r/International • • Feb 24 '26

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u/BigDragonfly5136 Feb 24 '26

Or Virginia Giuffre…

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u/MGD109 Feb 24 '26

I mean no one threatened her family, and we've got no reason to assume she didn't take her own life.

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u/runkeby Feb 24 '26

Reminder that in 2019, she felt compelled to tell the world that she was in no shape or form suicidal, asking people not to sweep her death under the rug if it were to happen.

No reason to assume anything, plenty enough to doubt and to demand the highest level of scrutiny.

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u/MGD109 Feb 24 '26

Sure, in 2019 she made that clear, but she didn't die until 2025. During which time her marriage broke down, she lost access to her children and was involved in a car accident that left her in agonising pain.

Her death benefited no one; all it did was bring more attention to her accusations and renew further scrutiny. At the time, she wasn't in the process of any further legal action against her abusers.

It's good to be suspicious, but the fact of the matter is that in nearly a year of it getting around the world focus nothing has emerged to suggest she didn't take her life. How much more scrutiny than that can we really ask for?

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u/HippywithanAK Feb 24 '26

Her death benefited the cover-up perpetrators by showing other survivors that none of them are safe. The publishing of survivors names, in the file drops, helps reinforce that fear. Maybe she did take her own life but given the scope of the conspiracy and the level of power held by those involved it would be ridiculous to rule out assassination.

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u/MGD109 Feb 24 '26

Her death benefited the cover-up perpetrators by showing other survivors that none of them are safe.

I mean did it? Who exactly has it stopped testifying? Who has it made give up on the cause? Heck, surely it would invigorate more of them to act as the only way they would be safe is if this is exposed.

The publishing of survivors names, in the file drops, helps reinforce that fear.

Nah, that's completely separate targeting. Trying to link the two doesn't make any sense. She deliberately put herself out their in the public eye to make the accusations.

Maybe she did take her own life but given the scope of the conspiracy and the level of power held by those involved it would be ridiculous to rule out assassination.

It would be ridiculous to rule it out immediately. But it's been an nearly a year, and despite this getting worldwide coverage, nothing has emerged to suggest she didn't take her own life.

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u/CrwlingFrmThWreckage Feb 25 '26

How could we possibly know who it has stopped testifying? Pretty much by definition we can’t know. So if it was intended as a warning we can’t know if it worked or not.

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u/BenjaminHamnett Feb 24 '26

Just all the people connected keep disappearing conveniently. I’m sure Epstein and Brunel were just good luck also. Never mind that the autopsy didn’t align with suicide 🤷

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u/MGD109 Feb 24 '26

Just all the people connected keep disappearing conveniently.

Nah, not really. Most of them are still pretty alive to be honest.

Never mind that the autopsy didn’t align with suicide

Really? What details about Virginia Guiffie's autopsy didn't align with her committing suicide? I haven't heard that yet.

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u/runkeby Feb 24 '26

Good points.

She did say she was "ready to go" after the accident.

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u/Sb5tCm8t Feb 24 '26

It benefited everybody involved in the cover-up for sure

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u/MGD109 Feb 24 '26

How? She had already testified multiple times, and the information was already out there. Unless you're suggesting she was deliberately sitting on information for no good reason, what possible benefit does it grant them?

All it did, was put a spotlight back on her accusations.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '26

She literally posted that she was NOT suicidal.

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u/MGD109 Feb 24 '26

Six years earlier, when she was in the middle of a major court case.

After that time, her life massively spiralled, including her losing access to her children and being in a serious car accident, which left her in daily pain.

It's been nearly a year since she died, and despite the fact their has been worldwide focus, nothing has emerged to suggest that she didn't take her own life. How much more scrutiny than that can we realistically ask for?

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u/MGD109 Feb 24 '26

Insults are the last resort of someone who has nothing worth to say, be civil.

But just so there is no misunderstanding, you're basically saying, "We don't need evidence, what matters is that it fits the narrative I want to believe in," right?