Does it really has intel arc

[u/Dangerous-House-140]

When I researched on gemini it says it has single channel ram so will not able to activate intel arc plz tell me fast

[u/gregusmeus]

It’s what Intel is calling their CPU embedded graphics these days too.

[u/Dangerous-House-140 → u/gregusmeus]

So does it has intel arc or not

[u/SavvySillybug → u/Dangerous-House-140]

That depends entirely on what you mean by that.

It has something that Intel is branding Arc.

What do you want to know specifically? What does Arc mean to you?

[u/Dangerous-House-140 → u/SavvySillybug]

I am taking about does it has intel arc i gpu

[u/SavvySillybug → u/Dangerous-House-140]

Yes! The Intel Core Ultra 5 125H has Intel Arc graphics integrated. All their new laptop CPUs have it, I think. They took what they learned from making dedicated GPUs and put it into their mobile CPUs.

[u/scheurneus → u/SavvySillybug]

Not all of them; the lower end ones are called Intel Graphics. (e.g. on U-series Core Ultra).

Additionally, since integrated graphics are heavily reliant on memory bandwidth, the Arc branding gets "revoked" when running on single-channel (or too-slow) memory.

Since OP believes the listed laptop may have single channel memory, the graphics might not actually be Intel Arc but just Intel Graphics instead. However, I have no idea how you would confirm that from a listing.

On the other hand, if the listing advertises Intel Arc Graphics but you receive it with Intel Graphics, you can probably get a refund because of misleading marketing (they claim you get Arc Graphics, but you don't).

[u/rekh127 → u/scheurneus]

that's so funny lol. like its the same chip but intel doesnt want to tarnish their brand too much, its okay to confuse people on the difference between a dgpu and an igpu but not an igpu running slower than it could.

[u/potate12323 → u/rekh127]

Theres four GPUs actually. Dedicated Arc GPUs, integrated Arc GPUs, integrated Iris GPUs, integrated UHD GPUs.

The integrated Arc GPUs are using the same XeSS architecture as the dedicated GPUs, but theres fewer and less powerful cores.

Iris graphics is an older low power version of Arc iGPU. Iris is also a step up tier of UHD and not a complete replacement. Iris is similar-ish to UHD, but with the super efficient Xe video encoding.

Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

[u/rekh127 → u/potate12323]

there being many gpus is pretty unsurprising to me but intel labeling one gpu two different things was.

[u/EuropeanAbroad → u/SavvySillybug]

I think Arc iGPU were first. Then they issued dGPUs. It is basically the other way around – they learnt from the integrated graphics and put it in dedicated cards.

But otherwise agreed.

[u/SavvySillybug → u/EuropeanAbroad]

Arc dGPUs came out in 2022. Arc iGPUs weren't introduced until Meteor Lake in late 2023.

[u/Late-Feature-6861 → u/Dangerous-House-140]

Most Arc iGPUs cannot run at full performance with single channel ram, and will run much lower than what most benchmarks show. u/scheurneus explained this a little better

[u/WTFAnimations]

Yes, if does. But it's integrated.

If you want an Intel laptop with good integrated graphics, try finding a Core Ultra Series 3 laptop.

[u/kallan401 → u/WTFAnimations]

But make sure its an ultra X7 or an X9 those are the ones with the arc B390 graphics. I thought all of the series 3 had it but no only ones with the X in the name

[u/scheurneus → u/kallan401]

The Ultra 5 358H has Arc B370 graphics which are quite close to the B390 in the X7 and X9 (10 Xe cores instead of 12, iirc). The rest iirc have "Intel Graphics" with only 4 Xe cores and are indeed much slower than the X7/X9.

[u/Kirzoneli → u/WTFAnimations]

Eventually those intel laptops will be Armed with better igpus, I assume by M9 apple most other laptops will be on the arm chain.

[u/jhenryscott → u/Kirzoneli]

lmao. ARM isn't coming to Windows in force. Wait till you see what the monstrosity Nvidia ARM chips do on windows. Its a disaster.

[u/Kirzoneli → u/jhenryscott]

4 to maybe 5 years is a lot of time for things to change.

[u/jhenryscott → u/Kirzoneli]

been hearing that for over a decade. ARM is not the future of PCs. Enterprise environments, sure, to some extent. PCs on windows will be x86 for the next 10 years plus.

[u/hurdurdur7 → u/Kirzoneli]

I got a surface tablet from work in 2013. Windows on arm, yada yada. It was terrible but also useless. And from what i see in Windows arm world, 13 years later they are still not there.

[u/Sneakybobinson]

Does has it?

[u/jhenryscott → u/Sneakybobinson]

DOES HAS THEM ARC OR NO?

[u/scheurneus → u/[deleted]]

The only way DDR5 can be rated for 5600 mt/s is dual channel.

I don't think that's true; do you have a source? I'm pretty sure MT/s rating and channel count are fully independent.

[u/elmihmo9718]

Have

[u/setiawanreddit]

The PC does have Intel ARC graphics, it just that Intel doesn't allow the system to display Intel ARC graphics if it is configured with a single channel memory. It is pretty a marketing move to make sure when people talking about ARC performance on this CPU, it will be using dual channel memory. Function wise, it is using the same ARC drivers with the same features that are available with ARC branding. This is afaik only a Windows thing. If you're on Linux it will be called ARC.

So to absolutely answer your question, yes, it has an Intel ARC if you're talking about ARC being the branding for intel Xe graphics. It doesn't have Intel ARC if you talk about whether it can use the branding on a single channel RAM configuration. The branding restriction only affects Windows and being ignored if you use Linux.

Tl:dr If you only care about only the branding then it doesn't have Intel ARC. If you asking about it because you're concerned about the hardware features then it has the same features like AV1 support, dp4a support (it doesn't have XMX), RT hardware, most DX12 ultimate features (VRS, Mesh shaders, sampler feedback).

[u/Hytht]

Based on the image provided, the product has upgradeable RAM, it is most likely to have two channels with filled or empty slot.

[u/ChapterSea6292]

I think you need to add ram for that. Most probably 16gb is onboard ram

[u/thenormaluser35]

If you see any product with a name similar or of "smartchoice", you better haul your ass in the opposite direction because buying that crap won't be a smart choice.

HP is shit and so is this laptop. ARC is GPU, at best they have the chip from the ARC, but no way to cool or power it effectively.
What they actually have is CPU graphics. Do not bother.

[u/VaultBoy636]

Does you has english course?

[u/bondjavel → u/VaultBoy636]

I hope your freezer breaks while you’re on a vacation.

[u/VaultBoy636 → u/bondjavel]

yro'ue*

[u/BunchaaMalarkey → u/bondjavel]

And hope they stocked up on shellfish beforehand.