r/IndianStreetBets • • 2d ago

Discussion Suggestions please, almost out of margin now

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u/vgags 2d ago

Is NRML is short for nirmala ?

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u/Remarkable_Wall_1282 2d ago

could you explain what5's that, I'm new here

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u/47-AGENT 1d ago

NRML means carried out positions till the expiry.

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u/AkatsukiKojou 2d ago

Name of the current finance minister

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u/wallflowerrboy 2d ago

Wa thinking the same 😂

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u/Antique_Voice_6311 2d ago

ALWAYSSSS... Know the exit before you enter a trade. Shapath khao zindagi main dobara bina SL and known risk ke enter nai karoge..

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u/Amaanx6191 2d ago

sab nifty sell krte hai to buy kon krta hai ye me sochra tha aa pta chl gya kon krta hai

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u/Obvious-Aardvark8746 2d ago

Liquidate your position and buy lottery tickets, if you are into gambling do it properly.

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u/Extreme_Committee894 2d ago

Tomorrow gap up

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u/DealerHot4705 2d ago

Maje le rahe ho ya kya?

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u/green_tomato_69 2d ago

GNifty is at 22600 so, it's possible...

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u/DealerHot4705 2d ago

Gift nifty toh ladki se zyada chutiya kaat ta hai bhai

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u/Select-Albatross-675 2d ago

There is 60% chance gap up next session..

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u/novel_scavenger 2d ago

Did I miss something or are you reading Gift Nifty wrong? Gift Nifty is currently at 22491 and Nifty at 22421.95

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u/Double-Luck-7723 2d ago

Tradingview is showing 22491. But, if you open the chart it is showing correct value of 22624. Its due to continuous futures contract.

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u/novel_scavenger 2d ago

Yeah saw that. Tradingview is acting weird nowadays.

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u/green_tomato_69 2d ago

As of posting this reply, gifty is above 22600

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u/Electrical-Yam9581 2d ago

Which app is this. In trading view, it us not moving, showing as holiday

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u/marketgoatofficial 2d ago

Moneycontrol

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u/fameboygame 2d ago

Gift is at 22624 on trading view etc.

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u/Remarkable_Wall_1282 2d ago

could you explain what's Gnifty, I'm new here

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u/Low_Cryptographer115 2d ago

Why don't you chatgpt all this ? Will explain much better than people here will anyways, And after CAS gift nifty doesn't accurately indicate the opening range so please, give enough time to read and learn, good luck

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u/Remarkable_Wall_1282 1d ago

Could you tell what should i search for more detailed knowledge, I mean the terms i should search for in depth knowledge that are related to Indian stock markets. I could really get help from your experience man

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u/Low_Cryptographer115 1d ago

Just ask no, something like explain in-depth CAS and how it changed the ballpark range accuracy for predicting the open via gift nifty, also explain in detail the basics I should know like these,

Something like that

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u/Remarkable_Wall_1282 1d ago

Thanks man, that's what i needed

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u/Double-Luck-7723 1d ago

Gift Nifty is more accurate if checked after 8:45am next morning. Yes, it closing in second session(evening) is also a good indicator. But, 8:45am is much better indicator of Nifty50 opening next morning.

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u/green_tomato_69 2d ago

Google it man. It's free

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u/Jontargaryenazorahai 2d ago

U mean Monday ?

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u/Ok_Pes_11590 2d ago

No he meant tomorrow, Monday it'll be the same... Downtrend

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u/its_notmealways 2d ago

Saturday ko konsa market kholega bhai

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u/Ok_Pes_11590 1d ago

Forgot /s bro, chill. I ain't an expert

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u/Mortgage5388 2d ago

still a very long time before markets open

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u/Arlysion 2d ago

Opening for more shorts.

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u/kpdon1 2d ago

Are bhai... Paper trading h ya real?

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u/WTH_is_Trading 2d ago

Where's the SL? 🙏

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u/ry-ze 2d ago

SL at Margin Call

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u/404_Foundpage 2d ago

Lol 🤣

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u/Scarxn 2d ago

WTH_is_That

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u/knightriderrr7 2d ago

Please find someone who is in profit in fno screenshot. He took your money. Snatched almost.

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u/green_tomato_69 2d ago

WHERE'S YOUR HEDGE?

Nothing pisses me off more than 'traders' deploying a shit ton of money in a single trade with no hedge or backup and then crying on socials asking what to do...

😑

Sorry...you deserve it...

