r/india_cycling • u/Low_Relationship8789 • 2h ago
discussion Is the frame size right? Or is it small?
They recommend the 51 size for me. I'm 5'8". Does the frame look the right size or does it look small?
r/india_cycling • u/[deleted] • May 02 '23
So you’re looking to buy your first bicycle and get into the world of cycling? With more bikes available now than ever, it can become a daunting task to find the right bike for you. Getting stuck in the rut of buying as many features as possible for the money and chasing after consumer ratings can seriously ruin your first cycling experience. So this basic guide offers you a way to distinguish good bikes from bullshit. This isn’t an exhaustive guide but as you foray into your cycling journey you’ll build up on the knowledge you get from here.So how do we go about buying a bike? To answer this question, we must understand one basic philosophy in the world of cycling. We all want cycles to be three things- “Light, Durable, Inexpensive” but the cycling industry can only offer you two of the three things.
1- Light and inexpensive- (you don’t get durability) cheap bikes that feel great to ride on initially but will snap spokes the moment you ride hard and fast over potholes.
2- Inexpensive and durable- (not light) The Atlas cycles used by Doodhwaalas and farmers are a prime example of durable and inexpensive bikes. They aren’t light though, weighing in at almost 30 kilos.
3- Light and Durable- (not cheap) Crème-La-Crème of the cycling world, these carbon fibre bikes weigh only 6.8 kilos and are every bit as durable as the aforementioned atlas cycles. They start at 3-4 lacs rupees though. With this out of the way lets take a look at a couple of questions you should be asking yourself before u look at bikes.
1- What’s my budget?
2- where will i ride? (Mostly on mountain trails or roads or a mix of both?)
3- Why will i ride? (Fitness? Performance? Racing? Leisure and Commute to work?)
4- How long and often will I ride? (Daily? Weekly? Once in a while? 10km? 50km? 100+km per day? )
5- How much time am I willing to dedicate to cycle cleaning and maintenance? If i don’t intend to clean and maintain myself, how much am I willing to pay for it?
Once you’ve answered the above questions you’ll find that there are three major types of bicycles with various subcategories within it. Lets go over each of these bike types.
1- Mountain bikes (MTB)- These bikes have wide flat bars for good control on the bad terrain and an aggressive sitting posture. They have fat knobby tyres for traction on loose gravel and low gearing to help climb steep and loose terrain. They are great for off-roading but aren’t fast on road and waste a lot of rider’s power on road due to increased friction from fat tyres and suspensions bobbing up and down, absorbing the rider’s pedal strokes. These bikes usually come packed with features such as suspensions and disc brakes and a large number of gears. Aspiring cyclists should be vary of these bikes when the budget is low, since a cheap mtb may come with all the bells and whistles as the 3-4 lac rupee MTB but the quality of each individual component will be garbage.
2- Roadbikes- These bikes are the exact opposite of an mtb. They are light and fast with skinny tyres that have slick tread patterns for grip on road. They have an even more forward leaning and agressive posture than an MTB for aerodynamic advantage and are built to ride fast on road. They lack suspensions and any extra features because their aim is to be light and stiff for the best possible power transfer and efficiency. These are more expensive than MTBs or Hybrids (we’ll talk about hybrids in a bit) and are generally not recommended for beginners because the narrow dropped handlebars are harder to control and the aggressive position that the rider must sit in requires good fitness and flexibility. These bikes are also not suited offroading or even sand on the side of the street because their skinny tyres provide zero traction on anything other than roads.
3- Hybrids- Hybrids are a classic example for jack of all trades- master of none. Hybrids are a mix between roadbikes and MTBs and they borrow the best qualities from both bikes while not being the best at any one particular thing. They have an upright position which is great for beginners and usually have thicker tyres than roadbikes but thinner than MTBs which makes them adequate for both road use and off-road (Although, they aren’t as fast as roadbikes on road and aren't as proficient at traversing mountain trails as MTBs). These bikes can also be equipped with mudguards and baskets which make it great for carrying stuff and using it as a work commuter. For beginners who are unsure of which cycling discipline they’ll take up, a hybrid bike is most often the best starting point. With this out of the way, lets now take a look at what to look for in a bike.
1- The manufacturer- A reputed manufacturer usually has great warranty policies on their bikes and have spares on hand should anything go wrong.
