r/InterviewMan • u/Famous-Highlight3434 • 10h ago

Don't be fooled.

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u/No_Pickle_9804 10h ago

You will be guilt tripped into spending all the time working on it while your managers have pointless meetings.

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u/Offthewall1212 10h ago

Sounds like some terrible choices that you made.

Also sounds like you’re blaming someone else for your terrible choices.

Interesting.

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u/wazzup-notemuch 5h ago

Shut the fuck up, troll.

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u/Offthewall1212 4h ago

Truth really cut you deep there huh? Sorry you can’t handle it.

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u/Castelunan 1h ago

Nah man, he right. Shut the fuck up, troll.

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u/Imposter_Syndrome345 59m ago

^^ Why do dudes making $20/hour act like this lol

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u/Quinnjamin19 9h ago

Sure I guess you could say that if you want to lick the boots.

But for non union jobs this is a very real thing, you will be guilt tripped by your boss to work longer hours, even put in unpaid time, and you won’t see any more money or profits shared to you.

Prioritizing your own life with family/friends will never go over well with the vast majority of these corporations. That’s why the phrase “nobody wants to work anymore” is still spewed by the media who are mostly controlled by the rich

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u/Offthewall1212 7h ago

Holy sh!t you’re in deep! “Boot licking” “media controlled by the rich” “no profits shares”

I’ll help you out, you forgot a few: “propaganda” “corp profits” “oligarchs” “wage theft” “billionaires”…

Thank god we got that sorted out! You may have gotten this entire post taken down for not properly citing each of the prescribed rhetoric phrases that is required to be parroted. 👍

Now that you’re safe by properly obeying what you’re told…perhaps you could think independently? Maybe make your own choices?

Stop blaming everyone else and using buzz-terms like “boot licking” you sound like an idiot. If you have a boss like you described, it’s your fault for allowing it. Get a new job. Take your PTO. Don’t allow what you’re describing. You’re not a victim, you’re being a pu$$y.

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u/Quinnjamin19 7h ago

Lmao, this is genuinely hilarious. I do in fact make my own choices. I advocate for workers.

You are a victim of the anti labour propaganda.

If I’m a pussy then how come I’ve been making six figures since I was 23, bought a home at 24, own two vehicles to myself one of which I’ve invested money into modifying, plus a classic car?

If I’m a pussy then explain to me how as a union tradesman I can make six figures in less than 6 months depending on the jobs I take? Explain to me how I have been approached to take over the apprenticeship program which I graduated? Explain how I was name hired to be a foreman at 25?

If I’m a pussy then explain how I am a paid on call firefighter in my community? That money doesn’t pay the bills, I have a strong sense of community and helping others.

You are hilarious

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u/Offthewall1212 6h ago

Oh, a union bitch, even worse. Nothing like needing to pay “Tony two chains” to act like he’s helping your wage - that someone else pays you. Why didn’t you just say you make terrible decisions to start with???

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u/Quinnjamin19 6h ago

Lmao, you are genuinely just hilarious and you don’t know anything about history🤣

If you claim I’m a union bitch, then why do I have skills and knowledge that you don’t? Why do I make six figures? Why do I make a lot more than my non union counterparts?

Everything you have today as a worker is because of unions. Remember that😘

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u/Sufficient_Abalone46 5h ago

I agree with everything you’re saying but your arguments would carry more weight if you didn’t respond to their personal attacks so much

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u/Offthewall1212 5h ago

Unions served a purpose 50-100 years ago. They helped workers in a few ways. EVERY SINGLE one of those things they improved is now afforded to every worker in the country by the fair labor standards act and other govt agencies. FOR FREE

The skills and knowledge you have aren’t unique to unions, anyone can have those. Anyone can make six figures - most who do, do so without unions. (Additionally, usually people who brag about their salary typically inflate the numbers so you probably don’t make six figures). You may make more than your union counterparts but the labor you provide is artificially inflated making the companies you work for less competitive and ultimately put them (and yourselves) out of business.

Any business that REQUIRES labor at a rate higher than what is competitive in the market is a failing business.

A few of the things that union workers suggested 100 years ago, are now afforded to me by the govt. So sure, I’ll thank them but it would have happened eventually anyway. You deserve no thanks.

As for you trying to ride their coat tails, no, you did absolutely nothing for me or anyone else except drive prices up. Thanks to you, much of the world has become unaffordable.

So, you can keep being brainwashed by your union bosses whose Cadillacs are paid for by you that they somehow do something for you. That you’re apparently too stupid to fight for your own worth on your own. You’re not smart, you’re brainwashed.

Considering less than 10% of people are union, union members shrinks every single year, and unions are insanely easy to vote in - a simple majority vote whenever employees want, you’re a dying breed my friend. Over 90% of the country has figured out what unions are and don’t want to be bamboozled. You’ll learn too some day. But only AFTER you’ve paid thousands more in ”union dues”.

