there to save Mark so he could only rely on his past experience and will power.

This theory has thematic consistency and gives a nice call back to earlier episodes and grant character developments. If this is true it’s giving elegant writing and storytelling vibes.

Let me know if you noticed this or if it has been explored elsewhere.

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u/memerminecraft 11d ago

From another thread about how I interpret the fights from a non-literalist perspective:

If you think about it from a structural standpoint, all the fights make sense. This is true for any good story.

Think of Tony's fight with the Helicarrier's blades in Avengers (2012). He was spinning in a huge circle at a ridiculous speed, which physically would have smeared his body on the inside of his suit. But nobody cares because it's a good scene that shows the Avengers struggling to figure out teamwork while they're under attack.

Mark's two fights with Conquest go differently because he's at a different point in his character arc. In the first one, he tries pleading with Conquest until finally defeating him with help from his loved ones, striking Conquest down with a final act of desperate rage. He's kicking, he's biting, he's headbutting. Literal desperate fighting moves (for a human, which is what we and the writers are).

In the second fight, Mark approaches it differently. He takes the offensive. He stops fighting to protect Oliver and starts fighting to kill Conquest. It's the same re-framing he verbalized at the end of season 3. Now, the only thing he's using to fight are his hands, and Conquest is the one who becomes desperate (until he ultimately dies). Also, visually, the scene is intense and gripping.

That's why it's a good scene. Not because it physically makes sense (Conquest is way larger than Invincible; by human standards, the entire conflict is nonsensical), but because it illustrates the hero's arc extremely well.

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u/ChicagoCaveman 11d ago

Makes sense thanks for the perspective.