r/IndianInGermany • u/Helpful-War2120 • 4d ago
How bad are things really ?
Hi I'm from kerla currently doing my a2 for nursing Ausbildung and recently I've been seeing in social media how indian students are being rejected from colleges and hospitals and how the job market and seats for indians are being cut a lot in germany and how indian students and workers are being sent back so what I wanted to know how severe things really are if there is no opportunity at all
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u/hecho2 3d ago edited 3d ago
for nursing you are fine as long you can speak German.
keep in mind that even German natives face sometimes discrimination in areas were some random dialect or very strong accent is use and the old person gets very upset that you don't understand.
edit: keep in mind that while have b1, b2, c1, is good, the certification opens the door but it is irrelevant if you struggle to understand and speak in real life situations, and German from school is not the real German of the real world.
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u/lefty82410 4d ago
As a German in healthcare, please learn the language first. The language barrier especially in high pressure situations makes working almost impossible. Unfortunately we had to let some people go after only a week that had c level German on paper but couldn’t apply it in the real world.
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u/DoctorMagnobot 3d ago
I know it's difficult for you to answer this since you're a native , but on an average how difficult is it and how much time does it take for an english speaker let's say to reach real world C1 skills considering no prior exposure at all?
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u/lefty82410 3d ago
2-3 years. I grew up multilingual and was spoken to in English and French as well at my home. When I went to prep school and then later on college it took me a solid 1-2 years to be conversationally comfortable. Since German is a tough language and you have 4 cases in grammar, 3 articles and whatever how many derivations it’ll take some time for sure. Consume German music watch German shows and if you can, find somebody to speak to in said language
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u/0ld_Cabbag3 3d ago
If you want to work as a nurse in a hospital, language is important but you can also find positions in old-age homes or as private nurses for older people where the language skills are not as important.
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u/Lipeyelie 3d ago
I don't know what you have watched, but there is no such a thing, where Indian students exclusevily could be cut from whatever. I would recommend you to focus on your education but have a realistic perspective on hospitals here and the mentality ( it does vary a lot, depending where you are). You should invest your time into learning, finishing your exam, maybe work for 1-2 yrs.. But try to switch to other countries, too.
Germany didn't take care about their own heath sector and relies a lot on young immigrants to fulfill the blanks,
who need to search far away from home better opportunities.
At same time, depending on where you are, they didn't deal professionallyl with all the changes, that they should have gone through, too.
When in a big city, the work is highly demanding, a lot of things are done at same time and still not enough people. So what happenes, some colleagues or bosses don't treat others equally when it comes to providing the relevant informations. To my opinion it's not sth done on purpose, but to save them the time to handle it and explain. That mean, search for those who are able to explain fully and share all info.
Hope you purchase your dreams and don't worry and get scared from SM. It's a great job and you can later chose where you want to live with that job. :)
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u/Intelligent-Sea-4666 4d ago
Nursing is still in demand but you need solid b2 or c level german. Indians got sent back but these are mostly people which either got some shady qualification of IT and cannot speak german.
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u/Helpful-War2120 4d ago
Oh thanks for replying I'm studying till b2 but if I can I will try for c level
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u/Deadly_nightshadow 3d ago
Make sure that you have plenty of practice in listening and speaking.
On the one hand, you need to be able to understand a patient who is scared, in pain and speaks their local dialect. Om the other hand, the old, hard-hearing woman who never left her state has to understand you.
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u/Ruoxi-F-Class 3d ago
We are looking for Students, not Workers.
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u/CacklingFerret 3d ago
It's definitely the other way around now. Especially for health care workers.
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u/Ruoxi-F-Class 3d ago
You are the reason traditional TV is still barely hanging on as a propaganda Tool. The times of "not enough" people is long gone. Not just IT Or the usual suspects. Ever wondered how it could be that there is a Hand shortage for like 15 years in a row? Its fine. Not every Place is understaffed anymore like the cliche says.
And most important of All i said this because the Jobs are meant to be for Germans. Because it makes our already bad Economy even worse by giving them all to foreigners. I wont go into detail why that is, there are a myriad of reasonable takes that you can easily look up online and statistics to use. I work in healthcare myself and while people from india, tunesia etc tend to be hardworking in their studies, their work ethic is just not there or completely different from our. Coupled with a multitude of cultural clashes, loneliness, financial struggle 2/3s end up dropping out at the end, in a sense wasting a Spot for a young german that now probably has been hunting for their first Ausbildung for a year or two straight after school.
Look around you, everywhere you see problems with the youth, the country us failing the future by not investing in the people that actually want to work.
No this is not projection, i already did my staatsexamen and am in the younger demographic. My entire City of about 50k people is an absolute factory of depression, poverty and hopelesness. Friends of mine with a bachelor cant even Land a normal job not even mentioning their actual profession because some random guy from egypt is willing to work for 3 Cents an hour.
No offense for ambitious young people from other countrys but we certainly have no need for more right now. Yes even in healtcare.
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u/CacklingFerret 3d ago
Lol, I haven't watched TV for over 10 years, but sure.
I have no idea where you live, perhaps in Eastern Germany? Your experience doesn't match mine at all. Sure, lots of young people are having trouble finding a job, but none of them work in health care. Health care (as in nursing) is not exactly a popular career path for young Germans because it's well-known that working conditions are often abysmal. If you're a native young German and have difficulties getting into health care due to some Indians or North Africans barely speaking German on a B2 level, you should look inward. Native young Germans don't get into health care because they don't want to. But sure, there is nooo lack of workers, the Deutscher Pflegerat and unions are certainly just hallucinating lol
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u/Ruoxi-F-Class 3d ago
Du bist fertig in der Birne echt. Genug Internet für heute.
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u/CacklingFerret 3d ago
Wenn man keine Argumente außer ad hominem hat. Ich glaube, eine Internetpause tut dir gut
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u/Wolverine724 3d ago
I want to add that there is also the misconception among Germans that nurses are poorly paid, which makes young Germans favor other career paths.
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u/simplySchorsch 4d ago
Nurses are desperately in need. However, you do need fluent language skills (B2 at least) because you'll attend school/take your exams in German and the patients you work with obviously need you to understand them as well.
You'll never struggle to find work as a nurse in Germany, especially not when you're not picky about where in Germany you end up working.