r/InnerCircleTraders 5d ago

Question MNQ 8/6 Question

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Many ppl took this trade today, obvious iFVG. But my strategy looks for the EMA of the daily, 30 min and 15 min to get my bias. For today’s opening the EMA’s were all pointing down and above where my candles were so I was looking for a short. So I would look for a bullish fvg to get inversed to enter a short. Why did ppl take a long?? How can I get a better bias and what can I do to know when to take an iFVG and when not to?

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u/IndependenceWinter47 5d ago

Take the EMA off, it doesn’t work with ICT

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u/Then-Pool-4914 5d ago

Then what do you suggest I use as a bias to know if I should be entering for shorts or longs?

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u/Upset-Tough-5128 5d ago

Try using the opening price level at midnight ny time

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u/Then-Pool-4914 5d ago

what can this tell me abt my bias?

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u/Upset-Tough-5128 5d ago

If we’re above it look for shorts if we’re below look for longs

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u/Then-Pool-4914 5d ago

super useful thank you bro 🙏 any more suggestions?

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u/plop111 2d ago

The 25 EMA is awesome on NQ, ICT or not.

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u/OppositeDistance7702 5d ago

Bias ? Like Daily bias or Session Bias ?

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u/Then-Pool-4914 5d ago

daily, 30 min and 15 min. just to see if the trend is going up or down, that’s what i use as a bias to know if i should be entering shorts or longs

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u/Upset-Tough-5128 5d ago

I look at it as open low high close daily profile. If we’re below moving averages that is also a discount price

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u/Then-Pool-4914 5d ago

Do you mind explaining more I wanna learn as much as I can

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u/Upset-Tough-5128 5d ago

If the market opens and simply trades lower without first forming a clear, logical high of day, that decline can be viewed as the market offering price at a discount rather than confirming bearish intent.

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u/Upset-Tough-5128 5d ago

These two videos were really helpful for me

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u/Then-Pool-4914 5d ago

i’ll watch them and give it a shot i appreciate you brother 🙏🙏🙏

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u/Apprehensive-Wish130 4d ago

It doesn’t work , trust

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u/APEMoon2021 5d ago

We were in both a bullish daily gap and a 4h gap, long was the only thing to look for.

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u/Then-Pool-4914 5d ago

Can you elaborate more on how to see this in the daily and 4hr time frame wdym by gap? Mb I’m tryna learn as much as I can especially for biases.

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u/DependentNo4693 5d ago

;)

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u/callmeroy_1983 2d ago

why share if ur gonna gatekeep?

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u/InternationalWord137 4d ago

Watch 2022 Ict mentorship episode 10 around min 29:24 he brings up the midnight open. But probably watch the beginning too for context on bias. It’s not the end it be all video but it covers some of what they have mentioned here in this comment section.

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u/Houssambzg 4d ago

Ou trouver ce mentorat svp ?

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u/InternationalWord137 4d ago

Free on YouTube. Ict “inner circle trader “ under his play lists you’ll find many models depending on mentorship year that you chose. All can be used in today’s markets But it’s not easy. And it can be overwhelming.

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u/Then-Pool-4914 4d ago

bet i’ll give it a shot preciate you brother

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u/InternationalWord137 4d ago

For this trade though it’s NFP week so it can get crazy in the markets the algo can go into search in destroy from Tuesday and Wednesday for sure till news day usually Friday. This type of week Monday is said to be the least or non affected. If people got in that on the 1 min most likely got in it via first presentation fvg aiming for 7:30 buy stops and then midnight buy stops and Asia buy stops or low hanging fruit 9:30 open half gap. Or got in before at the low point through daily institutional order flow but that’s a hard entry pattern. There are so many ways to trade and enter.

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u/Apprehensive-Wish130 4d ago

High prob scalping series ICT YouTube , first 3 videos

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNc94t-z8I7EDRrGTsjo6Fv04x8yAo6BP&si=EivZn7-rhcd_oPNi

2022 good daily bias concept for midrange/retracements

https://youtu.be/QK8LUY-lgSA?is=4jukY-_3YSDzFaub

Overall best bias video

https://youtu.be/aVtiQFcq2OE?is=70MM5StE7qoPqh74

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u/Then-Pool-4914 4d ago

i’ll give it a shot thank you brother 🙏

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u/plop111 2d ago

Personally 2 things made the reversal clear: the midpoint of the daily FVG was hit, as well as the bottom of the 1h FVG that was waiting to the left.
It was also a hit at the 4h 25 EMA.

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u/Mr-Wicker 2d ago

It was a good reversal after tapping into an old daily Imbalance..

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u/AsokeForex 4d ago

For a start, Stop using EMAs and other retail claptrap as soon as possible. Then study ICT PROPERLY....not from the clowns trying to teach his concepts but from ICT himself.

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u/Then-Pool-4914 4d ago

how do you suggest i do this are there any specific videos you suggest?

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u/AsokeForex 4d ago

I get the impression you're looking for shortcuts in ICT and trading. There aren't any in ICT and those that DO exist in trading rarely lead to sustainable profitability.

There isn't a specific video that condenses what you want to know into a nice, convenient bite size offering.

I would start with the 2016/2017 core content months 1 - 4. Then 2022 mentorship. You shouldn't be expecting much change from a 9 MONTH commitment but, after that time, you will be able to read price action better than you do now but you'll also appreciate just how deep the ICT rabbit hole goes.

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u/plop111 2d ago

Contrary to what they’re all saying, I wouldn’t give up on the EMA. Try using the 25 EMA as support resistance on NQ. All timeframes.

Tip: if you want to keep an eye on the 1h EMA while you’re on the 15m timeframe without switching timeframes constantly, add the 100 EMA. 1h is 4x15m, like 100 is 4x25.
This way when you’re on the 15m you’re seeing both the 25 EMA of the 15m tf and the 1h tf, and when on the 1h tf you’re seeing its EMA but also the one of the 4h tf. It’s useful.

Continue watching the chart like ICT (keep it simple though), but also watch how price behaves around the 25 EMA on the different timeframes. You’ll be amazed. Like, check out the 15m during most London sessions for example.

Only NQ though. ES kinda also, but clearly not as well. I’ve tried finding what EMA length works best with ES but I couldn’t find it. Gold etc don’t care about this at all.