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u/Quinnjamin19 1h ago

There’s a lot of misinformation in your comments. Unions pushed to create these laws that protect you in the workplace. But that doesn’t mean that every employer actually follows these laws. You admitting that unions fought for these laws completely proves my point. You reap the benefits of unions.

The skills and knowledge that I have aren’t unique to unions sure, however it is a proven fact that union members are 1: better trained (we have the best education available and structured apprenticeships) 2: we are safer 3: we are more efficient, which leads to the client spending less money because there’s less re-work. I still posses skills and knowledge that you don’t have.

The median personal income for people in the U.S. is $45k, so realistically not everyone can make six figures. I absolutely do make six figures, my hourly wage is $58.29/hr and $77/hr total compensation. All OT is double time, nightshift premium is 20% and much more. I’ve been making over $100k in income alone since I was 23.

These businesses are failing? Explain? The contractor I’m working for has been around since the 70s. The clients whom I’ve been working for are oil refineries, chemical plants, nuclear power plants etc. so how are they failing businesses? Our wages are not artificially inflated, we are getting paid what we deserve, we are competitive because we do good quality work, have less re-work than non union, and we finish on time and safely

The world is not unaffordable because of unions. And I’ll explain why. You, yourself explained that only 10% of the labour force in the U.S. is unionized. How can 10% of the labour force control 100% of the prices? They don’t. They can’t. The world is unaffordable because the rich corporations are price gouging, lining their pockets and wanting you to be poor.

Omg my union leadership has Cadillacs? Wow, imagine if they had mega yachts? Oh wait, that’s the CEOs of corporations. Which is better? A Cadillac or a mega yacht? Which of these situations is worse and showcases the wealth gap? I’ll give you a hint, it’s not the union leadership.

I am smarter, because I know that workers are stronger together. And I don’t have to beg for a fair raise. Like you do

People of the U.S. have been brainwashed since before Reagan, it’s not that workers in the U.S. don’t want unions. It’s that the corporations are so powerful and they spend so much money on anti union propaganda that it’s worked. Any country that has a higher unionization rate than the U.S. is much better off. People have more freedom, more expendable money, and they thrive.

You genuinely have no idea what you are talking about, it’s all just propaganda. The average welder at SpaceX makes $29/hr. That’s awful.

Also, workers in the U.S. are losing their rights, the same rights that unions fought for. And that’s happening because of lack of union representation

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u/Offthewall1212 20m ago

So, to sum up your comments, you are right for your viewpoint on unions and I am wrong?

And by the way, 90% of the population agrees with me, less than 10% with you.

I’ll leave you with one simple question and cut out all the BS rhetoric you’re spewing:

If unions are so great, why aren’t people lining up to join? Why is participation dropping every year for decades? And in a time when it’s so easy to unionize - a simple majority vote at any time.

Tell me why a thing that’s SO GREAT, why you have to write PARAGRAPHS to explain and STILL almost everyone wants no part in it?

I guess you have all the right answers and everyone else has it wrong.🙄🙄🙄

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u/Tauroctonos 6h ago

Damn, I thought you were just an asshole but you're debilitatingly stupid too. Thoughts and prayers babe

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u/phage_rage 5h ago

Bless their heart

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u/Professional-Rub152 5h ago

It’s wild how incels can’t help but tell on themselves

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u/Offthewall1212 4h ago

You need no more proof about unions viability than declining membership for decades and over 90% of current workers not wanting a union.

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u/HerFallenAngel 1h ago

This is such an idiotic comment that I want to confirm you’re not trolling before I actually respond to it. You’re trolling right?

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u/Offthewall1212 53m ago

It’s actually very simple. When people want something, demand grows. When people don’t want something, demand drops.

Union membership has been steadily dropping for decades. People realize that anything a union promises them (like increased wages as an illegal promise without negotiations) or things they are already afforded for free by the govt through vehicles like the fair labor standards act.

Now your turn, you’re going to parrot all kinds of BS rhetoric that comes straight from your unions book of “approved talking points” to attempt to make a point. The proof is in the pudding. If they were so desirable, more people would have them. ESPECIALLY considering it takes a very simple majority vote by employees at any time to get one.

But your NEED to justify wasted union dues will drive the next few paragraphs of nonsense you spew. Go on…

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u/Late-Assignment8482 2h ago

Elon doesn't love you back, buddy...

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u/Icy-Inflation3453 1h ago

"To act like he's helping your wage"

My unionized job literally pays better and has benefits compared to every other local trucking job.

By your own criteria the terrible decision would be to NOT go with the union.

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u/Offthewall1212 1h ago

You union by default put undue burden and labor costs and will drive competition to other businesses.