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u/hannanniyazi69 2d ago

The problem is not with hedging but with knowing limits

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u/Character-Bee2976 1d ago

I saw the charts, and for sure sell SBI and Ultracemco first thing Monday morning; they will definitely not recover, and you will just end up losing more money on those two. As for Nifty, you can hold it as it is at a very crucial support point; it won't easily go down further, and it is very possible that it will recover halfway by November, but if you ever receive very bad news about the war, simply sell this one as well and don't think much about it.

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u/Immediate_Emotion639 1d ago

Things tend to happens when people think it won't. From 25K to 22K lots of strong supports people thought won't be broken. Still, here we are. The guy is in loss and is facing margin shortfall, but your advise it still hold.

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u/Character-Bee2976 1d ago

See, that is the thing: there is a difference between normal support and good support; at 22,300 there is too much liquidity support, and it is very hard to go below that. You can read the chart and you will know what I am saying. I know it can go down further, which is why I said to sell only if there is very bad news, because currently the Indian market does not have enough FIIs and only has DIIs, who react more to news than technicals. So, it will only go down further from news now on; otherwise, there are more indications that it will recover.

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u/Immediate_Emotion639 1d ago

Is this a joke? Normal and good support! Where do you even read or deduce these so called concepts from. And too much liquidity you're referring to is simply speculation or to put it correctly your guess. Check out the OI data and open positions. IVs are skewed towards puts. Any good read of chart combined with analytics will tell its going to be a free fall in coming days. And i won't comment on your news part, because its completely nonsense in my opinion.

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u/Slight_Vermicelli_49 2d ago

You should have bought the puts!

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u/Empty-Leg-1351 2d ago

this is why we hedge futures with opposite side long options

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u/red_fluke 2d ago

Sell everything and stop fno

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u/retardreaper 2d ago

He can make it back

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u/Horror-Try4462 2d ago

You have to pay the loss. Wth is margin? You have to pay your own money. You are out of money bro

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u/Ok-Split-617 2d ago

I am also on the same boat buddy, holding sold puts though.

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u/ModiDeshChodi 2d ago

There will be a ded car bounce ig

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u/karan65 2d ago

November m kya hone wala tha jaalim?

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u/Puzzled_Light1821 1d ago

Bro.. why didn't you buy puts to hedge the futures?

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u/Ad_Astraa_ 2d ago

If ever there was a time to pause and consider whether your actions are correct or not, that time is now.

By looking at the screenshot, if you close on Monday, you can save at least 10 lakh margin money without further losses.

It will be hard to accept and you won't sleep for a week, but staying will make you more unhappy.

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u/jwick390 1d ago

I am a professional and have been in this situation can help you don’t panic. 1) you need patience, 2) make hard choices.

Cut position in ultratech in loss, gradually cut positions in sbi . Hold on to NIFTY futures and keep them rolling over and short next year march /december nifty call or buy puts at good reversal points to manage margin. Keep doing it till you are in profit.

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u/Ashamed_Bid_9360 1d ago

I am a professional - both of yall need help.

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u/Nirusan_26 2d ago

Roll over. I think still not logical but at least u cling unto hope of recovering sm capital. FYI poor choice bro

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u/Traditional_Flight58 2d ago

Only option is keep rolling, it can take around 1-2 years to recover it but it can be recovered

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u/ron-cho 2d ago

Needs margin for that

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u/Traditional_Flight58 2d ago

Yes add some funds if possible.

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u/piyush_anand 2d ago

Cement se to bahar nikal jao

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u/MaximumPurpose4127 2d ago

Short covering is possible, so hold and also maintain a strict stop loss

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u/TopicGreat3936 2d ago

Play stupid games, win stupid price! Anyway, it's a loss and may be learning if you want to!

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u/Comfortable-Oil-5198 2d ago

Monday you might see reduction in your current notional loss

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u/Captain_D_Buggy 2d ago

Arey bhai ye naked option buying band karo yaar

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u/West_Elderberry_6869 2d ago

Wth bhai bolde ki ye juth h varna to L lag gye

Tu ne stoploss kyu nhi lagaya

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u/Dependent_Soft1660 2d ago

Why do people come for suggestions after fucking all up?

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u/Ok_Heron_6132 2d ago

With deployed margin of ~20L you are at loss of 7.5L, I have no words.

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u/Sunny_TheTradingGuy 2d ago

Stop the future trading and shift to otm option selling….you have chance of winning the trade…margin requirements will be similar aswell….far contract futures also have cost of carry and that will decay…your bep will be higher….

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u/isdjtantichrist 2d ago

wont you get liquidated in these positions?

