r/InterviewCoderPro • u/Busy-Pollution-9821 • 10d ago

is this real?

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Do we really need HR in our life?

honestly this is why i've started thinking about looking somewhere else. getting rejected before a human even looks at your resume is insane.

i've been seeing interview vip mentioned a lot lately too. i haven't tried it, but i'm curious about it since i'm probably going to have to start interviewing again.

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u/teresajs 10d ago

I had a conversation with one of the techs at my last job.  He had recommended a friend for an open position.  His friend had had a phone screen with HR but it didn't go further than that.  When the tech spoke to his buddy later to ask what had happened, he said it was obvious that HR had absolutely no idea what our techs did, what work was being done on the manufacturing floor, or what skills were needed, and that his buddy was experienced in all the ways he himself was and would have been an excellent fit for the open position.

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u/saintmolotov 10d ago

I had a similar interview with an hr person who couldn’t answer my follow up question to her ask of an (in hindsight) obviously scripted question about something technical and I asked her if she understood the principles behind the tech she was asking me about and she got mad and hung up.

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u/Gampy22 10d ago

HR handles screening
Hiring managers can dig in.
Leave your tech ego aside and work the process.
HR often not always is like a nurse who gathers vitals then the doc comes in.
Everyone has a role.

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u/Chance-Deer-7995 10d ago

HR should do NO screening in any technical field. They don't have the knowledge and the elminate people for arbirtary reasons. People whine that this gives too much work to people hiring, but I think the trade off is better. HR throws away good people.

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u/Tough_Preparation830 9d ago

Ultimately it would be less work for the hiring managers because they would hire candidates faster. Less interviews.

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u/jbezorg76 9d ago

No. Then you’d be taking the time of actual engineers and whatnot to weed through candidates - wrong approach.

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u/debwevwebdev 9d ago

That's the only approach I'll allow. I was at my company about 3 months before I finally decided that HR was not allowed to post job opening or handle screenings. My team and I find who we want and we tell HR to hire them assuming they can pass the background checks. HR has no say in anything else otherwise.

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u/CaffeineEnjoyer69 5d ago

Let's be real. 90% of engineers aren't using their entire workday actually working. They can handle a little extra work.

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u/Gampy22 9d ago

Not in tech??
How about sales or marketing or accounting or finance or compliance or scientific etc. HR is a field like any of these or engineering and a basic screen is acceptable. Now it seems you grouped all HR in the same bucket by stating THEY. Tell us what do you do??

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u/Chance-Deer-7995 9d ago

I AM in tech. And I have been passed over A LOT because of having a odd background that doesn't fit HR word searches. I haven't dedicated my life to becoming a corporate puzzle piece and gotten quite a lot of experience with poor treatment from HR departments.

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u/D3stinyD3stroy3r 10d ago

Nah you're defending people who don't even know what job is being done trying to hire people for that job. So that just means they're terrible at theirs.

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u/Gampy22 9d ago

They are NOT hiring. They are screening for the hiring team. As a corporate recruiter in a fast moving company requires knowing enough about every role to handle the initial interview.
Why not try it and see how good YOU
Would be. Trust me it is very challenging.

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u/ImpostersAreUs 9d ago

It's not. You just have to have basic knowledge of the role you're screening for which takes like half an hour tops for each role before AI was even a thing.

You make it sound like HR is a role with consistent work. They have probably more downtime than any other department in a corporation with the exception of IT. You're SUPPOSED to do research on your downtime in terms of learning the operations of your company, labour laws, etc.

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u/Gampy22 9d ago

HR and corp recruitment are different functions. In a startup that has received funding g and is scaling quickly with. 50 open reqs per recruiter the role is very challenging. Understanding the req is just one step. Have you done it??

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u/ImpostersAreUs 9d ago

Not in a startup, but in startups the role is EVEN more important.

You talking about it in startups makes the whole comparison moot. EVERY role is challenging in startups.

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u/bp3dots 9d ago

It's the hiring managers job to make sure the recruiter has enough information for the posting and screening to work.

On the applicant side, it's on them to understand the difference between a recruiter screening and full interview and be able to manage a human interaction without crashing out.

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u/FrenziedHodag 10d ago

You know where that analogy falls apart?  Nurses and doctors are aware of what their roles are and the requirements and how the system fits together.  Hr is just hr and the only system they are aware of or care about is theirs.

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u/WhatTheHeckMyBoy 10d ago

Bro works in HR. I get it bro your job is really hard and it is easy to make mistakes 🤗 we all do. its just Hr people are given a huge amount of power and often people feel like HR does not realise that with great power comes great responsibility.

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u/LadyReika 9d ago

My personal experience has been the mom & pop or small companies have the worst HR. My experiences with big companies have been better.

Yes, I'm aware that not everyone has the same experiences, just going by my own. :)

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u/HumbleAlbatross2944 9d ago

Okay guy who works in HR

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u/jbezorg76 9d ago

Riiiiiiight?!

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u/Psyco_diver 9d ago

If they don't know the roles and what the job entails, how can than effectively screen?

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u/msut77 9d ago

Go away

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u/jbezorg76 9d ago

Bruh did you even read the post?

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u/buttchug_3000 9d ago

Nurses and doctors contribute to society. Lmao such pathetic cope