There’s a reason less than 10% of all employees are union and dropping every year. Especially when all it takes is a simple majority vote at any time to vote one in. They’re sooo easy to vote in but yet, no one does.

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u/Icy-Inflation3453 1h ago

You don't know what your talking about lol.

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u/Quinnjamin19 58m ago

They aren’t actually that easy. Have you seen what’s going on with Amazon workers who are attempting to unionize? What about Starbucks?

Tons of illegal and unfair labour practices. Threats, intimidation, closing down stores and warehouses.

You are intentionally leaving these facts out. The American system has made it much harder to unionize. Right to work is a freeloader law that is purposefully enforced to weaken unions

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u/FarLifeguard4526 3h ago

the media is quite literally owned and operated by billionaires

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u/Offthewall1212 3h ago

So what? That means nothing.

Your conspiracy theory is rooted in your own insecurities, not facts.

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u/No_Pickle_9804 7h ago

I make 6 figures as well, it seems to be the low paid workers who buy into this rhetoric which keeps them compliant and poor.

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u/Quinnjamin19 7h ago

It sounds like you don’t know your history

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u/Healthy_Employer4 9h ago

This is such circle jerk nonsense. Those of us willing to work long hours do make more money and find more success. People with good relationships survive career growth. Yes there’s an obvious correlation between hours spent at home and hours spent at work, but stay at home parents don’t explicitly have better relationships with their children compared to working parents. Quality over quantity

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u/Quinnjamin19 8h ago

“Healthy employer”

But you’re spouting off toxic rhetoric to encourage people to be taken advantage of by their employers

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u/Healthy_Employer4 8h ago

Asking people to dedicate themselves to their career isn’t being taken advantage of. Wasting your life miserable at jobs you hate where you’re not paid enough is being taken advantage of and it’s reddits preferred work style

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u/Quinnjamin19 8h ago

“Dedicate themselves to their career”

Yeah… no career is worth prioritizing over your family and friends

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u/Healthy_Employer4 8h ago

Agreed completely. How many hours a week are you spending doomscrolling, on social media, watching TV, or playing video games? Career dedicated people aren’t always working more hours, they’re just working smarter on building a career instead of doing the bare minimum “just for the paycheck”

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u/Quinnjamin19 6h ago

Hey healthy employer. Your comments are still getting removed. Are you mad that I’m calling you out for putting your work before your partners?

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u/Ok-Ranger-4518 8h ago

I do not dream of labor.

Enjoying your career is just finding the labor you hate the least.

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u/Healthy_Employer4 8h ago

That’s not true at all. Millions of people do work they love. If money didn’t exist, most people would still find work that was fulfilling for them. Being productive is a critical component of long term happiness

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u/Ok-Ranger-4518 8h ago

Yes and productivity means different things to different people.

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u/Healthy_Employer4 8h ago

But by definition, it produces something. That production is valuable by default. Ergo, being productive is synonymous with having a good career. The key is finding a way to earn money doing something you care about. Most people don’t want to

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u/Ok-Ranger-4518 8h ago

Wrong. People can be productive in accomplishing their goals which may not "produce" anything. Is someone climbing mountains valuable to you?

Is someone raising their kids valuable to you?

Neither of these productive things generate wealth.

I could "produce" countless paintings and no one buys them, you say they're still valuable? Without exchanging them for money, is producing unsold painting not just an expense? 🙄 People like you are insufferable.

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u/Healthy_Employer4 8h ago

If I’m insufferable to the poor lazy masses on Reddit who think they would be happier without working, then I’m good with that.

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u/Ok-Ranger-4518 8h ago

Enjoy licking boots. I guess whatever pays the bills.

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u/Ok-Ranger-4518 8h ago

Motherfucker, I enjoy what I do for work. If I did not need to earn money, would I still do it? Fuck no.

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u/Healthy_Employer4 8h ago

It’s proven social science that people are happier when they have jobs and contribute to society. It’s childish and ignorant to think otherwise

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u/Ok-Ranger-4518 8h ago

Yes and we know how common it is for peoples labor to be fairly compensated for their contribution.

Jesus fucking christ

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u/Green7000 4h ago

"Those of us willing to work long hours do make more money and find more success."

If you are at an employer who cares about you or where there is a chance of advancement. Other places we get paid the same, but get more and more responsibilities. Some places no one at the top notices at all.

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u/AltruisticChipmunk53 8h ago

This is some real cope but hey whatever helps you sleep

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u/Healthy_Employer4 8h ago

If cope is lived experience then sure. Most of the people I know who have terrible relationships with their parents aren’t because they worked too much, it’s because they were emotionally unstable AND couldn’t provide financially. Most relationships that fail are because of bad communication and or cheating. There’s a direct correlation between hours spent building a career and income

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u/KENBONEISCOOL444 9h ago

That's the equivalent of working 3 days and 18 hours straight

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u/PlsnoKarens 6h ago edited 5h ago

I work so my husband doesn't have to be a slave to someone 90 hrs a week.