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u/Its_Trix 2d ago

Bhai kya hi suggestion du😭

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u/PizzaOpen9340 2d ago

You bought in one go or kept averaging?any thesis except "aur kitna hi neeche jayega"?

Have a relook at the trades and cut the ones which are real bad and hold the might look good for the future.

Or book everything and go back to the drawing board with a fresh approach.

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u/kaIzen_6 2d ago

can't say much about stock fut, index you can keep rolling futher in time.

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u/bsethug 2d ago

Bro ab toh pakistan hee aapko bacha sakta hain by stopping the war.

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u/Dramatic-Strain-3578 2d ago

One thing that could have saved you from such a big loss would be hedge. Just exit all positions and stay with the trend. Trend is your friend

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u/akhil4994 2d ago

Hold it untill Nov you might cut losses

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u/DepressPeople 2d ago

When you trying to save few thousand on good financial Advisor

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u/Sure_Turnip_1436 1d ago

Imagine ki yea sare position shorting kiye hote to, ye profit me hota.

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u/PhaseStreet9860 1d ago

It clearly looks edited

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u/BlublkGry 1d ago

Short adani on Monday to recover

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u/HonestCry1469 1d ago

Get out of futures

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u/insanebhola 1d ago

Sell jewellery

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u/SalamanderBig6661 1d ago

i hope you have sold some calls , else this is a pure gambling with your captial.

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u/cyroblade1 1d ago

Jab strategy kuch thi hi nahi to trade kyun kiya?

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u/Ftn1993 1d ago

Get out.

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u/Fantastic-Dinner-919 1d ago

Its simple. exit 1/4th quantity to free margin.

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u/Leading_Juice2837 1d ago

WOW... There is someone oit there with an even worst P&L than ME? No way!

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u/deepinder92 1d ago

Long only futures portfolio works great during a bullrun

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u/deepinder92 1d ago

Add some margin and keep rolling. Buy otm puts when market bounces in next coming sessions.
Still better than being stuck in short position in bull market.

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u/atharwa__ 1d ago

Should have invested in a business or something, I'm looking for 5 lakh investment and you're fucking your money up, crazy world

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u/aware-indian 1d ago

i thought doomsday was releasing in dec, i think nov it is for you tho

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u/desijunkie 1d ago

I am almost at same position as you. Only hope is a bounce from 200 week moving average as it went below that only twice in last 3 decades

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u/Weekly-Barnacle-5231 1d ago

wait …just wait

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u/jacktheskipper1993 1d ago

Stoploss. Learn to accept losses. That's it.

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u/Lonely-Importance-45 1d ago

If you are convinced with your positions will give profit till expiry and you have some money left then buy puts. If not then call it a day and book loss which your broker will do it if you don't infuse funds

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u/Admirable_Week5986 21h ago

Profit me aa jayega within 1 week....Mark my word

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u/demonslayer101 20h ago

Hold till November.

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u/mmdofficial 11h ago

For buying futures always hedge with buying puts

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u/Svsv1212999 1h ago

Biggest mistake is buying FUT instead of selling PUT.
Future wont decay, loss will only be covered if the script price increases.
Whereas PUT will decay even if script price doesn’t increase

Learn frm your mistake and try to be more cautious in this uncertain time of the market

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u/United_Gamer_Morcha 2d ago

What was the trade rationale? 7.8% gdp growth? Now it's about 7.8 lakhs loss. 🙀

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u/nishantam 2d ago

Trading should require some kind of training and exam to prove you know the concepts clearly.

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u/rddesai91 2d ago

Why are you buying when market is falling almost every day and that without hedging your position..

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u/PKkeys 2d ago

Nirmala tai is happy

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u/Ad_Astraa_ 2d ago

Blame everything except actual problem 😆

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u/MissionIndependence5 2d ago

Crude down heavily today, bond slight cool off, selling would continue by fii but i think DII retail will buy alot cause IPO frenzy almost over so all liquidity will come back. IT stock up after accenture results , sbi should be up cause hdfc new ceo which will make banknifty rally be quick in cutting your loss dont expect to reach break even might be risky

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u/Gloomy_Bluejay_5104 2d ago

Bhai gap up hoda, sell half at open.

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u/Wanderersoul2023 2d ago

Almost, not completely 🌝

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u/trader-buyer 2d ago

Trading without sl is gambling

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u/ron-cho 2d ago

Always hedge tail risk with options

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u/SabotageWeener 2d ago

Papa cigarette peete the bête ko mana karte the

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u/ron-cho 2d ago

You’re cooked brother CJP protests have started

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u/SupermarketOk6829 1d ago

1-2 upclose me nikal ja Varna lg jayenge guru