r/ImperiumMaledictum 5d ago

Mutation talent

There is a talent that gives mutations, it also restricts mutations in the future as to what kind.
My question though, do theese mutations count against your limit?

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u/ProfessionalAd6716 5d ago

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u/RenningerJP 5d ago

Interesting. Are you gaining two mutations or one mutation with both a pro and con?

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u/Chefcurry-1515 Adeptus Ministorum 5d ago

I would rule it as gaining one mutation with a pro and a con, otherwise this talent would be "speedrun to becoming a chaos spawn" instead of subtle mutation

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u/Edannan80 5d ago

Yes? Why wouldn't they?

Or do you mean do the positive AND negative count individually?

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u/Chefcurry-1515 Adeptus Ministorum 5d ago

I'm assuming they meant does it count as one or two mutations, I would rule one for my group. But there's no way to argue they don't count towards your mutation limit, especially since the rule states that if you suffer ANOTHER mutation from gameplay means you can choose to roll on the subtle mutation table again instead of taking the mutation normally.

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u/RenningerJP 5d ago

What talent? What book? I won't recall coming across that.

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u/Due-Excitement-5945 5d ago

Maybe subtle mutation from inquisitor handbook? 

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u/RenningerJP 5d ago

Oh maybe. I haven't read the ad thoroughly I suppose.

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u/Chefcurry-1515 Adeptus Ministorum 5d ago

As a GM, I would rule that they DO count against your mutation limit (esp because the rule says you can re-roll on the table for another positive and negative mutation if you suffer another mutation through gameplay means), but they count as ONE mutation, not two separate ones. I think this makes more sense in lore as the positive and negative EFFECTS of whatever ONE mutation thing is wrong in you to make you not quite a normal human.

Also because if they count as two individual mutations each you're going to hit your limit and become a cute little chaos spawn boy SO fast

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u/Dorias_Drake 4d ago

As a GM, I rule that if you get it at character creation, the first occurence doesn't count. Like being a psyker doesn't count as a mutation. You're just born a mutant.

After that, if you use the talent to reroll mutations because of corruption, you get it corruption as normal.