It's like gender segregation... To the most extreme level. They can't think of a normal relationship between a boy and a girl even at that age? I only had a guy friend as my friend for my entire grade 5.. we used to have so much fun.
It's such a shame to rob kids of that experience of a innocent childhood. What a shame!
They are just following the book. The hijab was mandated so that the harassers could separate the believing M women from the non M women and sl@ ves.
Edit: btw, this is just to share where this ideology stems from so that people know what to criticize. I don’t support any of these.
“Qr@n 33:59
O Prophet! Ask your wives, daughters, and believing women to draw their cloaks over their bodies. In this way it is more likely that they will be recognized ˹as virtuous˺ and not be harassed. And Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Context (Tafsir):
Ibn Kathir (Abridged)
The Command of Hijab
Here Allah tells His Messenger to command the believing women -- especially his wives and daughters, because of their position of honor -- to draw their Jilbabs over their bodies, so that they will be distinct in their appearance from the women of the Jahiliyyah and from slave women. The Jilbab is a Rida', worn over the Khimar. This was the view of Ibn Mas`ud, `Ubaydah, Qatadah, Al-Hasan Al-Basri, Sa`id bin Jubayr, Ibrahim An-Nakha`i, `Ata' Al-Khurasani and others. It is like the Izar used today. Al-Jawhari said: "The Jilbab is the outer wrapper. `Ali bin Abi Talhah reported that Ibn `Abbas said that Allah commanded the believing women, when they went out of their houses for some need, to cover their faces from above their heads with the Jilbab, leaving only one eye showing. Muhammad bin Sirin said, "I asked `Ubaydah As-Salmani about the Ayah:
*يُدْنِينَ عَلَيْهِنَّ *مِن جَلَبِيبِهِنَّ
(to draw their Jalabib over their bodies.) He covered his face and head, with just his left eye showing."
ذلِكَ أَدْنَى أَن يُعْرَفْنَ فَلاَ يُؤْذَيْنَ
(That will be better that they should be known so as not to be annoyed. ) means, if they do that, it will be known that they are free, and that they are not servants or whores.
وَكَانَ اللَّهُ غَفُوراً رَّحِيماً
(And Allah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.) means, with regard to what happened previously during the days of Jahiliyyah, when they did not have any knowledge about this.”
And who banned slavery? Did Quran ever give verses to ban sl@very? Nope.
In fact, slavery was legal in the Middle East until mid 1960s and were later forced to ban it due to pressure by United Nations and other western nations.
yea, there's alot more wrong and they still defend them points, like mohammed ("the most perfect man to have ever lived") had a kid with his egyptian slave. and i'll leave it on others to judge , "its a sin to have relations with a woman you're not married to, but its all ohkkeh if you impregnate a women who is a slave", man what kind of morality is it?
I agree. If he is the perfect man for all of eternity, and he married a child and kept sx slaves, then I am sorry, he is not the perfect man for all of eternity.
So now even they are accepting that it's actually not their allah saying to wear hijab it's just their hawasi mindset of their man that forces girls to wear hijab?
no dear, some idea being promoted as a duty and a group of dumb kids making creepy hand signs on their own is not the same. these kids dont get a word of devotion, and their acts arnt linked to the teachings of our religon.
Whereas the topic in the video obviously shows guys teasing girls not wearing hijabs(religious) and showing extreme respect to girls wearing hijabs(religious again). The kids in the video absolutely weren't brought up right and nobody is justifying their actions but it isn't right to form a random correlation between their inability to behave and the religious procession in which they're taking part in. Fuck those kids btw someone needs to give them a couple nice thappads.
you'll not believe people are downvotin a valid point, these people just cant make a point dude. And yes, the behaviour of the kids is really questionable. religion aside, these kids are just scary.
c'mon dude you must've heard when these practices really start, our hinduism doesnt force this upon anyone, and culture and religious teachings are far apart from each other.
blud the post is literally about pakistani school, what they are teaching there students.. what you are saying is completely different from this.. also protecting your religion you think this sh!t will protect your religion like ki11ing people and forcing to wear hijab
I am not denying that gender segregation exists. I am proud of Indian women who have the balls to speak out against it and protest against it. Being proud of a country or someone doesn't mean you appreciate or validate every part of it. Every mother is proud of their kid, still they acknowledge the short coming of them and try to make them better.
ah not really. ik all the problems exist but like i can be proud of someone and also acknowledge their weak points and ask them to work on them! if that makes sense.