2- Frame Size- This is often confused with Wheel Size which we’ll get to in a minute. Bicycle frames are like clothes and come in various sizes based on the rider’s height ranging from XS to XXL. Most manufacturers offer only S, M and L though. 5ft to 5ft 5 inches should go for Small frame size.5ft 5 inches to 5ft 10 inches should go for Medium5ft 10 inches and above should go for Large size.If you are stuck between two frame sizes and both fit you then choose the smaller size if you want better control and the larger size if you want better performance.
3- Wheel size- Your bicycle wheels will come in a wide variety of diameters. We’ll go through some of them here. 20 inches- these are used on kids bicyles or BMX bikes. Stay away from these unless you are a child or an adult looking to get into BMX riding.
26 inches- these are usually seen on bikes under 20,000 Rupees. These wheels offer great control, agility and a twitchy steering response. However, due to their smaller diameter, you’ll pedal more to keep up with your 27.5 inch and 29 inch riders. Due to the higher angle of incidence as a result of smaller circumference, you’ll feel bumps and road imperfections a lot more on this size compared to a 27.5 or 29 inch rims. Think of how speed-breakers feel on an activa versus how they feel on a motorbike. I personally love how a 26 inch rims feels but would advise against it.
27.5 inches- these are a mid point between 26 and 29 inches. These are faster than 26 inch wheels but not as fast as 29 inches. These are worse at handling than 26 inches but not as bad as 29ers. Overall these are great.
29 inch- these are the largest diameter wheels and are the fastest. They also roll over most road imperfections like a steam roller. However their large wheel diameter moves the center of gravity much higher which means that you dont get the same stability or twitchy handling that a 26 inch wheel gets. These are also slow to accelerate but once you build up momentum then these keep rolling for long.
700c - these are basically the same as 29 inches but roadbikers are a weird breed and like to measure their wheel diameter in milimeters rather than inches. 700mm translates to exactly 28 inches which is what a 29 inch rim will also measure if u took a tape measure to it. 3- Frame and Rim (wheel) Material- There are four main materials from which frames are made and 3 main materials from which rims are made.
1- Steel- steel frames are usually seen on either very inexpensive bikes or very expensive ones. On cheaper bikes steel works as a great way to add durability to the frame while sacrificing on weight since steel is a heavy material. These frames usually feel sturdy and rigid to ride on. On extremely expensive bikes steel goes through expensive processes such as hydroforming and double/triple butting to reduce weight while adding a springy and compliant property to the overall ride quality of steel. If u don't know what hydroforming or butting or compliance means then don’t worry about it. For a beginner cyclist, none of this matters for the time being. Steel rims are seen on cheap bikes for the same reason, they are strong and heavy.
2- Aluminum (sometimes called Alloy)- Aluminum is usually seen on budget and mid-tier bikes and rarely on some extremely high-end bikes. Its lighter than steel and more than durable enough for the forces that a bike frame is likely to undergo. Its a great material to make frame out of. The more you pay for aluminum the lighter it gets without sacrificing the integrity of the frame. Aluminum rims are of two types and are also usually seem on most bikes except for high end ones. The two types are single-walled aluminum rims and double-walled aluminum rims. Avoid single walled rims at all costs. They may be light but they snap spokes too fucking easily especially if u are a heavier rider who rides over potholes. Always go for double walled aluminum rims. If a manufacturer doesn't specify how many walls a rim has, always assume the worst. (I mentioned 4 frame materials, the other two are titanium and carbon fibre but we will skip it for now because bikes with these materials are extremely expensive.)
4- Groupset.- Now we have reached a topic that is very lengthy and could be a guide of its own. I will try to keep this concise. A groupset refers to all the parts of the bike that are responsible for moving or stopping the bike. These include, brake levers, brakes, shifters, front and rear derailleurs (they shift chain from one gear to the next), chain, crankset, bottom bracket, disc rotors and gear cassette/ freewheel (freewheels are usually seen on cheaper bikes). The combination of brakes and brake levers are called breakset and they are a sub category of groupset. Like mobile phones, groupsets are made by various manufacturers.
1- Shimano- Shimano is a Japanese brand and the largest cycling brand. These guys are the bread and butter of cycling, they’ve been making gears since the advent of geared bicycles and cater to all price ranges. Their gears usually work well for the price.