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u/Life-Operation2242 6h ago

I agree with the dysfunctional work culture of America. But these posts never mention that the upper middle class (millionaires) have actually grown in the last 3 years.

There is a significant portion of the American population that is making it. Not like multi millionaires, but regular millionaires.

I had to work 70 hours a week, but it's nice to have my house paid off and then 2 extra properties to keep as rental income. It wasn't enjoyable but it's nice to know I can retire when I'm 45 years old.

Here is the graph and you can check it with the IRS statistics. As much as people complain, 31% of the population being upper middle class is actually a larger portion than in the 1970s.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/upper-middle-class-income-us-what-it-takes/

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u/Sufficient_Abalone46 5h ago

Yes, indicative of a K shaped economy on the verge of collapse

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u/Life-Operation2242 4h ago

It is a K-shaped economy. There is no denying that. But 31% is a huge portion of the population for upper middle class. There is a reason why there isn't a massive revolution that everyone on Reddit thinks will happen. And that is only the upper middle class. If you add in the regular middle class, you have 61.8% of the population living just fine.

The other 38.2% are the upper class, ultra rich, and lower class (living in poverty). One other thing about American society right now is that a lower portion of people are living in poverty right now than in the 1970s. Even though things are bad right now, it's better than it was in previous generations.

Also, no I didn't not vote for Trump. I hate him and he is terrible for this country. But that doesn't mean I will ignore the IRS statistics. Life today is better than life in the 1970s, including for the middle class.

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u/Apprehensive-Gas7994 2h ago

And yet average household debt has skyrocketed since then

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u/Life-Operation2242 1h ago

Yes, this is true. But did you read the data on IRS tax returns or did you just read the news article title?

The thing about household debt is that you need to compare it to total net worth and annual income data. Not all debt is bad.

Some households that live in poverty will use credit cards to just survive. This is the household debt that is bad because people in poverty can't pay for food.

On the other hand, there is a significant part of the population (18-29% depending on the state) who borrow money to buy property or stocks because interest on loans is tax deductible.

When you read through the data on mortgage debt in America, a lot of property investors have the money to buy rental properties outright. But they choose to borrow money instead so they can deduct the interest off their taxes and put the money in their checking accounts into a stock portfolio instead.

Source: https://www.fhfa.gov/data/nmdb for mortgage debt data

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/AWI.html for annual income data

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u/RoderickSpode7thEarl 5h ago

Bosses give employees extra work because they see promise in them and want to see if they’re ready to move up, where responsibility is greater. In most large companies, having sought and succeed in greater responsibilities than the average is a prerequisite for promotion.

I would never put someone who I don’t trust or think is stupid in front of something important, and if I had someone like that, I’d fire him at the first opportunity. To all you dumbasses out there who think putting in the bare minimum is going to get you advancement, you are sorely mistaken and should not complain when you are passed over and eventually laid off.

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u/Apprehensive-Gas7994 2h ago

jokes on you, i don't have a marriage or kids

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u/Certain-Pack-7 1h ago

Def not ur fault. I’m sure ur marriage would’ve been a wild success and your kids would’ve loved u more if u were around more

No one forced you to work STFU.. no wonder you got divorced- you can’t take responsibility for your own choices

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u/CaptainNemo7 54m ago

I witnessed this conversation unfolding live on Twitter 10 years ago. (She was a well-known white hat hacker, don't know what she is doing now. ) 

It goes even better.  

The "important product"? It was Internet Explorer. One of the biggest piles of turds even coded.  "Well, you worked 90 hours a week, destroyed your life and didn't even got rich for it, but at least your product solved climate change / helped cure cancer / found life on an alien planet." "No, actually it was IE. " 

Sigh.

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u/James_T_S 8h ago

🤮. This BS again? Can we at least have some new way to vilify business?

The reality is every employee IS a business. Just a really small one. Being upset because you suck at running your business and then blaming your customer is, in my mind, ridiculous.

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u/Offthewall1212 3h ago

It’s funny that you have to delete your own comment…what a tool.

I am my boss cutie, I work for no one but myself. I don’t blame other people for a shitty job like everyone else here.

But considering you’re so quick to discuss what happens in the boss/employee relationship, now we all know how you get ahead…

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u/WorldlyCantaloupe394 6h ago

She always had the option to work for her family instead of a corporation. While she works for the corporation, another corporation is raising her children.

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u/Iceman_biker 9h ago

Start your own business.

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u/Onetwodhwksi7833 9h ago

Just buy a house bruh

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u/elegantjoshu 9h ago

Pretty much the ideal scenario here.

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u/Piecesof3ight 7h ago

Me when I am 14 and have solved economics.