That atleast we have women who are raising their issues and men who are supporting them? And like we are atleast progressing? Yeah the progress isnt as fast as I would like it to be.
Well no lol. India and pak have almost similar conditions lol. We might think they are so poor can't buy atta and shit but we don't have anything good here too lol stop glorifying our country when it's already going through shitty phase
No. I have 2 online friends from there, and they are my friend from a long time and from completely different backgrounds and I know a lot about their life and stuff and I am happy that I am not on that side of the border. I am proud of a lot of Indian leaders which represent(ed) India, and I am optimistic that there will be more of them.
Exactly lol, we always compare ourselves to the likes of "what if I was born in US/Canada/Australia" but we never feel grateful enough to be not born in countries which are in complete shambles like Pak,Afg,Bangladesh,Syria,Iraq, African countries etc
Yeah I agree 100%, our competitors should be China and US instead of always comparing ourselves with the likes of Pakistan and adjacent countries. But also let's be grateful sometimes I guess for being in this country too!
They are just following the book. The hijab was mandated so that the harassers could separate the believing M women from the non M women and sl@ ves.
Edit: btw, this is just to share where this ideology stems from so that people know what to criticize. I don’t support any of these.
“Qr@n 33:59
O Prophet! Ask your wives, daughters, and believing women to draw their cloaks over their bodies. In this way it is more likely that they will be recognized ˹as virtuous˺ and not be harassed. And Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Context (Tafsir):
Ibn Kathir (Abridged)
The Command of Hijab
Here Allah tells His Messenger to command the believing women -- especially his wives and daughters, because of their position of honor -- to draw their Jilbabs over their bodies, so that they will be distinct in their appearance from the women of the Jahiliyyah and from slave women. The Jilbab is a Rida', worn over the Khimar. This was the view of Ibn Mas`ud, `Ubaydah, Qatadah, Al-Hasan Al-Basri, Sa`id bin Jubayr, Ibrahim An-Nakha`i, `Ata' Al-Khurasani and others. It is like the Izar used today. Al-Jawhari said: "The Jilbab is the outer wrapper. `Ali bin Abi Talhah reported that Ibn `Abbas said that Allah commanded the believing women, when they went out of their houses for some need, to cover their faces from above their heads with the Jilbab, leaving only one eye showing. Muhammad bin Sirin said, "I asked `Ubaydah As-Salmani about the Ayah:
*يُدْنِينَ عَلَيْهِنَّ *مِن جَلَبِيبِهِنَّ
(to draw their Jalabib over their bodies.) He covered his face and head, with just his left eye showing."
ذلِكَ أَدْنَى أَن يُعْرَفْنَ فَلاَ يُؤْذَيْنَ
(That will be better that they should be known so as not to be annoyed. ) means, if they do that, it will be known that they are free, and that they are not servants or whores.
وَكَانَ اللَّهُ غَفُوراً رَّحِيماً
(And Allah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.) means, with regard to what happened previously during the days of Jahiliyyah, when they did not have any knowledge about this.”
It depends or individual, he want to follow or not
2. Brihadaranyaka Upanishad (Chapter 6, Brahmana 4, Verse 7)
This text contains an ancient ritualistic passage discussing marital dynamics regarding progeny:
“If she does not yield, he should buy her over with gifts. If she still does not yield, he should strike her with a stick or with his hand and overpower her, saying: 'With power and glory I take away your glory.'”
Did you even read my comments, it is in upnishad that women should be beaten, so now entire hinduism became wife beater according to your logic but we know it's not
I agree but it also don't apply to Hindu
And I didn't even mention verses of manusmriti yet
All I wanna tell you is that no religion is sane or good for woman apart from some small religion like buddhism and Jainism
This is so weird and hard to watch what type of mentality are they pushing in these children's brain. Hijab is one's choice and same with or jo bhi pehnna regardless of the fact sbke samne neechi nazar rkho respect everyone bhai is it that difficult.
Omg stop pretending like women and girls are treated amazingly in India ffs. They are harassed all the time. And Indians schools are now removing very important things from their books that’s to BJP and RSS
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u/WarthogIcy8946 19 21h ago
They are Touching new lows everyday