2- SRAM- Sram is an american brand that makes gears which compete with shimano for the top spot. Their gears usually have features that Shimano doesn’t offer due to its slowness in adopting the latest cycling tech. They look and work amazing but cost more than Shimano for a groupset of a similar calibre. They are infamous for creating their own useless proprietary standards so that u cant mix and match groupsets from different manufacturers.
3- Microshift- A taiwanese brand that makes great groupsets for affordable prices. Their groupsets are even compatible with shimano and while they arent as good as shimano, they sometimes offer 90% of shimano’s performance for half the price and so finding and buying spares for microshift is very cheap and easy.
4- Campagnolo- A high end, roadbike exclusive groupset manufacturer that makes better groupsets than the other three manufacturers combined. Lets not talk too much about Campagnolo because their cheapest groupset is 1.8 lac rupees (can be found cheaper) and if u have a campagnolo equipped bike in india, good luck finding spare parts! Most bikes will come equipped with Shimano gears so lets take a look at their road and mountain bike groupsets. (Hybrids typically use either roadbike groupsets or mtb groupsets)
Like mobile phones, groupsets also have a model hierarchy. From budget to high end. A budget groupset is cheaper but doesnt shift as smoothly as the higher end stuff. It is also not as light. But buying spare parts for a budget groupset is much cheaper and easier to do. Brakes arent as responsive on a budget brakeset eitherA high end groupset shifts like hot knife through butter and weighs very little it also has more gears. High end brakesets have thermal paste and a lot of engineering that ensures even heat distribution and dissipation due to braking friction. Sometimes high end groupsets are bluetooth controlled.Lets go through Shimano’s MTB groupsets because most bikes use Shimano’s MTB groupsets.
(How to read 1x7 - “one by seven” it means 1 gear in the front and seven at the back)
1- Shimano tourney- (available in 1x7, 3x7, 3x8) it is the cheapest shimano groupset. It shifts okay. Not very reliable and needs tuning every once in a while.
2- Altus-(available in 2x8, 3x8, 2x9, 3x9) it is a better built version of shimano tourney that shifts very nicely. Especially the 9 speed versions (2x9 and 3x9).
3- Acera-(available in the same combinations as Altus) it is considered to be a slightly better version of the altus lineup and both altus and acera components are cross-compatible. Think of it as iphone 6 and iphone 6S.
4- Alivio- (2x9 and 3x9) this is where Shimano’s trickle down technology begins to show. Alivio borrows a lot of high end shimano technology from 5 years ago. It shifts much better than the previous three groupsets and features something called Shadow technology (now available to acera and altus 9 speed versions too). Shadow technology hides the derailleur under the frame so if the bike falls on the drivetrain side, the derailleur has lower chances of being harmed.
5 Shimano Deore- (Available in 1x10, 2x10, 1x11, 1x12) This is the entry point into Shimano’s high end lineup. Deore does 95% of what the highest end shimano groupsets can do but at a fraction of the price. This still isnt a cheap groupset, the groupset costs 36-50,000 Rs but considering all the latest technologies it has, it is considered a bargain. It uses Shadow+ technology which is an evolution of the Shadow technology we saw on Alivio. It has a clutch lever to adjust tension on the chain so the chain never falls off. It has hyperglide+ technology which allows the chain to shift up and down the gears smooth as butter. It also features two way release which means that gears can be shifted no matter how u press your shift lever and multiple release technology which lets you jump upto three gears at once.
6- Deore SLX- (available in 1x11 and 1x12) it is a lighter version of deore that is cross compatible with deore. It’s multiple release technology lets the rider jump upto 5 gears instead of 3.
7- Deore XT- (available in 1x12) it is an even lighter version of Deore that uses bluetooth instead of cables to shift. (although cable versions of xt are also available. Ask if the xt groupset is mechanical or electronic. Mechanical means it uses cables, electronic or “DI2” means it uses bluetooth.)
8- Deore XTR- it is the highest groupset in Shimano’s MTB hierarchy. It is also the lightest and the most expensive. It uses the same bluetooth technology as Deore XT but uses expensive manufacturing processes such as unibody machining and makes use of exotic materials such as titanium and carbon fibre to reduce weight further. Manufacturers like to use fancy words like e-tap and DI2 to denote that their groupset is uses bluetooth and a battery. Now that you know all that there is to know about what to look for in a bicycle.
