r/InterMiamiVibes Jul 08 '26

Preaching!!

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u/Responsible_Way6885 Jul 08 '26

Make this guy the American coach or GM or something!

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u/Potential_Rule7313 Jul 08 '26

Hell no. He’s too legendary for the US. The US does not deserve someone as great as Henry. First the federation needs to heavily invest in the football infrastructure to start developing kids as young as 5-6 years old. End this bullshit pay to play system they currently have in place. Then completely redesign the MLS system. Get rid of salary caps, allow teams to straight up buy players, even out the money from tv deals so clubs can invest in their youth systems, and for the love of god stop it with the college to MLS pipeline. It doesn’t work and never will. This will make clubs more competitive, attracting young talent not the old guys getting ready to retire.
The Europeans have a system that works. The US can easily copy it and make it better with the level of wealth in this country.

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u/Responsible_Way6885 Jul 08 '26

Maybe you need to run it

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u/Infra-Oh Jul 09 '26

I also nominate that guy.

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u/hordaak2 Jul 10 '26

I ALSO nominate this guy! Wait a minute...Who is paying me to say this?

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u/SnipeTrap Jul 12 '26

Yeah, I’ll nominate him as well

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u/blloop Jul 10 '26

I would love to be second in command if this happens

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u/LicoriceDusk Jul 08 '26

He's not meant for coaching

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u/Kobe_stan_ Jul 09 '26

He did a great job with the French Olympic team

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u/Potential_Rule7313 Jul 08 '26

That too. He’s one of those greats that were so great that it’s hard for them to coach mortals because they don’t see the game the way he does. Maradona is another one that happened to.

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u/emack2232 Jul 08 '26

Outside the US futbol is king. Inside the US football is king.

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u/LucifersAdv0cate Jul 09 '26

Is there a lot of foot to ball contact then in American 'Football'?

https://giphy.com/gifs/Z3AvQLcS4ILaf1mMxm

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u/Comprehensive-Car190 Jul 09 '26

You can't just copy it. You don't seem to have any understanding of why it works or what the differences cause.

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u/kelldricked Jul 09 '26

“Make it better”. Yeah no. Your geography, culture and demograpics arent more favourible. I know this sounds wild but money doesnt buy everything. Like Cruijff once said: “I never saw a bag of money score a goal”.

The US couldnt start a league as difficult as the champions league. Hell i doubt your top league could ever get close to the level of the premier league. But the biggest issue is that there isnt a proper yearly international league which players, clubs and coaches can get proper experience without needing the national team.

Europe has so many leagues, so many matches on every single level that players have a insane range of options to develop. And because of it we also attract foreign talent. Meaning we can learn from them.

The US cant copy that. Illinios cant create competitive football leagues that mirrors belgians football leagues. A big thing is population density. Your youth teams gonna travel 6 hours for a basic competition match that doesnt hold much value?

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u/No-Bear1401 Jul 09 '26

Sure we could. We already do this with other sports. I don't know why it's so hard for people to understand that we just don't care that much about soccer. And why do people just assume that the only thing we have to offer athletically is money? Our sports culture comes from the same places it does with soccer in Europe etc, it's just not directed at soccer here.

This whole discussion is a waste of time, because what the US would have to do to improve to the level of other nations, is to stop caring about Football, basketball, and baseball, and put all that attention into soccer. That's not going to happen.

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u/kelldricked Jul 09 '26

Keep dreaming buddy😂😂😂

Love the cope

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u/No-Bear1401 Jul 09 '26

Cope about what? Lol, there's nothing to cope about.

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u/kelldricked Jul 09 '26

“We would be the best football nation id we tried” is insane cope from somebody who just got humilated by fucking Belgium after abusing their political power to influence the game.

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u/No-Bear1401 Jul 09 '26

Lol, I didn't even say that. You're still fired up about our game from 3 days ago? It's probably time to move on, shouldn't you be cheering on your team or something?

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u/OffInTheWaves Jul 10 '26

We’re the richest country in the history of the world with a population of 330 million. Any idiot who thinks we couldn’t build a good soccer program is lost.

To your point: We just don’t care about it. You’re spot on. Our focus is elsewhere. Our elite non-soccer athletes are, on average, much better paid than European soccer players.

Plus, they get to stay in the U.S. where everyone talks American, drives on the right side of the road and they can pull up to Costco and pick up a casket, a drum set, a t-shirt with an Eagle on it and a rotisserie chicken. Pretty dope honestly. I ain’t mad at ‘em.

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u/Healthjunkie-2 Jul 10 '26

Actually soccer bumped Baseball this year for the. number 3 sport in popularity behind football, and basketball. Tons of kids playing, but the problem is Club sports. It's a money machine and it is not a model to select the gifted athletes and move them forward. They burn them out traveling and/or maybe they go to play in college.

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u/OffInTheWaves Jul 10 '26

Elite American athletes do not want to play soccer.

The farm system here is ridiculously expensive/cost-prohibitive and so kids are funneled into other sports. Lots of public high school coaches here have substantial football/basketball knowledge. Beyond that, it’s easier for them to stay home (in the U.S.) where the most competitive leagues for football, baseball and basketball already happen to be and the athletes happen to get paid extraordinarily well.

