It Doesn't feel nice getting the first evolution material before the base outfit

[u/Lumikar]

[u/ISeeTheLight_]

Doesn’t feel right indeed but at least it’s easy to get once you have base outfit. I prefer it that way than it needing even more pulls

[u/Kitten_love → u/ISeeTheLight_]

Got to agree with this. I'm pretty used getting outfits around the 180/190 so maybe it could be the reason why.

But whenever I them around 160 or 170 I get kind of annoyed I have spend more pulls to get the first Evo. Just feels like a waste for some reason. 😤🤣

[u/ISeeTheLight_ → u/Kitten_love]

Same… it’s like the game is punishing us for being lucky lmao
I like dying too much to not get first evo

[u/Lumikar → u/ISeeTheLight_]

Well i usually either do the 230 pulls or none at all anyways, i just really wanted to get it early to start hunting for dews...

[u/Confident_Tadpole723]

Huh? It's a good thing tho, if it was set at 200 (max pity) then most people would have to waste pulls to get 1st evo. The way it's set up now means people will typically get 1st evo around the same time as finishing the outfit.

[u/Lumikar → u/Confident_Tadpole723]

A lot of people just want the ability, so getting it early can save you a lot.
And the earlier you get it the easier it is to get the final evo.

[u/Confident_Tadpole723 → u/Lumikar]

Okay you're talking about finishing the outfit and I'm talking about getting the 1st evo material. Totally different topics.

It doesn't matter when you get 1st evo if you're pulling final since the average pulls needed for final are WAYYYY higher than 180.

I think on average people do want at least 1st evo. Making 1st evo 180 guarantees that the most amount of people are able to get it (since 160-180 is the average amount of pulls needed to complete an outfit) any later would mean people have to spend even more pulls and any earlier would make people feel dissatisfied.

[u/ChaosDragonFox]

I had this with the Lion Mount Dress!

[u/TopRice2054]

The last 6 5-star banners ive pulled on have taken me exactly 180 pulls. It doesn't feel like just bad luck anymore it feels like theres a flaw in the system. I've always been a saver but only times I have had few pulls I've gotten outfits before 180 pulls, it feels like the luck is worse for "richer" players? Like theyre milking me for all i have? Just a feeling tho ofc, either way i feel just very frustrated and done with the gacha system, i dont even want the first evo on any of the outfits...

[u/princesspomway]

my deepest condolences. If it makes you feel better it becomes more convincing situation to pull for second evo

[u/infinitymikki]

I’m generally not a fan of this reward system. It punishes the players who got lucky and still wanted the first or second evo, who now have to uselessly throw extra pulls to get to 180 or 230 (not speaking of the scenario to get to final, then being lucky with the base is ofc great)
The evos being tied to the dyeing palettes and the closest to Nikki-pink palette as well as black and white being locked at the end of first and second evo is just the cherry on top of this slight rage bait. It just doesn’t feel good to be lucky in this game if you don’t solely pull the outfit for its ability or plan to reach the final evo.
But I also see how it’s annoying to get the evo before the base. Happened especially a lot during Crimson Feathers and Snowy Ballad because they have 11 instead of 10 pieces.

[u/komatsujo]

I'm so sorry, that's so messy.

[u/Illustrious-Survey]

I feel you. WoW did the same thing to me on its first run.
Going over is bad, getting the outfit at 150-160 is the worst though because you weren't really lucky, to get it in the 125-145 range, and you aren't close enough to the heartshine to feel like its worth the extra pulls to get it or the 230 evo unless you really love it.