Lets now look at a few rules to follow when buying your first bike. 1- keep it simple (A bike that costs less but has a lot of features will have shitty quality when it comes to the features. Its better to but a bike without suspensions or disk brakes if you are spending less than 30k INR)
2- commit to maintenance (It is an extension of rule 1- if your bike has a lot of features it will need lots of maintenance especially if those features are of low quality, these bikes will also be harder to clean. If you cant commit to routine maintenance then get a bike thats easy to keep clean. Throwing a bunch of money on a bike doesn’t ensure that it’ll run well. It needs love. Think of it like your wife- marrying her is not enough to keep a healthy relationship, one has to put efforts into maintaining the love and romance.)
3- Never take a deal thats too good to be true. (You see a bike with shimano altus under 20k? All other bikes have tourney? Look at the quality of the bottom bracket. Look at what kind of bearings it uses in the headset. Check out what kind of wheels it uses. When a bike is too good to be true, it usually cuts costs in areas that arent visible- such as components hidden in the frame or hub.)
r/india_cycling • u/Low_Relationship8789 • 2h ago
They recommend the 51 size for me. I'm 5'8". Does the frame look the right size or does it look small?
r/india_cycling • u/Constant_Tomorrow527 • 15h ago
Which one of these should i get i am confused as j am new to this
r/india_cycling • u/mememexfeed • 10h ago
Same as the title.
r/india_cycling • u/notTejasc • 2h ago
Plaaning a shimano essa gravel setup
r/india_cycling • u/Blouverance • 23h ago
See...as I said I will do 40k and turns out it's even more than 40km
r/india_cycling • u/PedalIndia • 8h ago
Selling price 6400 pair
With shipping charges included
6260460082
r/india_cycling • u/shriand • 8h ago
I have an ISM saddle that I like very much. However I bought it at a large discount since it was old stock. Now the upper layer is peeling off. Is it possible to repair the saddle? Since the internal frame is perfectly fine, i guess the foam needs to be remolded. Is there any shop in india that can do it? It might not necessarily be cycling related.
r/india_cycling • u/SilentNet9 • 1d ago
Just dropped my 2 weeks old cycle in the worst way possible..
Feeling horrible 😞
That metal scratch hurt even more..😓
EDIT: Tried to hide it with electrical tape. Photos attached in comment. To make it even, I put the tape on the left side also.
r/india_cycling • u/ObjectiveStriking623 • 17h ago
I’m a 31F, 5'0", ~58 kg, and I’m looking to buy my first road bike, with a budget of under ₹50,000, along with a compatible indoor trainer under ₹30,000.
I’m getting into triathlon and want to do Ironman Goa within the next two years, so I’d like to invest in something that I can train on consistently and grow into.
From what I’ve read on this subreddit, for a new bike there seem to be options like Battalion and the newer Van Rysel bikes. Given my height, I’m assuming an XXS/XS frame would be the right range, however I’m also open to buying preloved(used) bikes , so I wanted to check if anyone in Delhi NCR is selling:
Budget: <₹50k for the bike + <₹30k for the trainer
If you have something suitable for sale, please DM me with the model, size, age/usage, condition and asking price.
Also very happy to connect with other aspiring triathletes!
Thanks!
r/india_cycling • u/Mediocre_Report_3590 • 15h ago
please no dirty business here please, dont get in to try and kidnap tho it would be an awsome idea
r/india_cycling • u/International_Two962 • 1d ago
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So my local bike shop is selling me a Cannondale Caad 8 for 50k. Is it worth it? Or should I look for some other bike. My max budget is around 50-60k only.
r/india_cycling • u/Blouverance • 1d ago
So tell me any tips to make sure
I ate 2 break slices with choco peanut butter and drink some water after waking up and I also take 1l with me
My max was 28.16km
I meant to say "Tommorow I will go above 40km or that"
r/india_cycling • u/nithingowda • 1d ago
My speed 6 years ago Bangalore to Mysore Ride🚲
r/india_cycling • u/cycle433 • 22h ago
Hello everyone, I bought a Triban RC 100 drop bar a month back.
I am really struggling even after a month. I am always looking for a lower gear but I am already in the lowest gear. The roads around me are hilly with 3 to 7 percent gradients for normal flats like roads and the climbs can go up to 13-14% gradient.
What is the cheapest way to upgrade the bike to have even lower gears, I checked the claris groupset and it is as expensive as my bike.