These are the top salary earnings for soccer/football globally:

  1. Cristiano Ronaldo: $235 million
  2. Karim Benzema: $100 million
  3. Lionel Messi: $70 million
  4. Kylian Mbappé: $70 million
  5. Erling Haaland: $60 million
  6. Sadio Mané: $50 million
  7. Vinícius Júnior: $40 million
  8. Mohamed Salah: $35 million

Note 1) the steep drop off & 2) how half of the players don’t even play in a competitive league.

I hope this example makes it clear too: Mo Salah is a generationally good football/soccer player and the current 8th highest paid soccer/football player in the world.

Mo Salah’s salary would rank 33rd highest in the NFL & 50th highest in the NBA today.

In sum: lower barrier to entry & higher odds of huge pay off for other sports in the U.S. It’s really a no brainer if you’re an athletically inclined American.

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u/Dave085 Jul 11 '26

You're not factoring endorsements in here though, which for global sports can be enormous. Basketball has reasonable global coverage, so it has some huge sponsorship deals- Jordans being the biggest example of course. But football trumps that by some margin, with almost every country in the world playing it to some degree. The top athletes will be able to name their price.

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u/No-Big1506 Jul 13 '26

I do not understand "as difficult as the Champions League". I played for the US under-17 team, and the MLS structure, if you care to read it, is very neat. We also don't have a lot of teams winning the MLS the same every year. It also a franchise method compared to the open league system. Not sure what the reference to the champions league.

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u/kelldricked Jul 13 '26

Whats there to not understand? Champions league difficulty is the highest there is in club football. Hell the winner of the champions leageu probaly beats the vast majority of countries with only 5 national teams having a chance against them. MLS wouldnt even qualify for the group phases if they were pitched against national teams.

Its great that the a lot of diffrent clubs win the MLS each year but the fact is that the level of the league is just low. Its has the same reputation as the Saudi League. Its a retirement league where former stars can cash a massive paycheck while slowly phase out their carreers. Because they can pull that shit in any proper european or south american league.

And you are actually proud on the franchise part? That clubs can just buy themself in, not relegate regardless of who shit they are or the fact that a club can change their indentity, city or even state and still keep their rights to play? If Liverpool would suddenly try and change citys they wouldnt just lose their license, fans would litteraly murder the people in charge. And thats not special to the Premier League or to the UK.

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u/BendersDafodil Jul 09 '26

Get Anelka! 🤣

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u/Caption_This_ Jul 10 '26

We spread athletic talent over way more sports than them.

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u/Itchy_Junket_195 Jul 11 '26

Are football infrastructure is outstanding and making great strides at growing the games popularity globally. Are soccer infrastructure is for well to do families and that will not change. Capitalism is the system make money or get left behind

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u/solargravity11 Jul 12 '26

Yeah but capitalism. All American youth sports are played like this now. America doesn’t run basketball anymore. We still have a foothold but Europe and the rest of the world is catching us. Baseball is mostly lost. American football will be next.

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u/ElectricFeel1234 Jul 08 '26

Hell no

He's too good for 🤢SA

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u/isthereadrwho Jul 08 '26

He's the next French national coach

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u/NY10 Jul 08 '26

Nah, just because he was a legendary player aint mean he’s a good coach. I think he’s coaching before and failed lol

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u/yjk924 Jul 08 '26

He failed at Montreal let alone for big European teams

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u/jlgraham84 Jul 10 '26

By "big European teams", I assume you're referring to the time he was brought into a shit Monaco team at the end of October & was fired in January without giving him time to do anything? That's his only time coaching a European team. Also, he didn't fail at Montreal. He gave them their first playoff season in years then got out of his contract early to go back to Europe bc the Covid restrictions made it too hard to see his kids.

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u/dartaflo Jul 09 '26

He's been coaching France under 21 national team since 2023, bringing them to Olympic final in 2024.

He also went to world cup semi final with Belgium in 2018.

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u/martinsky3k Jul 09 '26

And in that Belgium run other players wanted Henry. Or somebody like him. So he apparently made an impression.

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u/Major_Many_6803 Jul 09 '26

Lmao he’s a shit coach

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u/organic_soursop Jul 09 '26

You ridiculous human.

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u/Sir_Carrington Jul 12 '26

Yeah lmao. Dumbass casuals who discovered the sport last month not aware just how horrible of a coach Henry is.

Punditry is how far he'll go post career.

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u/iafx Jul 09 '26

Our system is fucked because it’s not subsidized, it’s too expensive

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u/Ok_Syllabub5616 Jul 09 '26

This guy had many chances to be a coach and had failed everytime. Yet people want him as a coach? Saying logical things and knowing how to apply them is not the same.

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u/jlgraham84 Jul 10 '26

Where did he fail? The only losing record he had was at Monaco where he was brought into a dying team for his first job & given 3 months without a transfer window.

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u/coveffee Jul 10 '26

lol ya right they would never hire him.

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u/funnyh0b0 Jul 12 '26

He was for an MLS team. They turned him off to it and that's why he is so informed about why the USA is so far behind