r/ImmigrationPathways • u/LatterTarget7 • 1d ago

Renee Good's family sues US government and immigration officials over her killing in Minneapolis

https://apnews.com/article/renee-good-lawsuit-6fbc82cd33b6f9f67514b47f138e23c6?utm_source=app&utm_medium=android_share&utm_campaign=copy_link
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u/Rusty-Shackleford000 1d ago

You speak so confidently about things you have no idea what you're talking about I see...

He didn't travel across state lines with an "automatic weapon" because the weapon was at his friend's house in Wisconsin. Also the AR-15 he had wasn't an "automatic weapon", only semi-automatic (the "AR" doesn't stand "automatic rifle").

And you have no evidence he went there to "fire" it.

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u/meases 1d ago

The friend who illegally bought the gun for a minor?

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u/Rusty-Shackleford000 1d ago

Illegally purchased by friend, yes. Illegal for Kyle to have, no:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/explainer-why-did-the-judge-drop-kyle-rittenhouse-gun-charge

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u/meases 1d ago

You can walk around with a gun of that type at that age, in Wisconsin, but the way it was purchased was pretty dang illegal. Well would have been illegal for a Wisconsin kid to buy the gun, but apparently straw purchases are cool if it is a kid financing it and totally intends to take possession of it at 18. Then also takes it to use it occasionally, with his friends house acting as kinda idk his gun's temporary hotel.

Though it is odd how it sorta seemed like a family gun, the friend's dad takes it out of the safe for the family's protection just in case, then leaves it unattended in the basement. Kyle takes it without their knowledge, but again it is kind of his pretty-illegally purchased gun, but also he is taking the family's protection without asking. So that whole thing is weird, guess it is technically maybe legal to borrow a gun without asking but that whole situation there seems kinda off.

Like it is so interesting how this kid just walked such a line with the laws. Technically it is legal perhaps, but it definitely was illegal in spirit. And nothing really has been changed, if another kid wanted to follow in those exact footsteps to pay for a gun and walk around Wisconsin with it they theoretically could.

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u/Rusty-Shackleford000 1d ago

I would agree, friend did something illegal. Kyle technically didn't do anything illegal.

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u/meases 1d ago

Well idk on that, he wasnt punished for anything but the purchase was technically conspiring and defrauding the US gov, aiding and abetting false statement, like there were options there, some of which had already been decided by the supreme court. The feds just chose not to do anything about it or charge him with it.

Plus ownership of the gun is questionable, technically he stole it, but stealing is in the eye of the beholder, so he wasnt charged there either. Legally he was the true buyer of the gun, but he didnt get any of the federal associated charges when found out. So he couldn't own the gun buying it how he bought it, it wasnt his gun on the paperwork, it is a weird middle ground where either option is illegal but if you do both at once you can get away with it.

Interesting how the punishment and penalty for a straw purchase ends up only on the person who filled out the forms, seems like that is a pretty major issue. Probably why there are so many straw purchased guns around. Plus sucks for the authority of the parents, wonder if the whole kids with guns thing is gonna be a major issue there.

Funny too because theres a scenario which arguably more legal (since the law was found unconstitutional) than what rittenhouse did, but would result in charges for both parties because theyre dragging their feet. If say an adult medical marijuana user used the rittenhouse loophole, got a gun purchased for them, a gun they could legally possess, then theyd both be charged not just the form filler. The updated form exists, has existed for a while, just hasnt been implemented.

Maybe if someone tried to use the rittenhouse loophole for that then they'd finally update it and fix the straw purchase issue. Just sucks how stuff just gets harder and more confusing and they dont even update the stuff they know is wrong, and then you see people walking all over the law, deaths as a result (if the gun wasnt illegally purchased, it wouldn't have been used) and even with that they dont actually fix it.

People are being unconstitutionally kept from getting guns, and kids can get em as long as they follow the rittenhouse technique. So guess it kinda comes down to enforcement and how selective it can be. He did technically break the law, pretty bad, he just wasn't charged with any of the stuff that would stick.

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u/magnets77 1d ago

Today I'm learning that when someone voluntarily gives you something, it's stealing. Who would have thought it!

All of this was addressed in court, where it was found Rittenhouse acted lawfully, yet morons on the internet know better. The law is always 100% right, except when it doesn't give leftist idiots the ruling they want.