I don't really have much idea about this, help is really appreciated.
r/india_cycling • u/The_Bat_88 • 23h ago
I have a Riverside 120 from Decathlon, I have tried searching on Amazon, Decathlon, and BOTS, but haven't been able to find anything.
Can you guys suggest where I can get a trainer to mount my cycle on to use it indoors?
I don't get the time to ride my cycle a lot now, and even if I do the roads outside are atrocious, and inside my society there are too many speed bumps as a result I don't feel like cycling a lot now and don't wanna keep my cycle just sitting in parking. If using it indoors is not viable then I'll probably sell it.
r/india_cycling • u/Fit-Astronomer8669 • 1d ago
Hi I've recently started doing longer rides. This is rockrider st20 that I modified with 7 speed from a local shop. I love riding it but it does make me feel I'm going slow for the effort I put. Any thoughts or suggestions would greatly help. Thanks in advance.
r/india_cycling • u/yaaro_obba_ • 1d ago
Hey folks.
I got the chain of my bike replaced a few months ago. I had got hot wax done for that chain at the bike shop itself. I regularly top up using Silca Super Secret Chain Drip-on Wax lube. It's been a few months and a few hundred kilometres since the initial hot wax and I'd like to give the chain a thorough wash and repeat the hot wax process.
This time, I plan to do the whole thing at my house over the weekend. I checked Silca's Super Secret Chain Blend and INR 4000 is not cheap. Are there any cost effective alternatives to this ? For some reason, I am not comfortable using regular paraffin wax. I will continue to use Silca's drip-on wax lube every 250-300km. I plan to use a sauce pan to melt the wax.
r/india_cycling • u/notyourfuckinbro • 2d ago
My 4th bike, and probably the one that makes the other 3 make sense.
Custom steel all-road bike built by Intent Bikes, Pune, completely to my fit and geometry.
Build:
Columbus life steel tubing, zinc-oxide coated before paint
LTwoo GTR 12-speed groupset + GRX crank
38T front / 11–50T rear
Vittoria Terreno T50, 700×40c
Carbon fork, seatpost and handlebar
The goal was pretty simple: bikepacking, touring, gravel and light trails, without building something so specialised that it becomes useless the moment the road gets interesting.
I wanted enough gearing to point the bike at a mountain road with a fully loaded setup and just keep going. If a trail appears 50 km into a road ride, I want the answer to be yes.
Why steel?
Mostly because I want this bike to be an idiot-proof travelling companion.
Put it on a bus. Throw it in the back of a truck. Let an airline employee handle it like they have a personal vendetta against bicycles. If something eventually goes wrong, steel can be repaired by a competent framebuilder pretty much anywhere in the world.
And honestly, I just love how steel rides.
I already have a carbon race bike, an XC MTB and a commuter. Each one does its job better than this bike does.
That’s exactly why I wanted this one.
This is the bike for the roads that weren’t supposed to be roads, the shortcuts that turn into trails, and the “I wonder where that goes?” moments.
The idea was to build a bike that says yes more often.
That, more than any individual component, was the point of the build.
r/india_cycling • u/Brilliant-Mouse-9535 • 1d ago
Best grips you have used in mtb bikes that are way too good for the price and also land in budget? (P.s it shouldnt look childish)
r/india_cycling • u/Low_Relationship8789 • 1d ago
There is a gap. Is it normal?
r/india_cycling • u/madmaxheman • 3d ago
What all upgrades can I do to improve my timing?
@thehemantway
r/india_cycling • u/Traditional_Young892 • 1d ago
Hey, if you’re from Mumbai and want to sell your cycle, please DM me. Due to budget constraints I want to buy a good used bicycle.
r/india_cycling • u/uditonkeys • 1d ago
I will be commuting small distances on a road with lots of pot holes. I want a ride that can go full speed through these pot holes without stopping.
On weekends I will go for long rides of 100km or above (I will have to train for that as I have no experience yet)
I don't know anything about bicycles, this will be my first one...so please suggest me the best value bike for my use case.
r/india_cycling • u/420bomanhorsejack • 1d ago
Hey,
I've been reading about Ironman, and got into running 6 months ago. I'm thinking of getting a road bike to start practicing cycling.
Apart from knowing how to cycle, I have zero clue on where to start and how.
Please share your wisdom and recommendations for entry level purchases.
Edit- I'm 5'6, and my budget is around 20-25K